Report: Tuition deal benefits Minn. m...

Report: Tuition deal benefits Minn. more than Wis.

There are 2 comments on the Marshfield News-Herald story from Apr 28, 2011, titled Report: Tuition deal benefits Minn. more than Wis.. In it, Marshfield News-Herald reports that:

The more than 40-year-old tuition agreement between Minnesota and Wisconsin has turned into a good financial deal for Minnesota students, while Wisconsin officials are working to reduce the program's cost.

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Minneapolis, MN

#1 Apr 28, 2011
College Education: Another bubble ready to burst!
Aid to college students has increased at well above the rate of inflation over the past few decades. In 1990 the federal government provided $19 billion in grants and loan guarantees. By 2000 that number had climbed to $63 billion. The 2009 federal budget included more than $129 billion in federal assistant to college students, and President Obama’s 2012 budget raises that amount to nearly 167 billion, a $38 billion or 29 percent increase in three years.
It is not unreasonable to observe that once a third party takes partial responsibility for costs, both consumers and providers become a lot more careless about how that money is used.
There are a number of games being played by our colleges and universities to justify rising costs. One is to send out a gazillion brochures to every high school kid who’s even sneezed in the direction of the SAT so as to attract as many applicants as possible. Since there are only so many openings, the school then gets to reject a whole lot of those applicants (and still keep their $50 to $80 application fees) and appear more "exclusive."
The more exclusive they appear, the more they can charge for their services. The current crop of students and their parents have accepted this unquestioningly and have shown a willingness to pay, with help from Uncle Sam, top dollar for what they believe will be a superior education.
Meanwhile, college costs show no sign of moderating and more young people are starting their working lives saddled with significant amounts of debt, only some of which is federally subsidized.
"Cheap" loans lure many young people into higher education despite their lack of serious interest in academic pursuits. That many students are attending college for the wrong reasons is borne out by some disappointing findings: Six-year graduation rates for bachelor’s students is only about 56 percent; college students devote 3.2 hours to education on an average weekday, versus 3.9 hours to "leisure and sports;" and almost half of full-time college students binge drink or abuse drugs, with the incidence of such behaviors rising.
Since these young people still have to repay their loans, whether or not they actually benefit from their time spent in college or complete their degrees, should warrant more caution on the parts of parents, students and institutions.
There are a few colleges that have not joined this circle of folly, and these exceptions help prove the rule. One of them is Grove City College, a small, private liberal arts college in western Pennsylvania. GCC does not accept any money tied to federal funding, including Pell Grants, federally guaranteed student loans and even scholarships. GCC prides itself on being academically rigorous as well as affordable.
For the 2010-11 school year GCC charged students about $21,000 for tuition, room and board. Compare this to the average private college costs of slightly more than $37,000 for the same academic fiscal year. Somehow Grove City is able to provide a quality education without the federal dollar infusion and does it at almost half the average cost.
Government-guaranteed loans and grants distort the true cost of education. If parents and students start refusing to take on excessive debt in order to pay the hyper-inflated tuition rates being fueled by third-party involvement in education financing, we should soon see a downward shift in higher education costs. Wiser consumers could provide the good, sharp pin of which the higher education bubble is in dire need.
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http://www.benningtonbanner.com/opinion/ci_17...
The cost of higher education is inflated.
The estimated preparedness of incoming Freshmen, and their appropriateness for college is inflated.
The grades are inflated.
The self-assessment of the knowledge of graduating students is inflated.
The whole process has become a joke.
Mayor McSpendy

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Apr 28, 2011
Aid to college students has increased at well above the rate of inflation over the past few decades. In 1990 the federal government provided $19 billion in grants and loan guarantees. By 2000 that number had climbed to $63 billion. The 2009 federal budget included more than $129 billion in federal assistant to college students, and President Obama’s 2012 budget raises that amount to nearly 167 billion, a $38 billion or 29 percent increase in three years.

It is not unreasonable to observe that once a third party takes partial responsibility for costs, both consumers and providers become a lot more careless about how that money is used.

There are a number of games being played by our colleges and universities to justify rising costs. One is to send out a gazillion brochures to every high school kid who’s even sneezed in the direction of the SAT so as to attract as many applicants as possible. Since there are only so many openings, the school then gets to reject a whole lot of those applicants (and still keep their $50 to $80 application fees) and appear more "exclusive."

The more exclusive they appear, the more they can charge for their services. The current crop of students and their parents have accepted this unquestioningly and have shown a willingness to pay, with help from Uncle Sam, top dollar for what they believe will be a superior education.

Meanwhile, college costs show no sign of moderating and more young people are starting their working lives saddled with significant amounts of debt, only some of which is federally subsidized.

"Cheap" loans lure many young people into higher education despite their lack of serious interest in academic pursuits. That many students are attending college for the wrong reasons is borne out by some disappointing findings: Six-year graduation rates for bachelor’s students is only about 56 percent; college students devote 3.2 hours to education on an average weekday, versus 3.9 hours to "leisure and sports;" and almost half of full-time college students binge drink or abuse drugs, with the incidence of such behaviors rising.

Since these young people still have to repay their loans, whether or not they actually benefit from their time spent in college or complete their degrees, should warrant more caution on the parts of parents, students and institutions.

There are a few colleges that have not joined this circle of folly, and these exceptions help prove the rule. One of them is Grove City College, a small, private liberal arts college in western Pennsylvania. GCC does not accept any money tied to federal funding, including Pell Grants, federally guaranteed student loans and even scholarships. GCC prides itself on being academically rigorous as well as affordable.

For the 2010-11 school year GCC charged students about $21,000 for tuition, room and board. Compare this to the average private college costs of slightly more than $37,000 for the same academic fiscal year. Somehow Grove City is able to provide a quality education without the federal dollar infusion and does it at almost half the average cost.

Government-guaranteed loans and grants distort the true cost of education. If parents and students start refusing to take on excessive debt in order to pay the hyper-inflated tuition rates being fueled by third-party involvement in education financing, we should soon see a downward shift in higher education costs. Wiser consumers could provide the good, sharp pin of which the higher education bubble is in dire need.

(Excerpt)

http://www.benningtonbanner.com/opinion/ci_17...

The cost of higher education is inflated.

The estimated preparedness of incoming Freshmen, and their appropriateness for college is inflated.

The grades are inflated.

The self-assessment of the knowledge of graduating students is inflated.

The whole process has become a joke.

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