Perry wrestles with his own health care approach

Aug 22, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Kansas City Star

Texas would be among the biggest beneficiaries of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, standing to gain coverage for nearly 4 million uninsured residents.But Gov.

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The laughing liberal wrote:
Get your Own Insurance if you want it.
Pretty Simple.
No More Entitlement Increases to Sink us like Idiot Obamacare.
And let the poor--including children--DIE?? Ah...the typical evangelical, teabagger approach! But...what about the teabagger protest to healthcare (stirred up by Aetna insurance, by the way)...a protester had a HEART ATTACK while protesting, and guess what...the poor gullible sap had NO HEALTH INSURANCE!!!

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No, but the rest of us are forced to pick up the tab for those who can't afford healthcare. Maybe YOU are one of those people who run to the emergency room if you stub your toe and then tell them you have no money to pay the bill. If you have insurance, as I do, why would you worry about making those who don't be responsible for themselves? Could it be you want to see ALL insurance paid for through big insurance companies that cost everyone a fortune and deny you benefits when you need them?
Been through that just this month. I pay well for my Aetna insurance. My doctor recently ordered a nuclear heart scan for me. Aetna refused to cover it. Who the HELL are they to decide MY health for ME???? Talk about DEATH panels. If I have a heart attack because this test was denied to me do I get the sue the sh*t out of Aetna?
Sit there and cry me a river over "obamacare". If you think these insurance companies raking in billions of dollars of YOUR money every year are doing you, or anyone else, any favors then you need to have your head examined....but your insurance company probably won't cover it.
and if they can't afford it you are still going to have to pay for them. It is a scam and power grab, nothing else.

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<quoted text>And let the poor--including children--DIE?? Ah...the typical evangelical, teabagger approach! But...what about the teabagger protest to healthcare (stirred up by Aetna insurance, by the way)...a protester had a HEART ATTACK while protesting, and guess what...the poor gullible sap had NO HEALTH INSURANCE!!!
We can't pay for you losers the rest of your life.........what did your parents do, I know they didn't teach you to be responsible.
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The rethugs plan for the uninsured--die! Most CIVILIZED countries recognize health care as a basic human right!

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The rethugs plan for the uninsured--die! Most CIVILIZED countries recognize health care as a basic human right!
now explain that most can not afford it any longer and the lines and wait times are getting worse....
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Huge majorities of people who have government health care are very well pleased with it. In hundreds of millions of people, there will always be a few malcontents.

You might recall that Sarah Palin's family slipped across the border into Canada to take advantage of government-provided health care there.

Also, numerous California businesses and government agencies contract with Mexico's public health care service because their employees get better health care at better prices than is provided in the U.S.
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<quoted text>now explain that most can not afford it any longer and the lines and wait times are getting worse....
That is incorrect, as nearly everything you post is.

"The Availability of Affordable Healthcare"

One-fourth of American respondents are either "very" or "somewhat" satisfied with "the availability of affordable healthcare in the nation," (6% very satisfied and 19% somewhat satisfied).

This LEVEL OF SATISFACTION IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN IN CANADA, Canada, where 57% are satisfied with the availability of affordable healthcare, including 16% who are very satisfied. Roughly 4 in 10 Britons are satisfied (43%), but only 7% say they are very satisfied (similar to the percentage very satisfied in the United States).

Looking at the other side of the coin, 44% of AMERICANS ARE VERY DISSATISFIED with the availability of affordable healthcare, and nearly three-fourths (72%) are either somewhat or very dissatisfied.

The 44% in the United States who are very DISSATISFIED with healthcare availability is significantly higher than corresponding figures in either Canada (17%) or Great Britain (25%)."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/8056/Healthcare-Sy...
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"It is a testament to national health systems that people in Canada and Great Britain are significantly more satisfied with availability of affordable healthcare than their American counterparts are."

"In Great Britain, satisfaction with access to affordable healthcare (43%) is consistent with satisfaction with quality (42%).

"In Canada, satisfaction with access to affordable healthcare (57%) is slightly higher than satisfaction with quality (52%).

