Snakehandling pastor, nine others arrested in undercover sting

There are 44 comments on the WBIR-TV Knoxville story from Jul 16, 2008, titled Snakehandling pastor, nine others arrested in undercover sting. In it, WBIR-TV Knoxville reports that:

The pastor of a Kentucky church that handles snakes in religious rites was among 10 people arrested by wildlife officers in a crackdown on the venomous snake trade.

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bro Glenn

Chattanooga, TN

#1 Jul 16, 2008
welp as always its the lowly pastor who recieves all the ridicule from the press. and no mention of the other 9 names no where to be found. why?
i will agree that maybe buying exotic serpents is probably wrong, but when one handles serpents that are found locally it should not be placed on trial in the average joe blows mind that we are idiots. after all there is the seperation between church and state. also most whom gripe about the snake handlers in general have never opened the revised versions..or other bibles..if they did they would see it written saying "they shall with their hands pick up snakes" now what they gonna do, go on a witch hunt to bring us all down one by one,what about our religeous freedom.. is it just a empty freedom as long as the govt says so.
you Baptist best pick a side or one day they will pass a law saying you are endangering anothers life by submerging them under water.. they might drown you know. and at no time in my 37 years in this belief have i ever seen anyone endangered other than those whom are actively involved in the handling of the snakes. as far as that part goes an out sider is not allowed to be where the snakes are being handled or to dump one out in the floor to see it. also everyone misses the boat as usual about the verses in st. Mark that shows us what believers shall do.. it does not say the snakes wont bite you nor does it say they will not hurt you. it says they shall take up serpents and if (pay attention)(and if) they drink anything poisonious it shall not harm them.
many snake handling churches do not participate in drinking poison because it said "and if" a whole new subject matter. not everyone is required to handle snakes.if God moves you that way. then do as shown. if not, dont touch them.
thats pretty simple i think.and always remember.
never trust everything you read...
SSSSSssss

Palo Alto, CA

#2 Jul 16, 2008
i like snakessss. they make good soup
boogs

Wixom, MI

#3 Jul 17, 2008
bro Glenn wrote:
welp as always its the lowly pastor who recieves all the ridicule from the press. and no mention of the other 9 names no where to be found. why?
i will agree that maybe buying exotic serpents is probably wrong, but when one handles serpents that are found locally it should not be placed on trial in the average joe blows mind that we are idiots. after all there is the seperation between church and state. also most whom gripe about the snake handlers in general have never opened the revised versions..or other bibles..if they did they would see it written saying "they shall with their hands pick up snakes" now what they gonna do, go on a witch hunt to bring us all down one by one,what about our religeous freedom.. is it just a empty freedom as long as the govt says so.
you Baptist best pick a side or one day they will pass a law saying you are endangering anothers life by submerging them under water.. they might drown you know. and at no time in my 37 years in this belief have i ever seen anyone endangered other than those whom are actively involved in the handling of the snakes. as far as that part goes an out sider is not allowed to be where the snakes are being handled or to dump one out in the floor to see it. also everyone misses the boat as usual about the verses in st. Mark that shows us what believers shall do.. it does not say the snakes wont bite you nor does it say they will not hurt you. it says they shall take up serpents and if (pay attention)(and if) they drink anything poisonious it shall not harm them.
many snake handling churches do not participate in drinking poison because it said "and if" a whole new subject matter. not everyone is required to handle snakes.if God moves you that way. then do as shown. if not, dont touch them.
thats pretty simple i think.and always remember.
never trust everything you read...
Perhaps the pastors name was at the top, because he is the leader of the flock.....St. Mark inclusion of a verse stating he will pick up serpents and drink poision, does NOT instruct anyone to intentionally pick up a serpent or intentionally drink poison....the Bible also says you should NOT tempt the Lord your God. The Bible also clearly states you should obey the laws of the land unless that law is against God's Law....God's Law does NOT in any way, shape or form instruct anyone to intentionally pick up a snake or drink poison. God's Law applies to every human being. The Gifts of God do not include picking up serpents or drinking poison. Gift of God are applicable to individuals as he/she is called to do God's will.
Reason

Amelia, OH

#4 Jul 17, 2008
Religion is silly. People are endangering their lives for superstition. NUTS!

