Episcopalian leader visits Bend

Episcopalian leader visits Bend

There are 38 comments on the www.bendbulletin.com story from Jun 10, 2009, titled Episcopalian leader visits Bend. In it, www.bendbulletin.com reports that:

While visiting Bend on Tuesday afternoon, the first female presiding bishop charged with leading 2.4 million Episcopalians in 16 countries said the church continues to challenge the larger society to take care of those in need ...

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“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#21 Jun 16, 2009
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I can tell you from personal experince that although many couples plan to get married, they don't ever expect to get divorced, or plan for it in advance.
Divorce is the default setting of a failed marriage, not a deliberate act against marriage or the scripture that supports it.
Do you enjoy tying with your feet in your mouth?

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#22 Jun 16, 2009
*typing (still blown away by Joey)

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#23 Jun 16, 2009
devons wrote:
... and here I thought people just got married in order to get divorced. Thanks for setting me 'straight'.
I'm afraid it will take a lot more than that to set you "straight".
devons wrote:
Now all you have to do is convince the rest of the Christians that's it's perfectly ok to divorce and remarry as many times as you wish and that the bible says nothing about it.
I think you totally, if not deliberately, missed my point.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#24 Jun 16, 2009
KGC wrote:
Well then, if Paul, himself, asserted that he wasn't perfect - that there were errors, even if they were not an overriding concern, how is it that we, 2000 years later, have concluded that his Letters are matters of perfection?
Not perfection, but instruction for the less than perfect.

BTW, Luther believed that the grace of God over-rides the sins of the priest as he administers the eucharist, otherwise God's grace would be dependent upon imperfect, leaky vessels.
KGC wrote:
... Inspired? Written within the presense of the Holy Spirit? Good guides to the Way of Christ? Absolutely, Yes!
But, the "Word of God?" No.
Written by and through and of the "Word of God?" Yes. The "Word of God" as expressed through Paul.
KGC
Yet still as authorative as if it were expressed by any other apostle.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#25 Jun 16, 2009
MiddleWay wrote:
Do you enjoy tying with your feet in your mouth?
Rodeo?

“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

Since: Jun 08

Schaumburg, IL

#26 Jun 16, 2009
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I'm afraid it will take a lot more than that to set you "straight".
And you would be the one to know about the difficulties in trying to be set str8, Blanche. Amen.

You're a simple bigot, and that's all that's going on with your inane, selective, defaming posts.
KGC

Quincy, IL

#27 Jun 16, 2009
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Not perfection, but instruction for the less than perfect.
BTW, Luther believed that the grace of God over-rides the sins of the priest as he administers the eucharist, otherwise God's grace would be dependent upon imperfect, leaky vessels.
<quoted text>
Yet still as authorative as if it were expressed by any other apostle.
Joe,

Certainly, Luther was correct in this assertion. However, a priest who carefully practices his craft in order to harmonize with Christ is able to transmit the Eucharist in great power.

The Episcopal Church is known as having set its foundation upon a "three-legged footstool" composed of Scripture, Tradition and Reason. Tradition is the last to change, when Scripture and Reason are brought to bear on an inconsistency or an unfounded principle in practice. Tradition also serves as a "sea-anchor" that trails and stabilizes the vessel of the church when it sails into rough conditions and uncharted waters that test its foundational understandings, as we are now doing.

Scripture is the least flexible of the three. Alternatively, Reason is both the least reliable and, yet, the most likely to produce sensible and workable solutions. Its active arena is the realm of discovery. Reason also goes hand in hand with intuition and wisdom, all three of which are aspects of the living Self.

Scripture is presented as the container of guidance that has come in the past through the Holy Spirit. We understand scripture to hold the very words of Christ Jesus and his apostles and disciples. Therefore we rightly look to scripture for guidance and must very carefully review its contribution when considering action that appears to counter or stray from that guidance.

But, it is essential to comprehend that we live a life that is far greater than scripture itself. We are the living beings that are the cells of God, the very Children of God. Every one of us.

We transcend all denominations, all religions, all methods of teaching, all politics, all parochial understandings. That is why Christ Jesus gave us two primary commandments to live by while endeavoring to open the Way for everyone.

