Edmonton's Victory Christian Center in limbo

Aug 10, 2012 Full story: Edmonton Journal 71

One fall three decades ago, Cal Switzer stepped out in faith and into a room at the Convention Inn South.

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Edmonton, Canada

#49 Sep 18, 2013
UPDATE !!!!!
They are Meeting at the CDI College South on 23 Avenue/115 Street in the Chapel Wednesday,Saturday and Sunday Nights !!!!!
#'s are sure DROPPING LOTS since lots of EX STAFF,MEMBERS/NON saw the Truth with "SECURITY" ( Ushers ) say the church is not moving but the TRUTH finally came TRUE since mid August they NO LONGER own the Property on Ellerslie Road !!!!
It's a shame but the TRUTH YES TRUTH is out after so many year's of our $$$$$$$$$$ stolen since 1982-Present and yes we see it now SWITZERS are CROOKS and using our MONEY for their own WEALTH !!!!!!!!!

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do not judge

Sherwood Park, Canada

#50 Oct 5, 2013
I agree with 'interested observer'. The spelling and grammer on most of this post is horrible. Could be all the same person.The anger is obvious in their letters. None of us really know what happened but the Pastor and his wife. And of course, God.
I have tithed to churches for years and trust that God accepts those gifts and blesses others with them. God's blessing and favor is on all His children even when we are not perfect. He loves us regardless of our shortcomings. It is up to Him to judge the Swizters, not us. As Christians we should only be praying for them and forgiving them if indeed they are guilty of anything. The general attitude on this site is NOT Christian. If the Switzers tithed and invested their money wisely then that's their business if the own houses and cars ect. If we are called to be poor, how can we be generous?
If Pastor Switzer lost his way where was his support? The devil attacks those he knows will harm his kingdom. None of us are guiltless or faultless. This is a 'black eye' to the Christian community which should be observed as loving and unified. The whole thing is sad. If you feel violated by Victory Christian Centre than 'turn the other cheek' and move on.

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s katz

Winnipeg, Canada

#51 Oct 6, 2013
does this church welcome jews, I got money
satanic mambo BJ to go go

Edmonton, Canada

#52 Oct 8, 2013
Stupid, f##king christian a##holes
More Ex Staff

Edmonton, Canada

#53 Dec 7, 2013
Well ???? If this church is well GREAT !!!! Why are the #'s DROPPING since they moved in August 2013 and I remember when our old location was over 1000 People and now we are under 100 and EX STAFF,MEMBERS,NON finally sees the TRUTH with Cal/Jan being in control and lies and steals our $$$!!!!
Maybe if the " Pastor's " ( Switzer ) Were ACCOUNTABLE and not STEALING the $$$ for their own WEALTH since 1982 !!!!

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current leader at VCC

Edmonton, Canada

#54 Dec 25, 2013
Hope and pray this place closes down and we get our $$$$$$$$$$ back what Switzer's stole from us...

Can we just get back to the basics here? You will stand before God one day and give an account of how you treated leaders. Did you know that jesus loved judas soo much that the desciples couldnt tell that he was betraying jesus? This means that Jesus didnt start a forum about Judas or inform the desciples in any way of what he was doing. Jesus let him betray him because he knew that he was there for his fathers will not for his own spiritual pride saying "look at me i know who the fruads are". This is really what your doing, which tells me that you left vcc in offense and not in love, not for the benefit of getting closer to Jesus and moving on to another pastor or leader which would have been totally ok by God. But this isnt what your doing, if it is then the forum header would read " praying for pastors in edmonton going through a tough time" END OF STORY ... your saying that you would rather pick up a stone than just walk away and pray for change. This is not the way God would handle this situation , and its not the way he is handling it. The holy spirit wants to do soo much for this city and nation, we dont need so called "Christians" to plug up the airways with their spiritual rocks, which no matter what way you look at it, those rocks become a stumbling stone for the lost. So let me be real with you "Shut it".