Since: Jan 07

Lexington Ky

#5 Jul 18, 2008
Just like everyone say's you can prove/disprove a lot of "I think it means" in the bible.Only thing for sure is all is answered,when you die.How anyone can justify killing another human being on purpose is the proof of that person and their beliefs,for the commandment"Thou shall not kill"is without any except for in it.Why do most preachers not go to war or the chaplain in service not kill? do they hold themselves above others?So a mans belief is his own way, and how he lives it is the proof<fruit> of it.
jake

East Bernstadt, KY

#6 Jul 18, 2008
he must be for the devil to take a cooper head in church or a rattle snake

“Howdy”

Since: Dec 06

Mckenzie, TN

#7 Jul 19, 2008
boogs wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps the pastors name was at the top, because he is the leader of the flock.....St. Mark inclusion of a verse stating he will pick up serpents and drink poision, does NOT instruct anyone to intentionally pick up a serpent or intentionally drink poison....the Bible also says you should NOT tempt the Lord your God. The Bible also clearly states you should obey the laws of the land unless that law is against God's Law....God's Law does NOT in any way, shape or form instruct anyone to intentionally pick up a snake or drink poison. God's Law applies to every human being. The Gifts of God do not include picking up serpents or drinking poison. Gift of God are applicable to individuals as he/she is called to do God's will.
These are the type of weirdos that give Christianity a bad name.

“Howdy”

Since: Dec 06

Mckenzie, TN

#8 Jul 19, 2008
bro Glenn wrote:
welp as always its the lowly pastor who recieves all the ridicule from the press. and no mention of the other 9 names no where to be found. why?
i will agree that maybe buying exotic serpents is probably wrong, but when one handles serpents that are found locally it should not be placed on trial in the average joe blows mind that we are idiots. after all there is the seperation between church and state. also most whom gripe about the snake handlers in general have never opened the revised versions..or other bibles..if they did they would see it written saying "they shall with their hands pick up snakes" now what they gonna do, go on a witch hunt to bring us all down one by one,what about our religeous freedom.. is it just a empty freedom as long as the govt says so.
you Baptist best pick a side or one day they will pass a law saying you are endangering anothers life by submerging them under water.. they might drown you know. and at no time in my 37 years in this belief have i ever seen anyone endangered other than those whom are actively involved in the handling of the snakes. as far as that part goes an out sider is not allowed to be where the snakes are being handled or to dump one out in the floor to see it. also everyone misses the boat as usual about the verses in st. Mark that shows us what believers shall do.. it does not say the snakes wont bite you nor does it say they will not hurt you. it says they shall take up serpents and if (pay attention)(and if) they drink anything poisonious it shall not harm them.
many snake handling churches do not participate in drinking poison because it said "and if" a whole new subject matter. not everyone is required to handle snakes.if God moves you that way. then do as shown. if not, dont touch them.
thats pretty simple i think.and always remember.
never trust everything you read...
You're a very weird dude.
boogs

Wixom, MI

#9 Jul 19, 2008
Rockytopzz wrote:
<quoted text>These are the type of weirdos that give Christianity a bad name.
When I was a kid, I was really curious about a local snake handling church....so a friend and I talked my older brother into taking us there. We went in and sat on the very back pew.....within 2 minutes we heard the "rattles" they sounded verrrrrry close, as the music started (quite good in fact) 2 men came toward the back of the church where we sat. One of them asked my brother to scoot over, he did, and low and behold he pulled a cage out from under the pew, it was filled with rattle snakes. I almost jumped out of my skin, I pulled my feet up under me, as soon as they walked back towards the front.....we all 3 ran out the door. To this day, my mother has no knowledge of us going there. Had my parents known, I'm sure I would have been grounded for at least 20 years.....

“Howdy”

Since: Dec 06

Mckenzie, TN

#10 Jul 19, 2008
boogs wrote:
<quoted text>When I was a kid, I was really curious about a local snake handling church....so a friend and I talked my older brother into taking us there. We went in and sat on the very back pew.....within 2 minutes we heard the "rattles" they sounded verrrrrry close, as the music started (quite good in fact) 2 men came toward the back of the church where we sat. One of them asked my brother to scoot over, he did, and low and behold he pulled a cage out from under the pew, it was filled with rattle snakes. I almost jumped out of my skin, I pulled my feet up under me, as soon as they walked back towards the front.....we all 3 ran out the door. To this day, my mother has no knowledge of us going there. Had my parents known, I'm sure I would have been grounded for at least 20 years.....
Not only does it give Christianity a bad name it gives the whole state of Kentucky a bad name. It fits in the mentality of very backward, toothless Kentuckians that a lot of people in other states have for Kentucky and Tennessee.
boogs

Wixom, MI

#11 Jul 19, 2008
Rockytopzz wrote:
<quoted text>Not only does it give Christianity a bad name it gives the whole state of Kentucky a bad name. It fits in the mentality of very backward, toothless Kentuckians that a lot of people in other states have for Kentucky and Tennessee.
You are so right Rocky...My husband told me he thought "The Beverly Hillbilly's" was a window into the life of Hillbilly's throughout the South.....and Northerners, gotta love em...