KGC

Since: Jul 07

Mason, OH

#28 Jun 17, 2009
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I'm afraid it will take a lot more than that to set you "straight".
<quoted text>
I think you totally, if not deliberately, missed my point.
I didn't miss your point. It's just a matter of interpretation by individuals and picking and choosing what you want to believe in. It's pretty much what many homosexuals are accused of.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#29 Jun 17, 2009
devons wrote:
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I didn't miss your point. It's just a matter of interpretation by individuals and picking and choosing what you want to believe in ...
Well, if you didn't miss my point, you simply dismissed it.

Since: Jul 07

Mason, OH

#30 Jun 17, 2009
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Well, if you didn't miss my point, you simply dismissed it.
No I didn't. I addressed it in my previous post.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#31 Jun 17, 2009
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Rodeo?
I don't do rodeo.

Next clueless response...

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#32 Jun 17, 2009
MiddleWay wrote:
I don't do rodeo ...
... yet you post like a cowboy.
Ted

Pekin, IL

#33 Jun 17, 2009
KGC wrote:
<quoted text>
Joe,
Certainly, Luther was correct in this assertion. However, a priest who carefully practices his craft in order to harmonize with Christ is able to transmit the Eucharist in great power.
The Episcopal Church is known as having set its foundation upon a "three-legged footstool" composed of Scripture, Tradition and Reason. Tradition is the last to change, when Scripture and Reason are brought to bear on an inconsistency or an unfounded principle in practice. Tradition also serves as a "sea-anchor" that trails and stabilizes the vessel of the church when it sails into rough conditions and uncharted waters that test its foundational understandings, as we are now doing.
Scripture is the least flexible of the three. Alternatively, Reason is both the least reliable and, yet, the most likely to produce sensible and workable solutions. Its active arena is the realm of discovery. Reason also goes hand in hand with intuition and wisdom, all three of which are aspects of the living Self.
Scripture is presented as the container of guidance that has come in the past through the Holy Spirit. We understand scripture to hold the very words of Christ Jesus and his apostles and disciples. Therefore we rightly look to scripture for guidance and must very carefully review its contribution when considering action that appears to counter or stray from that guidance.
But, it is essential to comprehend that we live a life that is far greater than scripture itself. We are the living beings that are the cells of God, the very Children of God. Every one of us.
We transcend all denominations, all religions, all methods of teaching, all politics, all parochial understandings. That is why Christ Jesus gave us two primary commandments to live by while endeavoring to open the Way for everyone.
KGC
You stool seems to have only no legs, since both tradition and God's Word condemn and prohibit all homosexual acts. Your reason seems to be lacking, since it differs with the other two.

You have no 'stool.'
KGC

Quincy, IL

#34 Jun 17, 2009
Ted wrote:
<quoted text>You stool seems to have only no legs, since both tradition and God's Word condemn and prohibit all homosexual acts. Your reason seems to be lacking, since it differs with the other two.
You have no 'stool.'
Dear Ted,

If I have no "stool," you have no comprehension.

KGC
Ted

Pekin, IL

#35 Jun 17, 2009
KGC wrote:
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Dear Ted,
If I have no "stool," you have no comprehension.
KGC
It is you and your fellow fanatics of your hate based cause that are killing the Episcopal Church.

God's Word commands against all homosexual acts. You will never change that fact.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#36 Jun 18, 2009
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... yet you post like a cowboy.
And that scares you?

You post like a troll.

Have you nothing related to the topic to say?

*next clueless off topic response...

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#37 Jun 18, 2009
Ted wrote:
<quoted text>It is you and your fellow fanatics of your hate based cause that are killing the Episcopal Church.
God's Word commands against all homosexual acts. You will never change that fact.
Still spurned Wil?

Joey seems your type..........

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#38 Jun 18, 2009
MiddleWay wrote:
And that scares you?
Only if I was a horse.
MiddleWay wrote:
... Have you nothing related to the topic to say?
Yes, but you don't; you just keep posting abt me.
Talk abt "obsessing".

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