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Benny

Winnipeg, Canada

#55 Dec 25, 2013
Brrrrrat brrrrrrrraaaaat brrrat said the lord

Since: Dec 11

Winkler, Canada

#56 Jan 10, 2014
current leader at VCC wrote:
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Can we just get back to the basics here? You will stand before God one day and give an account of how you treated leaders. Did you know that jesus loved judas soo much that the desciples couldnt tell that he was betraying jesus? This means that Jesus didnt start a forum about Judas or inform the desciples in any way of what he was doing. Jesus let him betray him because he knew that he was there for his fathers will not for his own spiritual pride saying "look at me i know who the fruads are". This is really what your doing, which tells me that you left vcc in offense and not in love, not for the benefit of getting closer to Jesus and moving on to another pastor or leader which would have been totally ok by God. But this isnt what your doing, if it is then the forum header would read " praying for pastors in edmonton going through a tough time" END OF STORY ... your saying that you would rather pick up a stone than just walk away and pray for change. This is not the way God would handle this situation , and its not the way he is handling it. The holy spirit wants to do soo much for this city and nation, we dont need so called "Christians" to plug up the airways with their spiritual rocks, which no matter what way you look at it, those rocks become a stumbling stone for the lost. So let me be real with you "Shut it".
The simple fact of the matter is that god, all gods in fact, are imaginary.
There isn't a single, solitary shred of credible or verifiable evidence to suggest otherwise.
I know that religions appeal to the weak minded and the intellectually lazy, but not all of us are so handicapped.
Go ahead and enjoy your delusions, just keep them out of schools and government and we'll be fine.
Deal?
Dalyce

Edmonton, Canada

#57 Jan 24, 2014
"Current Leader at VCC"'s comments are classic cult-speak.

It really burns me that these con artists are able to run tax free business that fleece people of their money in order to line their pockets. It's disgraceful.

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Saved by Truth and Grace

Edmonton, Canada

#58 Mar 16, 2014
Well more of us ( EX STAFF/MEMBERS/NON-MEMBERS ) are finally seeing the LIGHT and being set FREE by Truth and most of all GRACE !!!!
We seen the #'s DROP since August 2013-Present and We seen the TRUTH what God/Jesus showed us in DREAMS and Reading the Bible from Cover-Cover and now we seen the TRUTH that $$witzer's are there for their own wealth/gain and we were told too seed gift "Tithe" for a church plant what the switzer's are planning to do in California soon but why with the #'s now around 20-30 each week and the #'s been dropping since last Summer !!!!! and at one time the church was over a 1000 but now the TRUTH is being in the light with false teachings etc
Maybe it's time that more PEOPLE around the World hear the TRUTH YES TRUTH and have Calvin,Janice Switzer fess up and say they were in the WRONG since 1982 for stealing our $$ and having past Office staff,members/non and Pastor's not speak the TRUTH but now we are when we start attending a NEW Church and not being forced by the leaders that wants us to hurt our Friends/Families for covering things up for a long yes long time and say we are not Moving ( last Summer 2013 )!!!!
We Pray that more of our Friends/Families WAKE-UP in dreams,Visions and Leave and attend a CHURCH that preaches the BIBLE from cover/cover and not the words the pastor to tickle our EARS !!! and it makes us cry when we see our Friends/Families mislead and quit church totally and doesn't want too attend anywhere but we are Praying that they join us in the Church we attend or a BIBLE teaching church that teaches God's/Jesus teachings and not the Prosperity gospel that is slowly but surely falling apart monthly and Yes we seen this since 1987 and now the TRUTH is brought to the light at vcc ( victory edmonton ) with the #'s dropped LOTS and now only have 20-30 attend each week !!!!! and more people are asking us to PRAY that our Friends/Families attend a new Church and asking us too Pray for them too leave quietly and not be taught of the False teachings and being SET FREE like us !!!!!

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raj

Farley, IA

#59 Mar 24, 2014
OMG! Ian Magee left the church! Lol I can't believe it. I thought it was a huge deal when the Towers left...but Ian? Wow! They must really be doing some messed up shit!
RockyPatricia

Edmonton, Canada

#60 Mar 26, 2014
Yep !!!!
He now Works at the Boyle Street Community Services in Edmonton,Alberta
raj wrote:
OMG! Ian Magee left the church! Lol I can't believe it. I thought it was a huge deal when the Towers left...but Ian? Wow! They must really be doing some messed up shit!
concerned parent

Leduc, Canada

#61 May 18, 2014
RockyPatricia wrote:
Yep !!!!
He now Works at the Boyle Street Community Services in Edmonton,Alberta <quoted text>
What about the school? Is it a fraud as well? Are the children getting the best education there?
maybe

