Arrested Chinese graduate student say...

Arrested Chinese graduate student says: 'I'm no terrorist'

There are 40 comments on the People's Daily Online story from May 25, 2010, titled Arrested Chinese graduate student says: 'I'm no terrorist'. In it, People's Daily Online reports that:

Zhai Tiantian's mother, Wang Xiaojun, sheds tears while she looks at a photo of her son on Saturday at her home in Xi'an, Shaanxi province.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at People's Daily Online.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
Centrist

Los Angeles, CA

#2 May 26, 2010
Foreigners in China have to obey the laws of China but Chinese in foreign countries do not have to obey the laws abroad?

Freedom of speech is not universal. Uttering threats is a crime. It is also against the law in China, so suck it up, buttercup.

Since: Mar 08

United States

#3 May 26, 2010
Hehe, when you are making threats in the US you are a terrorist, no problem with that. But when you are making threats in China, you are a dissident according to the western media.

“Ngali”

Since: Jun 08

Perth

#4 May 26, 2010
Even threatening someone is, technically, assault and a criminal offence. In Australia at least, I'm not sure about America.

The police allege he was attempting to set fire to the campus. If true, then I'd guess that would be the basis for arresting him.

Interestingly it's not being reported on at all in the western press. Apparently it's nothing too special.

Since: Mar 08

United States

#5 May 26, 2010
ngali wrote:
Even threatening someone is, technically, assault and a criminal offence. In Australia at least, I'm not sure about America.
The police allege he was attempting to set fire to the campus. If true, then I'd guess that would be the basis for arresting him.
Interestingly it's not being reported on at all in the western press. Apparently it's nothing too special.
You'll get a restraining order for verbal assault. Attempted arson will be more serious, but whether it is just a threat or actual attempt the report did not say. Terrorist charge is bogus however, won't stick if the he has a good lawyer, which is where the Chinese consulate can help.

“Ngali”

Since: Jun 08

Perth

#6 May 26, 2010
Zsari wrote:
<quoted text>
You'll get a restraining order for verbal assault. Attempted arson will be more serious, but whether it is just a threat or actual attempt the report did not say. Terrorist charge is bogus however, won't stick if the he has a good lawyer, which is where the Chinese consulate can help.
The lack of ANY reports in the west makes me think no-one there actually believes he's a terrorist. Perhaps the professor said something along those lines, but there's nothing to suggest he is, or that any authorities involved are taking that seriously.

It comes off like just a run-of-the-mill dispute, or crime of passion. Nothing special.
Chinese Brother

Guangzhou, China

#7 May 26, 2010
Another U.S over reacting case!!! LOL, these morons shutdown a whole airport cuz a Chinese guy kissed his girl good bye. LOL the Muslims really scared the crap out of them, mere words strike fear into their hearts!!!!!

They are like frighten little chickens, seriously a nerdy Chinese guy being a terrorist? ofcourse the white hypocrites are defending their holy motherland, if this happened in China they would be demanding stuff like: "human rights" "freedom of speech" "democracy" "Chinese women's underwear".

Thats why they have no credibility among the younger better educated population of China.
the examiner

Montréal, Canada

#8 May 26, 2010
Can any one access the article? looks like it has been blanked out on purpose.

Since: Mar 08

Long Island City, NY

#9 May 26, 2010
Try this http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2010-05/25/...

The link is broken, looks like a script error.
RayH

Guangzhou, China

#10 May 26, 2010
Freedom of speech or human rights issue?
the examiner

Montréal, Canada

#11 May 26, 2010
Zsari wrote:
Try this http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2010-05/25/...
The link is broken, looks like a script error.
thanks
RayH

Guangzhou, China

#12 May 26, 2010
ngali wrote:
<quoted text>
The lack of ANY reports in the west makes me think no-one there actually believes he's a terrorist. Perhaps the professor said something along those lines, but there's nothing to suggest he is, or that any authorities involved are taking that seriously.
It comes off like just a run-of-the-mill dispute, or crime of passion. Nothing special.
The abuse of human rights or freedom of speech of Chinese people in Western countries just isn't reported in your Western "free press." You should know that.
the examiner

Montréal, Canada

#13 May 26, 2010
A 12-year-old Queens girl was hauled out of school in handcuffs for an artless offense - doodling her name on her desk in erasable marker, the Daily News has learned.

Alexa Gonzalez was scribbling a few words on her desk Monday while waiting for her Spanish teacher to pass out homework at Junior High School 190 in Forest Hills, she said.

