Study questions how much better organ...

Study questions how much better organic food is

There are 11 comments on the Ledger-Enquirer.com story from Sep 3, 2012, titled Study questions how much better organic food is. In it, Ledger-Enquirer.com reports that:

This March 16, 2011, file photo shows organic radishes at the Pacifica Farmers Market in Pacifica, Calif.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#1 Sep 4, 2012
"Organic food" is a scam. Not because it's worse than other foods, but because the trade offs balance out but you pay a lot more for it and there should be no reason. Then there's also the fact that it's not regulated, so you still have to do research into what you're buying from if you want to know exactly what you're getting, and US folks don't like doing research into anything. So what is labeled as "organic" may have just as much pesticides and chemicals as what isn't. But meh, far be it for me to infringe on a good marketing ploy.

Since: Feb 10

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#2 Sep 4, 2012
The latest study to demonize foods free of GMO ingredients and mercury-containing high-fructose corn syrup ultimately once again fails to accurately address key aspects of the conventional verses organic debate and even falls short of properly addressing the limited scope of concerns it does attempt to analyze. You can see even from the comments on many of the mainstream reports that readers quickly saw through the eroneous ‘organic is the same as conventional’ headlines and began highlighting the many inaccuracies of the research.


As I outline in the video, the study completely fails to account for key factors such as the presence of GMOs, artificial sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose, mercury (such as that admittedly contained in high-fructose corn syrup), BPA, and much more. It also does not even properly address the two topics it seeks to address concerning the presence antibiotics and chemical residue. The researchers fail first of all to reveal the difference between the organic food and conventional food pesticides, and then go on to state that organic food actually does have lower pesticide levels.

They then state that it doesn’t matter that conventional foods have higher pesticide, herbicide, and insecticide levels because they don’t ‘exceed legal limits’. They then fail to mention that Roundup, Monsanto’s best-selling herbicide, has been linked to DNA damage, infertility, and over 29 other associated diseases. Yet they insist that there is no real difference. That is not even taking into consideration the thousands of other studies on pesticides and insecticides, such as the 3 pieces of mainstream peer-reviewed research linking pesticide exposure to lower IQ.

Apparently these factors don’t matter to the Stanford researchers, who utterly ignored them as they compiled their analysis that actually contradicts itself over and over again.

The report also admittedly states that organic foods have a drastically lower percentage chance of containing antibiotic-resistant bacteria, the kind that produces mutant superbugs that cannot be treated with antibiotics. The very same kind that have evaded all antibiotics and ‘super drugs’ and are virtually untreatable by mainstream medicine. A new strain of resistant tuberculosis known as the ‘white plague‘ has even started to spread that is the result of rampant antibiotic use across the globe.

Conventional farm animals are dosed up with these antibiotics to prevent them from dying as a result of the serious illnesses they come down with. The animals are stricken from both eating a poor diet often full of genetically modified grain as well as sitting stationary in a claustrophobic area for years. Around 30% of cows in the United States are also injected with Monsanto’s genetically modified synthetic hormone known as rBGH, which is banned in 27 countries worldwide. Apparently the fact that the genetically engineered rBGH uses molecules and DNA sequences

Industiral Factory Farm Food from improper agricultural techniques leaches the soil of the 50 plus trace chemicals (minerals). They don't show up in your conventional head of lettece of bunch of carrots.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#3 Sep 4, 2012
Wait, so cows, chickens, corn, and bananas are all naturally bad for us?
StellarKnight wrote:
The latest study to demonize foods free of GMO ingredients and mercury-containing high-fructose corn syrup ultimately once again fails to accurately address key aspects of the conventional verses organic debate and even falls short of properly addressing the limited scope of concerns it does attempt to analyze. You can see even from the comments on many of the mainstream reports that readers quickly saw through the eroneous ‘organic is the same as conventional’ headlines and began highlighting the many inaccuracies of the research.
As I outline in the video, the study completely fails to account for key factors such as the presence of GMOs, artificial sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose, mercury (such as that admittedly contained in high-fructose corn syrup), BPA, and much more. It also does not even properly address the two topics it seeks to address concerning the presence antibiotics and chemical residue. The researchers fail first of all to reveal the difference between the organic food and conventional food pesticides, and then go on to state that organic food actually does have lower pesticide levels.
They then state that it doesn’t matter that conventional foods have higher pesticide, herbicide, and insecticide levels because they don’t ‘exceed legal limits’. They then fail to mention that Roundup, Monsanto’s best-selling herbicide, has been linked to DNA damage, infertility, and over 29 other associated diseases. Yet they insist that there is no real difference. That is not even taking into consideration the thousands of other studies on pesticides and insecticides, such as the 3 pieces of mainstream peer-reviewed research linking pesticide exposure to lower IQ.
Apparently these factors don’t matter to the Stanford researchers, who utterly ignored them as they compiled their analysis that actually contradicts itself over and over again.
The report also admittedly states that organic foods have a drastically lower percentage chance of containing antibiotic-resistant bacteria, the kind that produces mutant superbugs that cannot be treated with antibiotics. The very same kind that have evaded all antibiotics and ‘super drugs’ and are virtually untreatable by mainstream medicine. A new strain of resistant tuberculosis known as the ‘white plague‘ has even started to spread that is the result of rampant antibiotic use across the globe.
Conventional farm animals are dosed up with these antibiotics to prevent them from dying as a result of the serious illnesses they come down with. The animals are stricken from both eating a poor diet often full of genetically modified grain as well as sitting stationary in a claustrophobic area for years. Around 30% of cows in the United States are also injected with Monsanto’s genetically modified synthetic hormone known as rBGH, which is banned in 27 countries worldwide. Apparently the fact that the genetically engineered rBGH uses molecules and DNA sequences
Industiral Factory Farm Food from improper agricultural techniques leaches the soil of the 50 plus trace chemicals (minerals). They don't show up in your conventional head of lettece of bunch of carrots.