Winnipeg, Canada

#62 May 19, 2014
Ex staff Of Switzers wrote:
YES It's TRUE YES TRUE We Seen These $$$ Scandal For YEAR'S Since The Start Of victory " christian " Center Edmonton 1982 And We Were Told if We Say ANYTHING We Will Be BANNED FROM All Victory Churches All Over The World Based Out Of Tulsa,Ok !!! And Any Health/Wealth Prosperity " Church " !!!
Wonder Why Our #'s Are DROPPING Like Now Wednesday Night " Service " Is Under 100 And Sunday Morning Is Now 165 And Sunday Night 100 !!! Due To Calvin,Janis " Janice " Switzer RUNNING The show !!!
We Remember When We Had " Camp Meetings " With Billy-Jo Daughtery " Now Passed On " And Rodney Parsley,Benny Hinn,Richard Godwin,Van Crouch !!! The CHURCH WAS PACKED But Now It's Under 200 And We Seen LOTS Of Great Pastors Like Music,Youth,Singels Get FIRED " Pushed Out " And Yes Even Office Staff Too !!!
It's A Shame We Have SECURITY " Ushers " To KICK OUT Or Throw Out If You Don't Agree What Calvin Switzer Talks About Or Tells The pastor PREACH What The BIBLE Says And Not His Words What He Was Doing Since 1982 !!!
If The " Church " Does Survive They'll Just Change The Name Of The CHURCH And Still STEAL YOUR $$$$ For Calvin's Wealth With More Cars,Houses,House Boats,Airplanes,Fancy Clothes,Trips For His Family !!!
Honestly For The Prosperity Movement They Just Change The Name Like Resurgence,Jesus People,Laughing Revial And Attract People Till They See The TRUTH YES TRUTH !!!
It's The Same teachings telling People You Will Be RICH If You Have Enough Faith And Give LOTS Of $$$ To The Church !!!
Look, not everyone like c*cks*ckers, OK?
If a private club wants to have a no c*cks*ckers policy, it's their right.
Sadly, the Boy Scouts encourages c*cks*ckers, and I suggest you pack your pack, and pack your fudge.
C*cks*cker.
Ex teacher of vcschool

Edmonton, Canada

#63 May 31, 2014
Stay away and Yes it's not a good fit for them either and they say if you don't speak in Tongues your not a christian etc So STAY AWAY !!!!!!
concerned parent wrote:
<quoted text>
What about the school? Is it a fraud as well? Are the children getting the best education there?
change of heart

Edmonton, Canada

#64 Jun 17, 2014
More of us (people of a changed heart) have seen the LIGHT!!!!!!
But this time the LIGHT of a CHANGED heart towards VCC (victory edmonton) or whatever the new name of VICTORY is!!!! I have been very critical of the church in my comments BEFORE but now I want to APOLOGIZE as I was WRONG about VICTORY and the leadership!!!!!! I thought they would RUN away and I thought they would take your $$$$$$ But they have stayed strong!! And PREACH GRACE!!!! I will 100% support VICTORY!!!! VCC (victory edmonton) has helped more people then I could ever help and I SEE that now!!!!!!!! Let us thank GOD for VICTORY EDMONTON !!!!!!!

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ex Bus Driver for vcc

Edmonton, Canada

#65 Jul 14, 2014
My ?? Why are MORE People Seeing the TRUTH since last July 2013- Present that Switzer's twist your mind with the Prosperity/NEW AGE gospel and that You say things they put in your mind and Yes we seen this since victory started-Present and Maybe Read YES READ your BIBLES and Then you will see the TRUTH YES TRUTH !!!!!!!!!!
change of heart wrote:
More of us (people of a changed heart) have seen the LIGHT!!!!!!
But this time the LIGHT of a CHANGED heart towards VCC (victory edmonton) or whatever the new name of VICTORY is!!!! I have been very critical of the church in my comments BEFORE but now I want to APOLOGIZE as I was WRONG about VICTORY and the leadership!!!!!! I thought they would RUN away and I thought they would take your $$$$$$ But they have stayed strong!! And PREACH GRACE!!!! I will 100% support VICTORY!!!! VCC (victory edmonton) has helped more people then I could ever help and I SEE that now!!!!!!!! Let us thank GOD for VICTORY EDMONTON !!!!!!!

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ex Usher for vcc

Edmonton, Canada

#66 Jul 16, 2014
But ????? VCC they are still here STILL helping edmonton people in NEED YES IN NEED!!!!! WHY has vcc not GONE left us for good ????? WHY do they still help WHY are they still HERE to help us They have not quit They Have not given Up I Respect vcc My Change of HEART is divided !!!!!

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Wreaking Ball GUY

Fresno, CA

#68 Jul 24, 2014
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Speaking TRUTH in love

Westlock, Canada

#69 Sep 8, 2014
Well another Staff Member gone and she was the Assistant Principal and She was there for a long time but she can tell you about it in Person and her name was Tammy Arends and lots of her Friends say it was Hurtful what they did to her ( Calvin/Janis Switzer and victory Edmonton ) and we are PRAYING that more Staff/Members/Non and even the Young Adults of the Switzers William Robert ( Rock "nick name " ),Hunter-Hannah and Taylor-Ruth Wakes-Up from christian DREAMS and sees the TRUTH !!!!!!!!

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