Inmate Graduates: Why give free colle...

Inmate Graduates: Why give free college tuition in prison? Start with savings to taxpayers

There are 12 comments on the The Post-Standard story from Jun 17, 2012, titled Inmate Graduates: Why give free college tuition in prison? Start with savings to taxpayers. In it, The Post-Standard reports that:

APPLAUDING graduates of the Cornell Prison Education Program at Auburn Correctional Facility are Superintendent Harold Graham, state corrections Commissioner Brian Fischer and philanthropist Doris Buffett, whose foundation underwrites the program.

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Ohio Wrangler

Kent, OH

#1 Jun 17, 2012
It is wonderful that Ms. Buffett understands that inmates getting college degrees is not a perk, but a way to help cut down on recidivism. Inmates have a record which is the first strike on them since the public doesn't seem to think they have paid for their crime and deserve a second chance. The second strike is when they can't find a job to support themselves, so they return to crime usually. This is a truth that our presidents, congress, and state legislators do not understand. Their cuts to prison education/vocational needs is a large part of why prison is a revolving door for so many. They, therefore, contribute largely to the problem.

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#2 Jun 18, 2012
i dont believe that they should be getting basically a free ride. it isnt ne different then being on welfare.....i am paying for that prisoner to get his education whie i am struggling to pay my rent...really....
Ohio Wrangler

Kent, OH

#3 Jun 18, 2012
If they don't get education to be able to find work, you will be paying 25,000 a year to keep them in prison. I would prefer to pay for their being educated to find work and stay out of prison, than pay for them to be in prison over and over for their whole lives. Either way,we are paying. This is what so many people just don't seem to understand.

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#4 Jun 20, 2012
i understand that... it just pisses me off that i can barely pay my own bills...and yet im expected to pay for somebody who broke the law to get an education....mayb i should sell drugs just so i can have a place to live....i just dont get it...
Eisha

Milwaukee, WI

#5 Jul 30, 2012
SOOOO let me get this straight, I bust my ass to do good in collage so that financial aide will give me grants, and i'm almost 30,000 dollars in debt to Sallie Mae due to student loans, and prisoners are getting FREE COLLAGE EDUCATIION?? How the hell does that work? So you mean to tell me that I will be competing with former inmates for jobs because my tax dollars paid for them to go to school while I struggled financially through collage and will be forever indebted to the government because of student loans?? BULLSHIT

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#6 Jul 30, 2012
Eisha wrote:
SOOOO let me get this straight, I bust my ass to do good in collage so that financial aide will give me grants, and i'm almost 30,000 dollars in debt to Sallie Mae due to student loans, and prisoners are getting FREE COLLAGE EDUCATIION?? How the hell does that work? So you mean to tell me that I will be competing with former inmates for jobs because my tax dollars paid for them to go to school while I struggled financially through collage and will be forever indebted to the government because of student loans?? BULLSHIT
i didnt go to collage but that was my point exactly.
Find Jesus

Columbus, IN

#7 Apr 10, 2013
If you read up on the college programs for prisoners, WE (taxpayers) are NOT paying for this! Ms. Buffet is a billionaire and through her and her brothers funding, they make this possible. The instructors are also volunteers. Read up on the facts before you start complaining. I would much rather pay for inmates to attempt to better their lives with education than to continue to raise families that have little to desire to get out of bed, let alone go to work. Some are just so clueless! I bust my ass too but I'm all for this program and NOT everyone qualifies. Wow!
rbinder

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Jul 30, 2013
shianne628 wrote:
i understand that... it just pisses me off that i can barely pay my own bills...and yet im expected to pay for somebody who broke the law to get an education....mayb i should sell drugs just so i can have a place to live....i just dont get it...
Sounds like personal problem!
All for it

Victor, NY

#10 Apr 20, 2014
I am behind Doris Buffett I agree that all state inmates should have the opportunity to get a college degree. Not every inmate will participate but many will and the ones that do truly are trying to better themselves so that when they come back to society (the real world) they get a second chance at life and can contribute to society. As of right now all the money is funded by donations and volunteers. I think it's great that there are people who believe in those who are incarcerated and believe that providing them schooling can and will help them especially for those who are ready to change their lives and contribute to society in a good way and for those who have a family can provide for them . I am 100% for inmates to earn a college degree while incarcerated.
shianne628

United States

#11 Apr 21, 2015
rbinder wrote:
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Sounds like personal problem!
It most certainly is a personal problem of which I'm not asking for your help...screw u for trying to put me down....
hiz queen

Middletown, NY

#12 Jun 10, 2015
First thing first.... people need to get a better understanding of the prison system. Its not tax dollars paying for a inmates education. Prisons bring in 60% of revenue. Crime, prison sentences & Inmates are ALLL BONDED. Performance bonds bid bonds miller act bonds. The prison system supports its self AND majority of the U.S. Government..FACTS ! Crime is money in a world of commerce. THOSE BONDS are brought & sold through out the world.. think im crazy ?? Google those bonds and you will soon have a much greater understanding that SLAVERY IS STILL VERY MUCH PRESENT IN THIS COUNTRY.. all this government did was hide the truth in plain sight..
Cracker one percent

Binghamton, NY

#14 Jun 2, 2017
hiz queen wrote:
First thing first.... people need to get a better understanding of the prison system. Its not tax dollars paying for a inmates education. Prisons bring in 60% of revenue. Crime, prison sentences & Inmates are ALLL BONDED. Performance bonds bid bonds miller act bonds. The prison system supports its self AND majority of the U.S. Government..FACTS ! Crime is money in a world of commerce. THOSE BONDS are brought & sold through out the world.. think im crazy ?? Google those bonds and you will soon have a much greater understanding that SLAVERY IS STILL VERY MUCH PRESENT IN THIS COUNTRY.. all this government did was hide the truth in plain sight..
Okay Ghetto Queen, thank you for enlightening those of us who are scarcely learned in the fields of penology, politics and finance.

Allow me to educate you. "Bid bonds" are nothing more than a bond guaranteeing that company X has the financial resources to finance a given government entity public bid project. As by but not limited to example, for John Doe Construction Company to be eligible to submit a sealed bid for the construction of a new prison, its bid must be accompanied by a bid bond, generally equal to 10% of its total bid. And a "performance bond" is simply an insurance policy guaranteeing the government entity that it will provide industry standard quality or better material and labor for that prison construction project, and further assuring the work will be completed by a date certain. For your further edification on bonding, please peruse https://www.gsa.gov/portal/getMediaData... . And please pay attention.

Contrary to your thoughts, the prison system is not self supporting. Indeed a large percentage of the money needed to build and operate prisons is a cost borne by those of us who actually work for a living; those of us who refrain from nursing off the government bosom through welfare, food stamps, WIC and other public subsidies.

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