Did "No. 1" Climate Change Denier Fake His R sum ?

Andy Revkin Sometimes it seems hard to believe how much skepticism still exists about climate change, with the scientific community in near-unanimous agreement that yes, it's happening and yes, it's our fault.

[Earthling-1]

Yet another non story from the alarmist media.

[Earthling-1]

Scraping the barrel comes to mind.

[litesong]

piddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling wrote:

Yet another non story from the alarmist media.

His thoughts to match his math errors, greatest of all topix AGW deniers....... 500 million TIMES.

[litesong]

piddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling wrote:

Scraping the barrel comes to mind.

You say your mind is at the bottom of the barrel?

[WeElectedABunchO fIdiots]

Then there's the new report out that the people responsible for monitoring ocean levels admit to manipulating the dats, adding "depth" to the levels to acount for "global expansion" - that's a new term that is supposed to prove that the oceans are getting deeper, that's why there is no appreciable increase in sea level over the past 40 years....(since they've had the ability to measure it).
So - if you look at the results (sea level monitoring) there has been no appreciable increase and possibly a DECREASE.

[Steve Case]

WeElectedABunchOfIdiots wrote:

Then there's the new report out that the people responsible for monitoring ocean levels admit to manipulating the dats, adding "depth" to the levels to acount for "global expansion" - that's a new term that is supposed to prove that the oceans are getting deeper, that's why there is no appreciable increase in sea level over the past 40 years....(since they've had the ability to measure it).
So - if you look at the results (sea level monitoring) there has been no appreciable increase and possibly a DECREASE.

You must mean this one:

CU Sea Level Research Group
Colorado University

New web site - new sea level release

Page updated: 2011-05-05 Steve Nerem's blog Share

Welcome to the new webpages from the University of Colorado sea level group! We apologize for the
delay in updating our sea level releases, but the transition to these new web pages took longer than
we thought. In addition, we have made many improvements to our data (new orbits, new tide model,
new corrections) which ultimately had little effect on global mean sea level, but brought us up to date
with the latest advances in the field.

One important change in these releases is that we are now adding a correction of 0.3 mm/year due
to Glacial Isostatic Adjustment (GIA), so you may notice that the rate of sea level rise is now 0.3
mm/year higher than earlier releases. This is a correction to account for the fact that the global ocean
basins are getting slightly larger over time as mantle material moves from under the oceans into
previously glaciated regions on land. Simply subtract 0.3 mm/year if you prefer to not include the GIA
correction.

You may also note that rate of sea level rise over recent years has been less than the long-term
average. This is believed to be due to the recent La Nina's we have been experiencing, though
research on this is continuing. We will soon add a plot to the web site illustrating this effect.

Let us know if you spot any bugs in the new web pages. Thanks for your interest!

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/new-web-...

[Earthling-1]

Have any sea level rise specialists predicted when the acceleration will begin in ernest?
By 2100.
3.2mm yr = 28.8cm
6,6mm yr = 59.4cm
9.9mm yr = 89.1cm
With no sign of acceleration, we must expect that a sudden spurt will take place at 'some' point in the near future.
To reach 1 metre by 2100, that spurt needs to get started very soon.

[Steve Case]

Every morning now I listen for a giant thunder clap issuing in the new rate of sea level rise that will get us to the one meter mark by 2100. As time goes by, that thunder clap will be louder and louder as the rate needs to increase more dramatically as time goes by. Used to be we had 100 years to get there, now it's only 88 and change.

Well I'm out of here tomorrow morning for a week or so.

[Earthling-1]

Steve Case wrote:

Every morning now I listen for a giant thunder clap issuing in the new rate of sea level rise that will get us to the one meter mark by 2100. As time goes by, that thunder clap will be louder and louder as the rate needs to increase more dramatically as time goes by. Used to be we had 100 years to get there, now it's only 88 and change.
Well I'm out of here tomorrow morning for a week or so.

Don't go too near the water, you never know when it may decide to suddenly rise.
Have a good time, Steve.

[WeElectedABunchO fIdiots]

Earthling-1 wrote:

Have any sea level rise specialists predicted when the acceleration will begin in ernest?
By 2100.
3.2mm yr = 28.8cm
6,6mm yr = 59.4cm
9.9mm yr = 89.1cm
With no sign of acceleration, we must expect that a sudden spurt will take place at 'some' point in the near future.
To reach 1 metre by 2100, that spurt needs to get started very soon.

Had a chance to go back home last week.
Went back to the outcrop of granite in the bay near my old house.
My dad carved our names in the rock in 1964 just above the high tide mark.
Guess what, the high water marks on the rock are now below where it used to be....
Observed data is so much better than computer models that are manipulated by people with an agenda......

[Earthling-1]

WeElectedABunchOfIdiots wrote:

Had a chance to go back home last week.
Went back to the outcrop of granite in the bay near my old house.
My dad carved our names in the rock in 1964 just above the high tide mark.
Guess what, the high water marks on the rock are now below where it used to be....
Observed data is so much better than computer models that are manipulated by people with an agenda......

Your story is similar to many others, this one covers the period from 1841 - 2003:
Tasmanian Sea Levels:
The `Isle of the Dead' Revisited
http://www.john-daly.com/deadisle/index.htm
Alarmists are too busy studying graphs and satellite data to bother popping down to the shoreline to check for themselves.
Nils Axel Mórner did that for 34 years, but was laughed at because he thinks dowsing is possible.

[WeElectedABunchO fIdiots]

Ok - So I grew up on the coast of Massachusettes and now have a home on the coast in New Jersey.
Neither beach/Bay has seen any kind of observed increase in the average tide levels in my 50 plus years.
The alarmists now have to claim that the bottom of the ocean is now bigger so that it can hold more water.....

Of course you realize that can not be proven or disproven my quatitative measurement....

[Earthling-1]

I grew up within spitting distance of the Thames Estuary and I have a photo of my father, taken there around 1920, at high tide.
A year ago, I asked a friend to send me a photo taken at the same spot.
High tide there isn't noticeably higher now than it was 90 years ago.

[WeElectedABunchO fIdiots]

Just reported - the Supreme court just ruled 8-0 against an environmentalists claim that certain companies are giving off excess CO2 in violation of the Clean Air Act.
Sotomyor didn't vote because she had reviewed it when she was in the 2nd circuit.
otherwise it would have been 9-0.
These green loonies that try to circumvent the legal process are the worst.
Had the "environmentalist actually taken up their claim with the EPA, they would have gotten better results.

[Brian_G]

If it's based on consensus, it isn't science. Experimental tests define good theory, what's the most compelling test of man made climate change in the atmosphere? Did you know those nuclear atmospheric blasts in the '40s -'70s only created temporary and local cooling, not climate change.