At MSU, It was all about the revenue

At MSU, It was all about the revenue

There are 46 comments on the Charleston Gazette story from Mar 31, 2012, titled At MSU, It was all about the revenue. In it, Charleston Gazette reports that:

CHARLESTON, W.Va. --- Officials at Mountain State University in Beckley have systematically pursued an "enrollment at all costs" strategy to funnel thousands of students and millions of dollars in state and federal assistance to the struggling private school, according to former recruiters and program directors.

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Yep

Tarboro, NC

#1 Mar 31, 2012
Yep it is all about the money. Water-down degrees while the top admins make well above what is reasonable for a school.
Gazette Article

Beckley, WV

#2 Mar 31, 2012
I have no respect for the directors and other employees who are still perpetuating a fraud.

These people should be shamed in the public.
Karma

Tarboro, NC

#3 Mar 31, 2012
Loved seeing the comments of previous employees. This is what happens when you fire people ruthlessly. This practice is now coming home to roost and biting MSU in the a$$. I think more previously fired employees should come forward and speak of the pressures they endured while working at MSU. There are many out in the public who know the secrets of MSU. It is only a matter of time before they start spilling the beans. The ones still employed there know just exactly what goes on behind the scenes. Those individuals are guilty of continuing the scam. Ask yourself, is the job really worth it?
Angry

Beckley, WV

#4 Mar 31, 2012
I think they underestimated the people who they have walking around mad as helll!!!!!!!!!!
Gazette Article Today

Beckley, WV

#5 Apr 1, 2012
Amazing. Dr. Mays please save us!

http://wvgazette.com/News/201203310024
Kay Ericson

Beckley, WV

#6 Apr 1, 2012
Just this semester the PA students suffered another major tuition increase. Debra Campbell, Director has insulted the class with inferior instructors time and time again. Like her temper tantrum on a board certified Pediatrician who didn't teach to her liking, so she got a guy who never worked a day in pediatrics to teach a class that he knew nothing about. She later used him to teach radiology, yet he knew nothing about PET scans or MRI. The student's GPA suffered. Can you believe the PA Medical Director, Dr. Poling allowed this to happen? I can. The PA class lives in an atmosphere of tyranny and are treated like scum. Each class brings in over $1,000,000 a year in revenue, and are taught in a cramped classroom that was designed for second graders.( there are 3 classes of PAs going on at a time). The senior class is out doing rotations, and hardly at the school, yet MSU collects FULL tuition for them, while outsiders teach them for FREE. 3 mil a year revenue from PA students, and the faculty sucks!!! The adjunct faculty is treated like shit and payed poorly. Preceptors aren't even given a simple thank-you.. Maybe the new PA program at UNC and now the newest one at West Liberty will force Ms. Campbell and her office cronies to wake up and start treating students with the respect they deserve.
MSU is Stupid

Tarboro, NC

#7 Apr 1, 2012
"Our enrollment representatives are assessed based on a number of measures, including product knowledge, customer service, how well and how timely they interact with their students who have inquired about and/or applied to MSU," said Wessels.

He said recruiters were fired based on their job performance.

Hey Andrew Wessels why don't you explain the specifics of the fired recruiters job performance. Was it because they could not recruit enough students? Why don't you explain how far MSU will go just to get those students.
Wheeler

Beckley, WV

#9 Apr 1, 2012
Andrew Wheeler and Annie Cardel. You should ask them about this!
MSU is Stupid wrote:
"Our enrollment representatives are assessed based on a number of measures, including product knowledge, customer service, how well and how timely they interact with their students who have inquired about and/or applied to MSU," said Wessels.
He said recruiters were fired based on their job performance.
Hey Andrew Wessels why don't you explain the specifics of the fired recruiters job performance. Was it because they could not recruit enough students? Why don't you explain how far MSU will go just to get those students.
is it true

Oak Hill, WV

#10 Apr 3, 2012
Wheeler wrote:
Andrew Wheeler and Annie Cardel. You should ask them about this!
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Yes ask wheeler and cardell!!!!
Ibelieve yes criminal adm

Beckley, WV

#11 Apr 3, 2012
What do you think? I think the picture is rather clear at this point.

As much as the administration tries to distance themselves with Polk and White they were marching in lock step promoting their agenda.

Horrible, Horrible, Horrible, Horrible.

