April in Paris Fine Arts Festival, April 16

Apr 5, 2011 Full story: North Texas e-News 46

Paris, Texas will have one thing in common on Saturday, April 16 with its European namesake-original art in a beautiful setting.

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NL Parent

Paris, TX

#1 Apr 8, 2011
Ok so is this "Fine Arts Festival" the reason I was told I can't take my daughter's pictures for prom in front of the fountain on the plaza on April 16th? Sorry, but in my opinion the Lamar Co Chamber of Commerce is really barking up the wrong trees here lately with their trips to Europe and now this. Seems ridiculous and bordering on FACISM.

“Illegitimi non carborundum”

Since: Apr 10

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#2 Apr 8, 2011
The Plaza Art Guild, the Lamar County Chamber of Commerce Convention and Visitors Council, and Paris Main Street are sponsoring this event. My guess is that it has been on the calendar for quite a while.

While I realize that it is upsetting you won't be able to take prom pictures in front of the fountain, it seems your yelling fascism is more of a temper tantrum because you can't have what you want. So what are you teaching your daughter; to throw a temper tantrum whenever you can't get your way. Yep she will go far in life with that attitude.
NL Parent

Paris, TX

#3 Apr 8, 2011
Dazzle Dat you're wrong about the assumptions you are making for what I am or am not teaching my daughter and to be quite honest it's none of your business how I parent my child or how far in life she will go with the attitudes and ideals I have instilled in her as her parent. That was pretty rude of you to say. No, for your information, I sucked it up and told her that, well, sweetie I guess we won't be able to take the pics in front of the fountain and it's ok we will find somewhere else. I never let on in any way that I was unhappy about it except for on here when I read the article and began to see the bigger picture. You see all I knew is she came home from school saying something about that they couldn't have pics done downtown and she was upset. Now I see what's going on. My husband and I played it all down like oh well we will just go and have the pics done by the Episcopal church or somewhere else and it's no big deal so that she would learn the lesson of respect for authority and such. What I can't understand is why on Earth anyone who is in favor of supporting this community would have banned the NL prom kids from having their pics made in front of one of the icons for the city of Paris in the first place! What, is the big art event going to be going on all day - even late into the afternoon? Really? Is THIS what the great thinkers of our county learned on their trip to France? I am entitled to my opinion and I think their decision to derail many high school kids prom photo memories and prom tradition is a poor one. The minute you tell people of this community how and when they can enjoy their own public plaza and fountain (within reason and limits of the law) I say you've gone too far. Wow. I just don't get it. Facism may have not been the right term for the whole misguided decision but ridiculous is.

“Illegitimi non carborundum”

Since: Apr 10

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#4 Apr 8, 2011
If it's none of my business then you shouldn't have put it on a PUBLIC forum because when you put your tirade up, you made it EVERYONE'S buisness.

This even was planned well in advance of the trip to France. As far as the hours Saturday, 9am - 6pm but set up begins at 5am.

If you have any more complaints perhaps directing to the CoC or The Plaza Art Guild.
NL Parent

Paris, TX

#5 Apr 8, 2011
Sorry DazzleDat, but I can put what ever I want on a PUBLIC forum and what YOU made your business and the beef I now have with you is your RUDE assumptions on how I am rearing my daughter or any alleged temper tantrums that may have been had over the matter. I have NO idea when the decision to have this Fine Art event was made but I know the date for NL's Prom has been on the books for a long time as well. Gee, now that I think about it, you sure seem to be in the know about it all. Makes me wonder if you are on the Chamber of Commerce or MainStreet or Visitors bureau or Plaza Art Guild? It would sure explain why you are so defensive and unwilling to hear any criticism on the subject. In my opinion this was a poor decision and that I think Chamber of Commerce and the others involved need a reality check. I support the Paris Art Guild, Chamber of Commerce, Mainstreet Development, and anyone else trying to do positive things for the community. What I'm against is poor public relations and big heads throwing their weight around. Had this been on any other day or handled differently it's very likely that I would have attended the event and purchased some items WHILE up on the square taking my daughter's pictures.
Anonymous

