Forest Fire Prevention Efforts Could ...

Forest Fire Prevention Efforts Could Lessen Carbon Sequestration, Add To Greenhouse Warming

There are 6 comments on the www.sciencedaily.com story from Jul 13, 2009, titled Forest Fire Prevention Efforts Could Lessen Carbon Sequestration, Add To Greenhouse Warming. In it, www.sciencedaily.com reports that:

Widely sought efforts to reduce fuels that increase catastrophic fire in Pacific Northwest forests will be counterproductive to another important societal goal of sequestering carbon to help offset global warming, forestry researchers at Oregon State University conclude in a new report.

Even if the biofuels were used in an optimal manner to produce electricity or make cellulosic ethanol, there would still be a net loss of carbon sequestration in forests of the Coast Range and the west side of the Cascade Mountains for at least 100 years and probably much longer, the study showed.

"Fuel reduction treatments should be forgone if forest ecosystems are to provide maximal amelioration of atmospheric carbon dioxide over the next 100 years," the study authors wrote in their conclusion.

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Northie

Spokane, WA

#1 Jul 14, 2009
A paradox.

Let forest floor fuels build up in order to absorb more carbon, and larger fires result as temperatures warm and summer droughts spread--releasing even more carbon. Or...thin the forests to minimize fires, but sacrifice some of their ability to absorb carbon.

And this doesn't even consider the impact of spreading insect infestations caused by warming as well, which kill millions of trees and leave them as standing tinder, turning small fires into giants.

In other words, forests have a whole series of feedbacks in place that will accelerate warming. First, the temperate forests in dry summer climates will go up in explosive fires, as they did in South Australia this year and as they probably will in Western North America within the next few years. Then the tropical forests will follow. Then, solving warming will cost a friggin' fortune, and worldwide martial law will follow.

That's not much of a legacy to leave the next generations, now is it?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

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#2 Jul 15, 2009
Not a paradox, protect life and property from fire by managing undergrowth and building fire lanes. Only a warmist would find this confusing.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#3 Jul 16, 2009
Ever dug a fire line, thinned forests or cleared their floors of fuels, Brian? It's incredibly laborious and costly, and it's all taxpayer funded.

And it won't do a thing to protect the atmosphere, which is a good deal more important than protecting some millionaire's unoccupied vacation palace foolishly built in a fire-prone forest.

Foresters and biologists were predicting that forests would begin burning in earnest when temps rise another 2-3 C, but now it appears this is too conservative. The combined effects of summer drought, heat and insects are worse than we thought.
JRS

Oak Creek, WI

#4 Jul 16, 2009
Northie wrote:
Ever dug a fire line, thinned forests or cleared their floors of fuels, Brian? It's incredibly laborious and costly, and it's all taxpayer funded.
And it won't do a thing to protect the atmosphere, which is a good deal more important than protecting some millionaire's unoccupied vacation palace foolishly built in a fire-prone forest.
Foresters and biologists were predicting that forests would begin burning in earnest when temps rise another 2-3 C, but now it appears this is too conservative. The combined effects of summer drought, heat and insects are worse than we thought.
"Foresters and biologists were predicting that forests would begin burning in earnest when temps rise another 2-3 C, but now it appears this is too conservative. The combined effects of summer drought, heat and insects are worse than we thought. "
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Wait. I thought the heat would cause species to perish - extinction, yet here you claim insect boom.

Just another illustration of the fanciful childlike imaginations and senseless babblings of AGW crisis peddlers.

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MIT Climate Scientist Calls Fears of Global Warming 'Silly'- Equates Concern to "Little Kids" Attempting to "Scare Each Other"

Lindzen mocked fears of global warming by comparing them to children's imaginations. "I think it's mainly just like little kids locking themselves in dark closets to see how much they can scare each other and themselves," Lindzen said.

Lindzen, a past UN IPCC contributor, also explained how only a dozen scientists were involved in writing the 2001(Third Assessment Report) IPCC media hyped Summary For Policymakers that purported to speak for thousands of scientists.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-wa...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#5 Jul 16, 2009
I've done it here in Germany, where forests are privately owned. People have the right to passage, but property owners are responsible to clear deadfall.

You are quite right, it's hard work. It goes easier with chainsaws, my family uses hand tools.
Earthling

Almería, Spain

#6 Jul 16, 2009
Northie wrote:
Ever dug a fire line, thinned forests or cleared their floors of fuels, Brian? It's incredibly laborious and costly, and it's all taxpayer funded.
And it won't do a thing to protect the atmosphere, which is a good deal more important than protecting some millionaire's unoccupied vacation palace foolishly built in a fire-prone forest.
Foresters and biologists were predicting that forests would begin burning in earnest when temps rise another 2-3 C, but now it appears this is too conservative. The combined effects of summer drought, heat and insects are worse than we thought.
You really have lost the plot!
It's too expensive to dig fire lines, but you're quite happy to see emerging nations go under as CO2 is reduced, while the west sinks slowly in the sunset as you worry about a few degrees of warming, drought and insects.

I'm glad you didn't mention polar bears.

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