Not black enough

Not black enough

There are 142 comments on the Canada.com story from May 21, 2011, titled Not black enough. In it, Canada.com reports that:

Princeton University professor Cornel West is as much a celebrity as scholar. He also happens to be African-American, and claims to be a friend of Barack Obama.

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Zaius-PhD

“The doctor is in.”

Since: Apr 11

Davie, FL

#1 May 21, 2011
Black people seem to be their own worst enemy.
B Real

Upper Marlboro, MD

#3 May 21, 2011
I agree if your to smart then its a problem smh

Zaius-PhD

“The doctor is in.”

Since: Apr 11

Davie, FL

#4 May 21, 2011
Cornel West is far from smart. Allen West is smart.

“Obama Killed Osama”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#5 May 21, 2011
People's problems are they associate class and education with being white without realizing that there are plenty of black people that have those traits as well. The idea of someone not being black enough doesn't come from having an abundance of those two, it comes from the unfamiliarity of things unique to black people.

President Obama is only half black and most black people consider him a role model. He's a Harvard Law grad, married, and has two well behaved and well groomed daughters (with the same woman). The the epitome of class and education for all races. And yet, no one ever says he's not black.

Then we have Clarence Thomas, educated and classy. But he's married to a white woman that is as disconnected with black people as any white man. His judicial philosophy is very contradictory to the black community. He is considered by most as being not black enough.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#6 May 21, 2011
Zaius-PhD wrote:
Black people seem to be their own worst enemy.
Well, atleast we agree on something. However, I must say that this is pretty much the same for all peoples.
KIP

San Francisco, CA

#7 May 21, 2011
Nino Green wrote:
People's problems are they associate class and education with being white without realizing that there are plenty of black people that have those traits as well. The idea of someone not being black enough doesn't come from having an abundance of those two, it comes from the unfamiliarity of things unique to black people.
President Obama is only half black and most black people consider him a role model. He's a Harvard Law grad, married, and has two well behaved and well groomed daughters (with the same woman). The the epitome of class and education for all races. And yet, no one ever says he's not black.
Then we have Clarence Thomas, educated and classy. But he's married to a white woman that is as disconnected with black people as any white man. His judicial philosophy is very contradictory to the black community. He is considered by most as being not black enough.
During his campaign there were black people protesting and saying Obama was NOT black enough. They were also saying he wasn't going to be good for blacks. I'm not sure what all of that meant.

Zaius-PhD

“The doctor is in.”

Since: Apr 11

Davie, FL

#8 May 21, 2011
KIP wrote:
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During his campaign there were black people protesting and saying Obama was NOT black enough. They were also saying he wasn't going to be good for blacks. I'm not sure what all of that meant.
They were sure right though.
QBert550

New York, NY

#9 May 21, 2011
Zaius-PhD wrote:
Cornel West is far from smart. Allen West is smart.
Neither guy is all that smart.

The problem with this "not black enough" nonsense is that is represents a Jim Crow psychology whereby blacks see "blackness" through white supremist eyes. Too much of what blacks in this country think of themselves has been programed by centuries of psychological warfare waged upon us and some of us still obviously suffer the effects.

this is why you see morons still stuck in the ghettoized idea of "blackness" even now in 2011

“What do the stars say......”

Since: May 11

...explore outside the milkway

#10 May 21, 2011
QBert550 wrote:
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Neither guy is all that smart.
The problem with this "not black enough" nonsense is that is represents a Jim Crow psychology whereby blacks see "blackness" through white supremist eyes. Too much of what blacks in this country think of themselves has been programed by centuries of psychological warfare waged upon us and some of us still obviously suffer the effects.
this is why you see morons still stuck in the ghettoized idea of "blackness" even now in 2011
This is so true.
Anne

Washington, DC

#11 May 21, 2011
We blacks are as diverse as anyone else, and there is no one individual who speaks for us. We can be found at every socioeconomic level, with varying interests, degrees of education, and life experiences. The idea that we are all victims, living in ghettoes, and lacking in intellectual gifts with only athletic or musical ones is one that should have been given a decent burial a long time ago.

“You Are Who You Are”

Since: Apr 11

Live, Love, Laugh =D

#12 May 21, 2011
Go Anne. :)
B Real

Upper Marlboro, MD

#13 May 22, 2011
How are we just as diverse as anyone eles when so much of our beliefs and actions are the same. You can find white, asian, and even latino ppl listening to a broad spectrum of music. Ranging from pop, rap, various types of rock and what ever eles is out there. Majority not all ill say 9/10 blacks just listen to rap and r&b or what ever is labled as "black music". Go into any black community good or bad rich or poor and it will be majority rap played and barely of the other genre of music played if any. Also our beliefs are lockdown by our own ppl. If i started talking proper worked hard and got a big house in a white community i will be labled as a sellout just for wanting to do better for me and my family. If you still believe blks are just as diverse as any group (idk were your from its just an example) ask highschool students in a generally blk school what they want to do with there lives and see what the answer is, me graduating just 2 years ago i think i know what im talking about. You wont imagine how many just wont even know or guys might say something like "mane im tryna get this mixtape out" or even the women saying they to be an entertainer or find some thug who is a boss with money and sweet smh. So if you disagree please reply to this.
Anne wrote:
We blacks are as diverse as anyone else, and there is no one individual who speaks for us. We can be found at every socioeconomic level, with varying interests, degrees of education, and life experiences. The idea that we are all victims, living in ghettoes, and lacking in intellectual gifts with only athletic or musical ones is one that should have been given a decent burial a long time ago.