Paris, TX

#6 Apr 8, 2011
Kudos NL Parent and very well said! As a NL parent myself, I feel the same way. The city should be proud the kids want to have their pictures taking downtown and encourage them to make great memories of their hometown. After all that's what Paris will be, a memory. I am a transplant here in paris but, we have lived here for the intirety of our childs education. I remember all the years of the prom kids going to take pictures downtown and have even just gone to watch the process as our child was not quiet old enough for prom. Those days made wonderful memories for us just as spectators. Now that it is finally our turn to be the ones taking the pictures we hear we are not allowed to follow in the footsteps of the many? Tradition. I still try to teach my children the simple pleasures in tradition. My question is, would Paris like to help instill tradition on our children before they go off to college? Wouldn't Paris like for the young adults to return after college and raise their children here? Right now it seems as if they have forgotten about all the things that made Paris a great town to grow up in. We will be downtown taking pictures for prom and hope that the fine people of Paris will not interfere with the memories of our child first prom.

“Illegitimi non carborundum”

Since: Apr 10

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#7 Apr 8, 2011
You can put whatever you want on a public forum, but it's really stupid to complain about people getting into your business when their responses don't favor your ideology. After all, again, it's a public forum. Expect that not 100% of the people are going to agree with you.

I'm in the know because I've seen brochures and there's this little thing called google. It's amazing about what you can find out if you use it searching with the correct key words. You probably passed by some of the flowered posters and brochures that have been around for several weeks and totally ignored them.
NL Parent

Paris, TX

#8 Apr 8, 2011
DazzleDat I notice you're still avoiding to discuss the art festival planners asking the kids to not have photos made in front of the fountain. Topix is all about discussion and debate and I have no problem with that. Do you have an opinion about the Art Festival asking kids not to have prom pics made at the fountain or are you just browsing around hoping to pick a fight? You won't bring me down to your RUDE level. Fact is you can bet I'm not the only NL parent who is unhappy about this. The decision makers could have handled this issue so much more positively. PR FAIL.

“Illegitimi non carborundum”

Since: Apr 10

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#9 Apr 8, 2011
Honestly parent - I wouldn't have been on Topix bitching about it. Instead I would have marched my daughter up there after 6pm and took the picture.
wilma fingerdoo

Clarksville, TX

#10 Apr 8, 2011
you are frickin brilliant are't ya? you've got all the answers as usual. anybody with no life and over 2300 posts must know it all. seriously though, isn't that what topix is for? discussing, gossiping, bullying, and bitching behind the clever guise of screen names and hidden locations? seems to me like the dazzledork is doing everything but discussing the real topic of this thread. no surprise there. frickin brilliant as usual.
I think the kids should go take their pictures in front of the plaza fountain on prom day at whatever time they want. it's a public place. what are they gonna do about it?
geez

Paris, TX

#11 Apr 8, 2011
I would just keep in mind that there will be trash, people, tents, among other things everywhere. Go take the pictures if you want, but they may not turn out too pretty because of all the chaos of tearing down and cleaning up! I've seen many pics taken at that church and they all turn out beautiful! Best of luck to you!!
artsy

Clarksville, TX

#12 Apr 9, 2011
my bet is the big fine arts show will be deserted by 3 or 4 anyway. bring the kids on and don't worry about the killjoy goobers who said to stay away.
You sure

Paris, TX

#13 Apr 9, 2011
I think park are reserved on a first come first served basis. If someone was going to have a wedding by the fountain they should reserve it. If a photographer wants to use a park for a shoot, they should reserve it. If by chance someone beats another to making a reservation why would that be any thing other than luck of the draw? How would planners of the art show have known that the NL prom is priority and should have unabated reign over any location that someone might wNt to use for pictures. To me the whole thought that this is in anyway bad planning is a joke. What is on the community calendar related to the prom? I bet the only reference is the location of the event itself. How could those not having kids involved have any idea that some might want to have pictures made at any location other than the location of the prom itself. This is a classic can't see the forest for the trees situation. Parents step back and look at this as just an average person and I think you will see that this is simply bad luck that prom is the same day as another event and there may be some inconvenience because of it.
here ya go