"I love my friends Abby and Faith," the girl wrote, adding the phrases "Lex was here. 2/1/10" and a smiley face.

But instead of simply cleaning off the doodles after class, Alexa landed in some adult-sized trouble for using her lime-green magic marker.

She was led out of school in cuffs and walked to the precinct across the street, where she was detained for several hours, she and her mother said.

"I started crying, like, a lot," said Alexa. "I made two little doodles.... It could be easily erased. To put handcuffs on me is unnecessary." Alexa, who had a stellar attendance record, hasn't been back to school since, adding, "I just thought I'd get a detention. I thought maybe I would have to clean the desk

Read more:
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/education...

“RayHole is a liar!”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#14 May 26, 2010
RayH wrote:
<quoted text>
The abuse of human rights or freedom of speech of Chinese people in Western countries just isn't reported in your Western "free press." You should know that.
Seems you know sod all RayHole.
straight shooter

Janesville, WI

#15 May 26, 2010
RayH wrote:
Freedom of speech or human rights issue?
Sadly, you don't have any of those over there.
the examiner

Montréal, Canada

#16 May 26, 2010
Hmmm..
In the US sometimes people just over react. A 12 year old girl got handcuffed and taken to the police station just because she scribbled a message to her friend on the table.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8602327.s...

“RayHole is a liar!”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#17 May 26, 2010
the examiner wrote:
Hmmm..
In the US sometimes people just over react. A 12 year old girl got handcuffed and taken to the police station just because she scribbled a message to her friend on the table.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8602327.s...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =s6Abb6WCqvUXX
Yeh you'r right, Police obuse their power everywhere. The ammount of suspicious deaths of police prisoners here in China has hit the 2000 mark already this year in China.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2010-03/...
Peace

Guangzhou, China

#18 May 26, 2010
American are twitchy little f*ckers, like a cockroach. Locking up a nerdy Chinese guy? come on! lol

Since: Mar 08

Laguna Hills, CA

#20 May 26, 2010
ShoeProtestor wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeh you'r right, Police obuse their power everywhere. The ammount of suspicious deaths of police prisoners here in China has hit the 2000 mark already this year in China.
I see you are making progress. Instead of blaming CCP for everything, you now do realize that police everywhere abuse their power. Good for you.

“Ngali”

Since: Jun 08

Perth

#22 May 26, 2010
Zsari wrote:
Hehe, when you are making threats in the US you are a terrorist, no problem with that. But when you are making threats in China, you are a dissident according to the western media.
No-one's saying he's a terrorist except the Chinese press.

His CRIMINAL charge, apparently, is "making a terroristic threat".

Here's the relevant law for New Jersey

2C:12-3. Terroristic threats

a. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens to commit any crime of violence with the purpose to terrorize another or to cause evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation, or otherwise to cause serious public inconvenience, or in reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. A violation of this subsection is a crime of the second degree if it occurs during a declared period of national, State or county emergency. The actor shall be strictly liable upon proof that the crime occurred, in fact, during a declared period of national, State or county emergency. It shall not be a defense that the actor did not know that there was a declared period of emergency at the time the crime occurred.

b. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens to kill another with the purpose to put him in imminent fear of death under circumstances reasonably causing the victim to believe the immediacy of the threat and the likelihood that it will be carried out.

It applies in domestic violence cases, extortion, intimidation etc. It's a criminal charge - and it DOES NOT mean that Zhai is considered a "terrorist".

If guilty he's just a run-of-the-mill criminal. Nothing more.

Since: Mar 08

Laguna Hills, CA

#23 May 26, 2010
ngali wrote:
<quoted text>
No-one's saying he's a terrorist except the Chinese press.
His CRIMINAL charge, apparently, is "making a terroristic threat".
Oh well, he still won't have the "honor" to be called a dissident. So stingy, lol.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Stevens Institute of Technology Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Jesus Arrested as Illegal Immigrant in New Poli... Jun '17 Valerie 22
News Happy 100th, Frank! Hoboken going all out for S... (Jun '15) Jun '15 chadmasd 1
News Education reform and the corrosion of community... (Mar '14) Mar '14 Bob 2
News Underwater destiny for many N.J. towns? (Nov '13) Nov '13 David Mitchell 1
News Stony Brook in top 100 of U.S. News' annual ran... (Sep '13) Sep '13 oh Please 1
Ace Hardware store seeks associate (HOBOKEN, NJ) (Aug '13) Aug '13 City Paint 1
Seeking The Brightest and best (Dec '12) Dec '12 Gamer Points Stor... 1
More from around the web