Out with all of them right NOW.
Charleston Gazette story

Beckley, WV

#12 Apr 3, 2012
Please share this with everyone you know to protect the public from MSU.
Former Student

Lubbock, TX

#14 Apr 4, 2012
I attended MSU, and changed my majors quite a few times. During the time I attened (started in 2005 and been there off and on since then) I would file for finacial aid and federal loans. Well it makes sense that they are so money hungry. All the other schools I have ever attended, I would get my financial aid reimbursement the day class started. With MSU, it was much different. You sign up for classes, they process your financial aid, the money goes to them, they sit on it for 1-3 months, and then, when your semester classes are almost over, that's when you would get your financial aid monies. Imagine, about 4,500 students just on the beckley campus... this does not include online, Orlando, Martinsburg, or any other campus they have.... they are holding money for 3+ months so they can gain interest on money that I AM PAYING INTEREST ON! They told me that they had to disburse money in two payment because of the default rate on the student loans... to me, this is just a bunch of bullS**t!
True

Oak Hill, WV

#15 Apr 4, 2012
The above poster is correct. MSU is the only college in the area that holds students' financial aid refunds beyond the first week or two of classes beginning. Students are awarded this money based on their circumstances. Some need it to pay rent, buy food and gas to commute back & forth to campus, & pay for childcare. MSU keeps this money for around 3 months into the semester before giving it to the student. I've heard rumors that they are making millions per year in interest from this practice. They are creating even yet more hardship for their students by doing this. It should be investigated.
Former Student

Lubbock, TX

#16 Apr 4, 2012
I am glad that I am not the only one that feels this way about the situation. I would have transferred and gotten away only over half of my credits wouldn't transfer to the other school I was looking at. I am almost $40,000 in debt because of this sorry excuse for a school. I am 8 months away from graduation, and 8 months away from getting a THIRD job so I keep my family afloat while paying off my student loans!
corn fed

Parkersburg, WV

#17 Apr 4, 2012
I registered for three classes by independent study and only received credit for the one I could do because the other three instructors would not get back to me. I called and e mailed but no response. One class did not even have a book for. I was told we don't know what to do about it So I failed the class as I did the other two because of the instructors not getting back to me.
Ifinished

Daniels, WV

#18 Apr 4, 2012
I graduated from their nursing program last year. While I had some good instructors, the adminstration left much to be desired. I'm excited that I passed my NCLEX on my first attempt and NCLEX is used statewide - whether you graduate from WVU, Marshall, Wesleyan, etc. - the test and requirements to pass and obtain licensure is the same. The licensing boards will tell what kind of education the student(s) received. I admit, I taught myself a lot to prepare for the test.
Everyonereadthis article

United States

#19 Apr 5, 2012
Please make sure you read teh Gazette article attached to this thread.

Out with them all.
Ifinished wrote:
I graduated from their nursing program last year. While I had some good instructors, the adminstration left much to be desired. I'm excited that I passed my NCLEX on my first attempt and NCLEX is used statewide - whether you graduate from WVU, Marshall, Wesleyan, etc.- the test and requirements to pass and obtain licensure is the same. The licensing boards will tell what kind of education the student(s) received. I admit, I taught myself a lot to prepare for the test.
ifinished

Daniels, WV

#20 Apr 6, 2012
Everyonereadthisarticle wrote:
Please make sure you read teh Gazette article attached to this thread.
Out with them all.
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Yes, I read this article the day it was published. I think the way MSU conducts business is an abolute disgrace. I don't think the professors and such had to do with the downfall.... I strongly blame Polk, his administrative staff, and the Board of Trustees. Where were they when all this happened? In a cave???? Also, the lies on top of lies is sickening. So many students blatantly and purposefully misled. I hope the school is bought out by someone else so that so many people won't be left unemployed. That school site is indeed good for the economy and is in a great location for so muany people hoping to further their education. It's just a shame MSU can't seem to provide that for them. All I'm saying is, I went to MSU for nursing and I met the standards for the NCLEX that every other person in the entire state has to meet to be granted a license. I don't want my reputation ruined b/c of my school. I want the public to realize that the state mandates what's required to practice in an area of expertise and just b/c someone graduates doesn't mean they'll get to practice in that area - they may not pass their licensing exam and never be able to use that degree and vice versa. Please don't think I'm taking up for MSU. After my personal dealings with the place, I wouldn't send my dog there. But I'm gonna be a kick ass RN.
WTF

Charleston, WV

#21 Apr 6, 2012
It must be all about the money, because my best friend is a physician, having graduated the Marshall med school. But here's the funny thing: He never had to take pre-med to do it.
Get Real

Oak Hill, WV

#22 Apr 6, 2012
You dont have to have an undergrad degree in pre-med to go to medical school & become a doctor. Most doctors actually get their undergrads in biology, chemistry, ect. The 4 years of med school & residency is what prepares you to practice medicine. A degree in basket weaving probably won't get you in, but I'm sure he was well enough prepared considering he graduated and is a M.D. now.

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