"But the most dramatic variation in satisfaction with these two facets of the healthcare system occurs in the United States, where only 25% are satisfied with the availability of affordable healthcare, but 48% are satisfied with quality.

"Once again, this dichotomy seems to support the hypothesis that private healthcare encourages high-quality standards, but may be a barrier to access and affordability."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/8056/Healthcare-Sy...

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"It is a testament to national health systems that people in Canada and Great Britain are significantly more satisfied with availability of affordable healthcare than their American counterparts are."
"In Great Britain, satisfaction with access to affordable healthcare (43%) is consistent with satisfaction with quality (42%).
"In Canada, satisfaction with access to affordable healthcare (57%) is slightly higher than satisfaction with quality (52%).
"But the most dramatic variation in satisfaction with these two facets of the healthcare system occurs in the United States, where only 25% are satisfied with the availability of affordable healthcare, but 48% are satisfied with quality.
"Once again, this dichotomy seems to support the hypothesis that private healthcare encourages high-quality standards, but may be a barrier to access and affordability."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/8056/Healthcare-Sy...
Canada is also happier that their unemployment is down to 7% while ours remains close to 20%, and we are much happier with our taxes paid than they are in England. They have been socialised so long they forgot what it was like to have real healthcare.
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How about Australia? They have better health care than either the U.S. or Canada, at half the cost per capita, according to a Harvard University study.

Quality of Care

In an international comparative study of the health care systems in six countries (Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand and the United States), found that "Australia ranks highest on healthy lives, scoring first or second on all of the indicators," although its overall ranking in the study was below the UK and Germany systems, tied with New Zealand's and ABOVE THOSE IN THE U.S. AND CANADA.

Harvard looked at cost differences between Canada and the US a few years ago. They used Canada for comparison as the two countries have similar systems in terms of technology and clinical people resources. Their conclusion was that the primary difference was administrative overhead which accounted for almost all of the gap.

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In 1999, health administration costs totaled at least $294.3 billion in the United States, or $1,059 per capita, as compared with $307 per capita in Canada and about $484 in Australia.

We pay twice as much to administer our health care system as other comparable nations do.

"After exclusions, administration accounted for 31.0 percent of health care expenditures in the United States and 16.7 percent of health care expenditures in Canada."

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How about Australia? They have better health care than either the U.S. or Canada, at half the cost per capita, according to a Harvard University study.
Quality of Care
In an international comparative study of the health care systems in six countries (Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand and the United States), found that "Australia ranks highest on healthy lives, scoring first or second on all of the indicators," although its overall ranking in the study was below the UK and Germany systems, tied with New Zealand's and ABOVE THOSE IN THE U.S. AND CANADA.
Harvard looked at cost differences between Canada and the US a few years ago. They used Canada for comparison as the two countries have similar systems in terms of technology and clinical people resources. Their conclusion was that the primary difference was administrative overhead which accounted for almost all of the gap.
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In 1999, health administration costs totaled at least $294.3 billion in the United States, or $1,059 per capita, as compared with $307 per capita in Canada and about $484 in Australia.
We pay twice as much to administer our health care system as other comparable nations do.
"After exclusions, administration accounted for 31.0 percent of health care expenditures in the United States and 16.7 percent of health care expenditures in Canada."
Apples and organges......America 300 million, Australia 22,500,000, 90% of the Populance live in urban settings, much is unpopulated. Size wise they are 50th in the world. The do appear though to have a unique system of melding private and governemt resources.

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Aug 25, 2011
 
The problem is Texanism -- not Texans

Talking up secession while taking more than $6 billion in stimulus cash from Obama? Pure Texanism in action

In fact, Texas financed $6.4 billion of its $6.6 billion budget shortfall in fiscal years 2010 and 2011 with cash from President Obama's 2009 Recovery Act. On the same day Perry accepted the funds, he set up an online petition titled "No Government Bailouts." Pure Texanism in action.

http://mobile.salon.com/politics/war_room/201...

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