Study suggests record warming ahead

Study suggests record warming ahead

There are 11 comments on the Deseret News story from Mar 8, 2013, titled Study suggests record warming ahead. In it, Deseret News reports that:

First the good news: In the last 11,300 years, humans have endured a planet warmer than today's, even as they set about building their earliest civilizations.

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PHD

Cibolo, TX

#1 Mar 8, 2013
According to NASA, the
"global average"
temperature for 2012 was 58.3 degrees Fahrenheit, making it the ninth-hottest year in recorded history.

However,
"there is no single,"
agreed-upon method of calculating these temperatures, so scientists tend to discuss climate change by highlighting deviations from a specific reference point.

More scientific science fiction just follow the money.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#2 Mar 8, 2013
PHD wrote:
According to NASA, the
"global average"
temperature for 2012 was 58.3 degrees Fahrenheit, making it the ninth-hottest year in recorded history.
Which can be determined using the SAME methodology for all measurements so that they are 'comparible' and therefore a max and min can be assigned.
PHD wrote:
However,
"there is no single,"
agreed-upon method of calculating these temperatures, so scientists tend to discuss climate change by highlighting deviations from a specific reference point.
Yes. The different methods are irrelevant when comparing the deviations (anomalies) from some 'baseline'. This is quite useful to compare the CHANGE in temperature caused by AGW. After all, the baseline doesn't matter all that much. It is the CHANGE in the temperature that is the relevant matter.
PHD wrote:
However,
More scientific science fiction just follow the money.
And of course,'follow the money' is totally irrelevant to the temperature which goes up in response to basic physics and the emissions of GHGs which are accelerating in level.

But I understand where you are coming from. Having no background in science, reasoning, logic or education, you have a knee jerk reactions best summed up by Benjamin Franklin..

“He that is of the opinion money will do everything may well be suspected of doing everything for money.”- Benjamin Franklin.
SpaceBlues

United States

#3 Mar 8, 2013
It took just 100 years for the global average temperature to change by 1.3 degrees, when it had taken 5,000 years to do that before.

What happened?

After the end of the ice age, our planet got warmer. Then, 5,000 years ago, it started to get cooler — but really slowly. In all, it cooled 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit, up until the last century or so. Then it flipped again — global average temperature shot up.

"Temperatures now have gone from that cold period to the warm period in just 100 years," Marcott says.

So it's taken just 100 years for the average temperature to change by 1.3 degrees, when it took 5,000 years to do that before.

Why? Man-made greenhouse gases that are released into the atmosphere in vast amounts daily. Now, 90,000,000 tons of CO2 each day.

"The climate changes to come are going to be larger than anything that human civilization and agriculture has seen in its entire existence. And that is quite a sobering thought." [Gavin Schmidt, a climate researcher at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies]
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#4 Mar 8, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Which can be determined using the SAME methodology for all measurements so that they are 'comparible' and therefore a max and min can be assigned.
<quoted text>
Yes. The different methods are irrelevant when comparing the deviations (anomalies) from some 'baseline'. This is quite useful to compare the CHANGE in temperature caused by AGW. After all, the baseline doesn't matter all that much. It is the CHANGE in the temperature that is the relevant matter.
<quoted text>
And of course,'follow the money' is totally irrelevant to the temperature which goes up in response to basic physics and the emissions of GHGs which are accelerating in level.
But I understand where you are coming from. Having no background in science, reasoning, logic or education, you have a knee jerk reactions best summed up by Benjamin Franklin..
“He that is of the opinion money will do everything may well be suspected of doing everything for money.”- Benjamin Fanklin.
No you don't understand where I'm coming from your on a scientific science fiction mentality. So do show all your vast education and print your peer reviewed published work. That cut and paste thing you do shows your lack of education, reasoning, logic and real science.
litesong

Everett, WA

#5 Mar 8, 2013
fetid feces face flip flopper fiend wrote:
...... you don't understand where I'm coming from......
We understand that "fetid feces face flip flopper fiend" portrayed itself as a PHD, but didn't have one. We know it has no science & mathematics degrees, whatsoever. We know that "fetid feces face flip flopper fiend" probably doesn't have any upper class science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.

Still, "fetid feces face flip flopper fiend" has not admitted to no hi skule DEE-plooomaa.

"fetid feces face flip flopper fiend" may come from no intellectual place.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#6 Mar 9, 2013
The above poser #5 AKA "pinheadlitesout" has another case of diaper rash. Learn from this folks it could happen to you.(Not)
Kyle

Rensselaer, IN

#7 Mar 10, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>No you don't understand where I'm coming from your on a scientific science fiction mentality. So do show all your vast education and print your peer reviewed published work. That cut and paste thing you do shows your lack of education, reasoning, logic and real science.
OMG! Are you the most hypocritical person on the planet?! All of the mountains of peer reviewed published science pointing to AGW are dismissed by you, but you demand to see some posted while REFUSING TO EVEN TRY TO POST ANY SCIENCE THAT SUPPORTS THE DENIER VIEW.

Once again, you prove to be the most retarded, dishonest, insane poster on topix.
litesong

Everett, WA

#8 Mar 10, 2013
Kyle wrote:
.....you prove to be the most retarded, dishonest, insane poster on topix.
That is to be expected from 'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend'.'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' chooses to support slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigs &/or alleged & proud threateners, & so is. It takes a lack of education to be a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigs &/or alleged & proud threatener. & 'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' DOESN'T have education is spades.'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' DOESN'T have mathematics & science degrees.'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' DOESN'T have a degree, at all.'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' DOESN'T have upper class science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa(or no DEE-plooomaa, at all).

All 'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' is, is an ego!
litesong

Everett, WA

#9 Mar 10, 2013
Oh, yeah!'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend', who supports slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigs &/or alleged & proud threatener, started as a cosmic 'dust bunny'. But it allowed itself to degenerate.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#10 Mar 10, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG! Are you the most hypocritical person on the planet?! All of the mountains of peer reviewed published science pointing to AGW are dismissed by you, but you demand to see some posted while REFUSING TO EVEN TRY TO POST ANY SCIENCE THAT SUPPORTS THE DENIER VIEW.
Once again, you prove to be the most retarded, dishonest, insane poster on topix.
No you hold that trophy. All you have is cut and paste scientific science fiction. You claim you’re an engineer so show your entire peer reviewed published work. Hay it’s not nice to poke fun at the mentally challenged people when you display many mental issues. Well than there is "pinheadlitesout" that tops you in that discipline.
litesong

Everett, WA

#11 Mar 11, 2013
That is to be expected from 'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend'.'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' chooses to support slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigs &/or alleged & proud threateners, & so is. It takes a lack of education to be a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigs &/or alleged & proud threatener. & 'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' DOESN'T have education is spades.'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' DOESN'T have mathematics & science degrees.'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' DOESN'T have a degree, at all.'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' DOESN'T have upper class science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa(or no DEE-plooomaa, at all).

All 'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' is, is an ego!

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