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#4 Sep 4, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
Wait, so cows, chickens, corn, and bananas are all naturally bad for us?
<quoted text>
BGH hormone enhanced Cows...Cows being fed Chicken droppings with Chicken feathers ( Mad Cow) steroid enhanced and genetically manipulated 7 lb Purdue Chickens and the 1 bannana offered Americans of the 45 varieties due to its having been gentically patented...are FAR from natural.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#5 Sep 4, 2012
StellarKnight wrote:
<quoted text>
BGH hormone enhanced Cows...Cows being fed Chicken droppings with Chicken feathers ( Mad Cow) steroid enhanced and genetically manipulated 7 lb Purdue Chickens and the 1 bannana offered Americans of the 45 varieties due to its having been gentically patented...are FAR from natural.
First, almost all of our food is genetically modified and has been for centuries, we have just perfected the process with scientific understanding and gave it a more comprehensive name. Secondly, the banana's original species was almost inedible, all bananas you see today are genetically modified through breeding and human selection steering the evolutionary path, that is primitive genetic modification is. Third, there is no evidence that any of the chemicals permitted by the FDA are any danger to humans, and much of what you are asserting is not permitted by the FDA nor any other laws in the US. We can't even purchase food that breaks these laws and have it shipped into the US. Things do slip by, yes, but that's the exception not the rule.

Finally, there is no such thing as normal in living organisms, it is impossible for a living thing to be measured as "normal" in any respect, we are all mutations, each human has over a hundred mutations in the genes, that's what makes us so different from our parents.

Since: Feb 10

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#6 Sep 4, 2012
First second third finally your done.

'human selection steering THE evolutionary path?"

Poppycock.
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Sep 4, 2012
Pesticides taste so good. Organic labels are regulated and this study showed that organic had much lower levels of pesticides and growth hormones.
KittenKoder wrote:
"Organic food" is a scam. Not because it's worse than other foods, but because the trade offs balance out but you pay a lot more for it and there should be no reason. Then there's also the fact that it's not regulated, so you still have to do research into what you're buying from if you want to know exactly what you're getting, and US folks don't like doing research into anything. So what is labeled as "organic" may have just as much pesticides and chemicals as what isn't. But meh, far be it for me to infringe on a good marketing ploy.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9 Sep 5, 2012
davy wrote:
Pesticides taste so good. Organic labels are regulated and this study showed that organic had much lower levels of pesticides and growth hormones.
<quoted text>
Not regulated in the sense that you are likely thinking. They are regulated the same as all other food products, there is no requirement for the label of organic.
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Sep 5, 2012
Wrong
http://fnic.nal.usda.gov/food-labeling/organi...
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Not regulated in the sense that you are likely thinking. They are regulated the same as all other food products, there is no requirement for the label of organic.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11 Sep 5, 2012
davy wrote:
I see nothing about the specific rules for organic foods in there, did you?
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Sep 5, 2012
Any agricultural product that is sold, labeled, or represented as “100 percent organic,”“organic,” or “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s))” must be:

(a) Produced in accordance with the requirements specified in §205.101 or §§205.202 through 205.207 or §§205.236 through 205.240 and all other applicable requirements of part 205; and

(b) Handled in accordance with the requirements specified in §205.101 or §§205.270 through 205.272 and all other applicable requirements of this part 205.

[65 FR 80637, Dec. 21, 2000, as amended at 75 FR 7193, Feb. 17, 2010]

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