“Howdy”

Since: Dec 06

Mckenzie, TN

#12 Jul 19, 2008
boogs wrote:
<quoted text> You are so right Rocky...My husband told me he thought "The Beverly Hillbilly's" was a window into the life of Hillbilly's throughout the South.....and Northerners, gotta love em...
I read a few years ago where Hollywood was going to do a remake of the Beverly Hillbillys. The last I heard they didn't do it because the country folk did not want to be portrayed as backwards claiming they have computers in home and are college educated or at least with a high school diploma.

“Howdy”

Since: Dec 06

Mckenzie, TN

#13 Jul 19, 2008
boogs wrote:
<quoted text> You are so right Rocky...My husband told me he thought "The Beverly Hillbilly's" was a window into the life of Hillbilly's throughout the South.....and Northerners, gotta love em...
And also the joke about toothless people in the South, well the only ones I see who are toothless are the ones messing with Meth. I see these people throughout the states.

“Howdy”

Since: Dec 06

Mckenzie, TN

#14 Jul 19, 2008
boogs wrote:
<quoted text> You are so right Rocky...My husband told me he thought "The Beverly Hillbilly's" was a window into the life of Hillbilly's throughout the South.....and Northerners, gotta love em...
I remember living in L.A., California as a very young child and watching the Beverly Hillbillys. Loved it and still do. I was sad when I heard the main man (what was his name?) died a few years ago.
He said before he died that he would not change anything in his life that he lived, that he had fun especially the making of the Beverly Hillbillys. What was his name? It wasn't Jethro or was it. Sometimes my brains don't work.

“Howdy”

Since: Dec 06

Mckenzie, TN

#15 Jul 19, 2008
Boogs, how did we go from snakes to the Beverly Hillbillys? I guess that's how my brains operate, I'm a scatterbrain.

“Howdy”

Since: Dec 06

Mckenzie, TN

#16 Jul 19, 2008
boogs wrote:
<quoted text> You are so right Rocky...My husband told me he thought "The Beverly Hillbilly's" was a window into the life of Hillbilly's throughout the South.....and Northerners, gotta love em...
ooooops, LOL, you're the one that brought it up, LOL.
SNJ

Bjørnevatn, Norway

#17 Jul 19, 2008
Rockytopzz wrote:
<quoted text>These are the type of weirdos that give Christianity a bad name.
This case serves to show that religion can be dangerous, like weapons in wrong hands....
goodgrief

Elizabethtown, KY

#18 Jul 19, 2008
bro Glenn wrote:
welp as always its the lowly pastor who recieves all the ridicule from the press. and no mention of the other 9 names no where to be found. why?
i will agree that maybe buying exotic serpents is probably wrong, but when one handles serpents that are found locally it should not be placed on trial in the average joe blows mind that we are idiots. after all there is the seperation between church and state. also most whom gripe about the snake handlers in general have never opened the revised versions..or other bibles..if they did they would see it written saying "they shall with their hands pick up snakes" now what they gonna do, go on a witch hunt to bring us all down one by one,what about our religeous freedom.. is it just a empty freedom as long as the govt says so.
you Baptist best pick a side or one day they will pass a law saying you are endangering anothers life by submerging them under water.. they might drown you know. and at no time in my 37 years in this belief have i ever seen anyone endangered other than those whom are actively involved in the handling of the snakes. as far as that part goes an out sider is not allowed to be where the snakes are being handled or to dump one out in the floor to see it. also everyone misses the boat as usual about the verses in st. Mark that shows us what believers shall do.. it does not say the snakes wont bite you nor does it say they will not hurt you. it says they shall take up serpents and if (pay attention)(and if) they drink anything poisonious it shall not harm them.
many snake handling churches do not participate in drinking poison because it said "and if" a whole new subject matter. not everyone is required to handle snakes.if God moves you that way. then do as shown. if not, dont touch them.
thats pretty simple i think.and always remember.
never trust everything you read...
what a damn nut case. you're pitiful.
goodgrief

Elizabethtown, KY

#19 Jul 19, 2008
Rockytopzz wrote:
<quoted text>Not only does it give Christianity a bad name it gives the whole state of Kentucky a bad name. It fits in the mentality of very backward, toothless Kentuckians that a lot of people in other states have for Kentucky and Tennessee.
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hea_ora_hea_...

looks like ky and tn almost are in a tie. so until then we have bragging rights.
anon

Milan, TN

#20 Jul 20, 2008
Rockytopzz wrote:
<quoted text>You're a very weird dude.
Hi Rocky. What a topic this it huh? I think it is crazy if people think they can handle snakes and not get bitten. I don't think that passage of the bible is to be taken literally. However many of these backwoods churches do it. Personally I dont' understand their thinking.(Rocky, I never heard from you, what happened?)

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