Knox football standouts linked to burglary ring

Sep 25, 2008 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Post Tribune

Four high school students -- including two standout football players -- have been arrested and charged in connection to a burglary ring.

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it is about time that these guys were arrested now maybe we the people can now feel safe in our own homes.
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I know what they did wasn't right. But I believe the punishment is a bit harsh, and the TRUE story isn't known by many/
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the prosecutor in starke county needs to ask for the severest possible punishment and sentence on these juveniles. they have terrorized businesses in this county all summer. employees were frightened, employers were running the risk of being dropped by their insurance companies, thereby, losing their businesses. many thousands of dollars in cash, and many thousands in damages have resulted.
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Ok, they were wrong and should be punish.Now let go after all the drugs addicts and dealers.
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student wrote:
I know what they did wasn't right. But I believe the punishment is a bit harsh, and the TRUE story isn't known by many/

Tell us the TRUE story. If that would have been anybody else who was not football players, they would have the book thrown at them. The true story is 2 of the boys had college scolarships. Why throw that away? How many people you know have college scolarships?
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I believe what they did was wrong and should be punished as adults.
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they need to be held accountable for their actions. It use to be different. you use to have to account for your actions, nowadays if your on the football team, or a cheerleader (yeah, i know a cheerleader who got pulled over and had been drinking and the cops gave her a ride home-for turning in her fiends still at the party)...drunk driver is still a drunk driver and to be under age and get a slap on the hand??? these boys need to be tried as adults...afterall isnt being treated like an adult what they wanted when they got a drivers license? or when they engage in sex? why should this offense be any different? BTW---there are more arrests on the horizon.....they chose to mark their records....fletchers had a vehicle set on fire also...they didnt take someone bike and throw it along the road...they committed adult crimes and had the ability to know the difference between right and wrong. everything we do is by choice...they made choices to do the things they are charged with. now let them learn.
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what they did was wrong, yes they know. but whomever thinks they should be charged as adults is outrageous! they're paying for their mistake now by going to Muncie & going through everything now. everyone should stop being judgemental because i bet EVERY SINGLE PERSON writing has gotten into some sort of trouble & has been givin' a second chance! personally, they deserve a second chance. and DONT assume things, if you dont know them or the real story dont comment on things you dont know
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They need to spend about 20 yrs in prison. Have you seen the damage they did? I hope they rot in jail for a long long time.
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You must be a very miserable person Shirlee! Have you and a few others on here realized that these are ONLY ALLEGATIONS??? INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY!!! There has been NO POSITIVE IDENTIFICATIONS ON ANY OF THESE BOYS!!! These boys deserve the right to privacy! They ARE juveniles! Everyone should take a look at their OWN past and realize that we were all kids once, even if we didn't commit burlary, no adult has been perfect but we all had the chance to learn from our mistakes...these boys deserve that also!
What kind of "sick" people would want to see these boys' futures taken away from them by being served a harsh sentence only to be added to another crowded jail cell and become another convict with nothing else to lose over something they MIGHT have done when they were kids!
What kind of "sick" people would want to smear their names BEFORE it has been PROVEN that ANY and/or ALL did ANY of this?
SOCIETY is supposed to DEFEND/PROTECT our youth EVEN WHEN THEY MAKE MISTAKES...DISGUSTING any adult/parent out there could want to see ANY CHILD be thrown into our Dept. of Corrections over burglaries! These boys did not commit MURDER!!! This is definitely a wake-up call to these boys and that's all it should be!
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To Knox Resident Also: Three of the 4 were caught on video..that = Guilty by stupidity. BTW they threw their own futures away, and have no one to blame but themselves!
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Oct 3, 2008
 
Knox resident, you are the stupid one. why dont you just give them your tv, money , etc and they wouldnt have to do what they did. let them bust your doors down, break your windows, they will turn into murders if they continue, thats how it all starts, is by people like you.
prison is a good place for them.
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I keep hearing "the real story" --- what is the real story, then? Why don't we just ask the owners of all the businesses that were broken into about "the real story"? Will they can tell us "the real story" of the total damages and losses to their property, and the hell and heartache they went through each time they drove up to their business to see that they were ripped off AGAIN?

I don't think what the kids have experienced after just ten days can measure up to what these business owners went through. When would it have stopped if they were never caught. How long before someone could have been hurt or killed -- like owner could get fed up and be waiting with a gun for them the next time --? It tends to snowball out of control if it is not stopped ---- that is per statistics.