Paris, TX

#14 Apr 9, 2011
I think Culbertson fountain is on city property, which means that it's public. No one can tell you that you CANNOT take pictures there because it's owned by the citizens of Paris. You can't rent this space, so it's first come, first served. If they're there first, then you can't make them move. However, they can't tell you that you can't be there! I would try and go to take the pictures. If it's too messed up for good pictures, then pick somewhere else to go. Good luck!
cash

Clarksville, TX

#15 Apr 10, 2011
her daughters fat
gladimnotNLparen t

Arlington, TX

#16 Apr 11, 2011
It serves you right that you can't take pictures at the fountain. That's so cliche and lacks creativity that the planners of this art festival are doing you a favor. Think out of the box of what you've always seen done.
Perspective

Grapevine, TX

#17 Apr 11, 2011
Last year's Art Fair was a farce. An artist with work in a New York City gallery commented on how it was all crafts with very little REAL ART. Have you (the original poster who started this thread) considered having your daughter and her date dress up in prom clothes a day or two earlier (before tha arts festival) and stand in front of the fountain and have pictures made? Or what about making them the day after the festival is over. Other options: the paristyle in Bywaters Park. It's very majectic looking and would make a good background for prom pictures.
to Perspective and Glad

Paris, TX

#18 Apr 11, 2011
hey perspective...you proposed a good idea, but I know you must not live here in Paris (also see your IP is in Ft Worth, even though that might not mean anything) or you would know that Bywaters Peristyle has been deconstructed while they are repairing the foundation and fixing the cracks in the columns. Another reason the 'art' event planners telling the kids not to come to the public fountain at the town plaza was a kick in the pants. Oh and also to Perspective: dress your kids up a day or two early? what about having girls' hair done and makeup done? and boys renting tuxes? nope. that really isn't feasible, but good try. Thanks for your ideas!
GladimnotNLParen t: ha ha ha "serves you right?" now that's a mature response. People don't appreciate anyone telling them when and where they can go in their own town to take pictures. yes there probably are other places to go to have prom pictures made but it's the principality of the matter, you jerk. Yes, Paris city parks pavilions can be reserved for parties etc but I wasn't aware that the TOWN PLAZA and FOUNTAIN fell into that reservable category. I might just call public works and check on that.
Good luck to the fine arts event. I hope it does well - if it does at least it would maybe come close to justifying these bad public relations decisions.

“There will be an answer.”

Since: Mar 09

North Berwick

#19 Apr 11, 2011
Perspective wrote:
Last year's Art Fair was a farce. An artist with work in a New York City gallery commented on how it was all crafts with very little REAL ART. Have you (the original poster who started this thread) considered having your daughter and her date dress up in prom clothes a day or two earlier (before tha arts festival) and stand in front of the fountain and have pictures made? Or what about making them the day after the festival is over. Other options: the paristyle in Bywaters Park. It's very majectic looking and would make a good background for prom pictures.
Art is subjective. The fact a person has work displayed in a gallery (anywhere) does not give credence to their perspective over any other. It is a both condescending and ironically, ignorant to pass judgment on a very subjective concept.(the two certainly aren't mutually exclusive). Can you define REAL ART as opposed to imitation art? Just like the deaf man criticizing the opera...
Perspective

Grapevine, TX

#20 Apr 11, 2011
BenNevis wrote:
<quoted text>Art is subjective. The fact a person has work displayed in a gallery (anywhere) does not give credence to their perspective over any other. It is a both condescending and ironically, ignorant to pass judgment on a very subjective concept.(the two certainly aren't mutually exclusive). Can you define REAL ART as opposed to imitation art? Just like the deaf man criticizing the opera...
Okay, the distinction would be like this: the difference between two dozen ladies going to Hobby Lobby and getting a bunch of flowery crafty type kits and making a bunch of things that all look alike vs. original, one-of-a-kind paintings (REAL art). There seemed to be a lot of the first category out there last year and very little of the second.

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