Zaius-PhD

“The doctor is in.”

Since: Apr 11

Davie, FL

#14 May 22, 2011
Anne wrote:
We blacks are as diverse as anyone else, and there is no one individual who speaks for us. We can be found at every socioeconomic level, with varying interests, degrees of education, and life experiences. The idea that we are all victims, living in ghettoes, and lacking in intellectual gifts with only athletic or musical ones is one that should have been given a decent burial a long time ago.
You are so diverse that 99.5% of you vote for one man based on skin colour.

oh_Really-___-__ _-

“Go Speed Racer, Go Speed Racer”

Since: May 11

Go Speed Racer, GO!!!

#15 May 22, 2011
Zaius-PhD wrote:
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You are so diverse that 99.5% of you vote for one man based on skin colour.
Blacks are not a monolith,
...and every one of them will tell you.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#18 May 22, 2011
KIP wrote:
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During his campaign there were black people protesting and saying Obama was NOT black enough. They were also saying he wasn't going to be good for blacks. I'm not sure what all of that meant.
Three years later, he still isnt good for blacks!
Not one law has he changed, that would benefit blacks.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#19 May 22, 2011
Particulary, the judicial laws, have been the most unfairest for blacks. He hasn't touched those yet, and everybody with common sense should know those laws are unfair, and should be revamped, and if he doesn't change them, what good would his service had been to the black community, judicially speaking ?
A Nnoyed

Turvey, UK

#20 May 22, 2011
Nzingha wrote:
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Three years later, he still isnt good for blacks!
Not one law has he changed, that would benefit blacks.
Passing laws to favour one race isn't only wrong and racist, but probably also unconstitutional.

Zaius-PhD

“The doctor is in.”

Since: Apr 11

Davie, FL

#21 May 22, 2011
A Nnoyed wrote:
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Passing laws to favour one race isn't only wrong and racist, but probably also unconstitutional.
Tell that to affirmative action. Blacks are like special children in the states.
Anne

Washington, DC

#22 May 22, 2011
B Real wrote:
How are we just as diverse as anyone eles when so much of our beliefs and actions are the same. You can find white, asian, and even latino ppl listening to a broad spectrum of music. Ranging from pop, rap, various types of rock and what ever eles is out there. Majority not all ill say 9/10 blacks just listen to rap and r&b or what ever is labled as "black music". Go into any black community good or bad rich or poor and it will be majority rap played and barely of the other genre of music played if any. Also our beliefs are lockdown by our own ppl. If i started talking proper worked hard and got a big house in a white community i will be labled as a sellout just for wanting to do better for me and my family. If you still believe blks are just as diverse as any group (idk were your from its just an example) ask highschool students in a generally blk school what they want to do with there lives and see what the answer is, me graduating just 2 years ago i think i know what im talking about. You wont imagine how many just wont even know or guys might say something like "mane im tryna get this mixtape out" or even the women saying they to be an entertainer or find some thug who is a boss with money and sweet smh. So if you disagree please reply to this.
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You obviously have an extremely limited view of blacks. As far as music is concerned, many of us like jazz, oldies, and there are even those who like "white" music. A person's age can also have a lot to do with his or her musical preference, so it's useless to label blacks as only listening to rap. A lot of white kids listen to rap, too. The folks in my circle are also about self-improvement, many having graduated from college and having sent their kids to one. I am among the silent majority who go to work everyday, pay bills, and lead a law-abiding life. That was just as true when I was young as it is now. We don't make the news because we are not nearly as interesting as sports and entertainment figures, or the destructive thugs--both groups that the media is fixated on.
While there are undoubtedly black kids who are trying to decide what to do with their lives after high school, there are kids of other races who are at a similar point at that stage in life. While I'm not disputing that you have seen what you have, since I have seen the same things, you are still making sweeping generalizations about blacks based on that. I don't know where you are from either, but I would never presume to label you in the way you have labeled an entire race. Since it's easy to go to a city, not to mention a state, and find people of all races at various economic levels, it's not necessarily where one comes from.
There are not only blacks who are and have been college-bound, but who have also traveled and broadened their horizons. I, for one, have visited 32 of our 50 states, and my sister is currently visiting China and Vietnam. There are also American-born blacks with one or both parents from other countries, who are very familiar with the culture(s) their parent(s) came from. That would make for a different upbringing from that of a child raised in a home with parents who have only lived in America. To summarize, you have taken what you have observed and mistakenly attributed it to us as a race.
READTHIS

Tampa, FL

#23 May 22, 2011
Black Americans are under attack.

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