Kids must know that you can't go around breaking into businesses and stealing, over and over again --- but if they know that the consequence is a just a week in the Muncie Juvenile Detention and an ankle monitor for a while, it might be worth the risk.

I imagine the kids are having a horrible time like what people are saying. But is this from remorse???? Do they really feel bad for what they have done to these business owners and all who were affected ??? Or are they just scared and freaking out because they got caught and now must pay the consequences?

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Oct 3, 2008
 
There is a 4 1/2 hour video with these guys. You can see the "Knox football" clothing. They've repeatedly broken into the same businesses, they need professional help and need to go to jail for a month or two.
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playing sports in the state of indiana used to be a privilege, not a god given right. where i went to high school we were told we not only represented the school, but also the community. does the average citizen in knox really want to be represented by youth who have pillaged local businesses through the entire 2008 summer? if so, what does that say about the average starke county citizen? for all of the classmates who are sympathetic to these criminals i would like to remind you that neither you nor the criminals have never worked 12-14 hours a day, seven days a week as a business owner, putting all your blood and guts into your business, feeling responsible for not only your family but also your employees. all of their livelihoods depend on you and your business! maybe these boys are really good football players, but guess what, they have been exceptional thiefs and criminals. i feel that they are entitled to a college degree if they so choose. they can get their college degrees where criminals are allowed to earn their degrees, in prison.
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i do have a few questions for the parents of these boys. iam sure you are saddened by the recent events surrounding your sons. i am curious however, did you ever do a bedcheck on your high school student to see if they were really asleep in their rooms? or did you ever checkup on them to see if they really were sleeping over at that friends house, like they told you? were the parents at home when sleepovers occured? did you ever wonder where they came up with the cash for the designer clothes, shoes, etc., that you didn't purchase? did you ever wonder where all of the state of the art electronics came from, that you also didn't purchase? while i also loved my children when they were the age of your sons, i gave each of them a short leash, they were given privileges, but i kept a close eye on them and when they didn't live up to my expectations, i pulled the leash back in. my children never spent several nights inside several businesses destroying property, stealing a safe with money in it, liquor, tv's, the list is quite large here folks! while i trusted my teens, i also knew it was our role as parents to keep a close watch over them, to protect them from others who may influence them in their formative years, plus protect them from themselves if needed. it means i loved them! right daughter?
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I guarantee you all they will get much more than a college degree in prison. Those seansoned inmates love that young stuff! Up theirs is what they all deserve!
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...one of the arrested young men has a family member that is a county cop....one has been in trouble numerous times with the law. the 2 younger ones were along for the ride and to take part. if they were 20 some think it would be a different crime...an adult crime...but they are old enough to know right from wrong...they were brave enough to wear their school clothing...they took booze stolen from a bar and partied with it after the fact...how different would it be if they had gotten behind the wheel of a car and killed/injured someone? I know. i know they didnt but it could have happened. maybe they were high on meth, or maybe some other drug...if that was the case some would be saying oh. they were under the influence of drugs, they didnt know what they were doing....society needs to stop letting criminals off lightly and start holding them accountable....these young men need to be examples.
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knox resident wrote:
they need to be held accountable for their actions. It use to be different. you use to have to account for your actions, nowadays if your on the football team, or a cheerleader (yeah, i know a cheerleader who got pulled over and had been drinking and the cops gave her a ride home-for turning in her fiends still at the party)...drunk driver is still a drunk driver and to be under age and get a slap on the hand??? these boys need to be tried as adults...afterall isnt being treated like an adult what they wanted when they got a drivers license? or when they engage in sex? why should this offense be any different? BTW---there are more arrests on the horizon.....they chose to mark their records....fletchers had a vehicle set on fire also...they didnt take someone bike and throw it along the road...they committed adult crimes and had the ability to know the difference between right and wrong. everything we do is by choice...they made choices to do the things they are charged with. now let them learn.
WOW!
Is there inside info. that they ARE NOT being Charged/ punished? Where is all of this great FEAR that these kids are getting off with out paying for their actions coming from? Is this for real? Is there nothing better for people to talk about? HOW ABOUT you set your worries to rest. The next court date is Monday...why don't you all attend, see what is really going on here. After all, it is open court.
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Tom wrote:
I guarantee you all they will get much more than a college degree in prison. Those seansoned inmates love that young stuff! Up theirs is what they all deserve!
You Sir are ignorant and a disgrace. Your comment is completely uncalled for. Obviously you are uneducated your self.

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