New Ice Age could be coming

New Ice Age could be coming

There are 16 comments on the network.nationalpost.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled New Ice Age could be coming. In it, network.nationalpost.com reports that:

Earth could soon be entering a new Ice Age, according to scientists at Oregon State University and other institutions, in a study to b e released this week by Science magazine. The Science study refutes claims by some scientists that carbon dioxide was an important factor in ending the last ice Age.

"Sometime around now, scientists say, the Earth should be changing from a long interglacial period that has lasted the past 10,000 years and shifting back towards conditions that will ultimately lead to another ice age - unless some other forces stop or slow it," states the release from Oregon State University.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#1 Aug 26, 2009
"Sometime around now,..- unless some other forces stop or slow it,"

And what do you call AGW, dimwit?

It is true that the world was cooling at about 0.2C per millenia before AGW. But the orbital cycles that drive ice ages are not that well established and there is little evidence that it would have occured soon. In fact, the most authoritative study suggests that it would be 'scheduled' for about 50ky from now.

That said, we learn more every day. And the only thing certain is that a new ice age will occur some day... long after AGW...
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#2 Aug 26, 2009
Note by the way, CO2 was included as a POSITIVE FEEDBACK, not a cause of the end of the ice age.

I smell another National Post 'spin and spam' revison to the science reports.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#3 Aug 26, 2009
"Sometime around now,..and shifting back towards conditions .. another ice age - unless some other forces stop or slow it,"

And what do you call AGW, dimwit?

The climate was cooling at about 0.2C before AGW, true. But it has many ups and downs during an interglacial. A return to an ice age is in no way well determined and some forecasts put it at 50,000 years from now. In any case, it will be after AGW is long finished.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#4 Aug 27, 2009
I think LHMF is upset because this would spell doom for the AGW movement. People would want to spew more CO2 in an attempt to stop the next ice age or at least midigate it. After all who is going to believe uncontrolled warming when they are worring about an ice age.

The good news is that this is part of a media cycle. They will talk about the impending ice age for the next twenty or so years and then it will be AGW's turn again.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#5 Aug 27, 2009
tina anne wrote:
I think LHMF is upset because this would spell doom for the AGW movement.
Actually, the point I made was that this had nothing to do with AGW ( orbital cycles are NOT controlled by greenhouse gases) and that the whole story was nonsense disguised as reason since it was based on 'if this goes on' when it knows that it doesn't go on..AGW is the primary driver of global temperatures in the current century/millenia

“The Truth Will Set You Free”

Since: Jun 07

Gainesville, FL

#6 Aug 27, 2009
tina anne wrote:
I think LHMF is upset because this would spell doom for the AGW movement. People would want to spew more CO2 in an attempt to stop the next ice age or at least midigate it. After all who is going to believe uncontrolled warming when they are worring about an ice age.
The good news is that this is part of a media cycle. They will talk about the impending ice age for the next twenty or so years and then it will be AGW's turn again.
It seems that you may be 100% correct. Check out the past history of climate scares.

http://www.saveportland.com/Climate/index.htm...
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php...

Even the Old Farmers Almanac is in on the media's love of climate scare stories.
http://www.almanac.com/timeline/index.php
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#7 Aug 27, 2009
The Truth Matters wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems that you may be 100% correct. Check out the past history of climate scares.
http://www.saveportland.com/Climate/index.htm...
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php...
Even the Old Farmers Almanac is in on the media's love of climate scare stories.
http://www.almanac.com/timeline/index.php
You two keep talking to yourselves. You hardly need any facts to make it up.
Earthling

Almerķa, Spain

#8 Aug 28, 2009
The Truth Matters wrote:
It seems that you may be 100% correct. Check out the past history of climate scares.
http://www.saveportland.com/Climate/index.htm...
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php...
Even the Old Farmers Almanac is in on the media's love of climate scare stories.
http://www.almanac.com/timeline/index.php
What's most amusing about this latest scare, is that it's just one more in a long line of historical scares going back to the dawn of mankind.
Sadly, we don't have much in the way of printed evidence for the really early scares.

This latest one is more widespread than any that went before, mainly due to the internerd and a hype crazy media.

Warmies should read the headlines in your first link, they're proof that the present scare is nothing new, in fact it's really old news that's been spiced up for the younger generation to swallow.

There is a difference this time, science is more available to the public (internerd again) and many internet scientists have arrived with their prophecy of doom and gloom.
The fact that all they're able to do is quote the bits of science they agree with, is neither here nor there, they're convinced, "The science is settled" and that's the end of it for them.

I wonder how many times the science has been wrongly settled in the past?

Yes, maybe this time they're right, but the odds are that they're wrong, as usual.
Fun Facts

AOL

#9 Aug 28, 2009
If our current interglacial is like the four previous interglacials, it will be ending soon. Not likely in our lifetimes but soon in the earth's timeline.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#10 Aug 28, 2009
Fun Facts wrote:
If our current interglacial is like the four previous interglacials, it will be ending soon. Not likely in our lifetimes but soon in the earth's timeline.
I.e., in a few millennia- worry about global warming first.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#11 Aug 28, 2009
Fair Game wrote:
I.e., in a few millennia- worry about global warming first.
"Be afraid. Be very afraid."

"Half man, half insect ... total terror!" and "Something went wrong in the lab today ... something very wrong"

The Fly, 1986
Earthling

Almerķa, Spain

#12 Aug 29, 2009
Fair Game wrote:
I.e., in a few millennia- worry about global warming first.
So tell us, oh wise glasshopper, for how much longer will global warming continue to, "cook" the planet, how hot will it get and how long will it last?

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#13 Aug 29, 2009
Fun Facts wrote:
If our current interglacial is like the four previous interglacials, it will be ending soon. Not likely in our lifetimes but soon in the earth's timeline.
But it may start in my kids lifetime.
Fun Facts

AOL

#14 Aug 29, 2009
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
But it may start in my kids lifetime.
The timeline is unknown, but the progression towards another period of glaciation is happening. The fact that the LIA was 'cold' enough to cause the level of glaciation that occurred, and the level of glaciation in the LIA excceeded any previous glaciation since the end of the Younger Dryas, should cause most people to anticipate the onset of another glaciation to be sooner than later.
Earthling

Almerķa, Spain

#15 Aug 29, 2009
tina anne wrote:
But it may start in my kids lifetime.
If you're that worried, tell your kids not to reproduce.
LOL

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#16 Aug 29, 2009
Earthling wrote:
<quoted text>If you're that worried, tell your kids not to reproduce.
LOL
I prefer they waited to do that until after completing thier education and have been married a little while.

But if I was worried about a 1C/century fall then I would of been an alamist.

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