Perry wrestles with his own health ca...

Perry wrestles with his own health care approach

There are 72 comments on the The Kansas City Star story from Aug 22, 2011, titled Perry wrestles with his own health care approach. In it, The Kansas City Star reports that:

Texas would be among the biggest beneficiaries of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, standing to gain coverage for nearly 4 million uninsured residents.But Gov.

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Researcher

Copperas Cove, TX

#21 Aug 22, 2011
dragoon70056 wrote:
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So there we have it. Force people to purchase something in order to benefit YOU.
Hardly. We conservatives say that people who can afford to pay their own health costs should not be paid for by taxpayers.

What we do now is increase costs for everybody else because so many people do not have coverage.

So, for whatever health care they need, they either go to Emergency Rooms, where the cost is about quadruple what it would be in a doctor's office (which adds to everybody else's health care cost). Or they are on Medicaid, which is paid for by taxpayers.

Why are you against people paying for their own health care costs by purchasing insurance?

What is wrong with direct payments, instead of passing it through either government agencies or adding it to everybody else's costs?

BTW, it was Ronald Reagan who signed into law the mandate that people could not be turned away for health care at emergency rooms.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#22 Aug 22, 2011
Gary wrote:
One third of the people of Texas have no health insurance and therefore, no health care.
Serves 'em right, huh Perry?
That'll learn 'em to be poor.



Is that 1/3 Illegal Immigrants?


Dats what I thought you Moron!
Researcher

Copperas Cove, TX

#23 Aug 22, 2011
The laughing liberal wrote:
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Is that 1/3 Illegal Immigrants?
Dats what I thought you Moron!
It was Rick Perry who pushed through his plan

"to expand the Medicare prescription drug program to provide for illegal immigrants."

TIME, August 29, 2011 issue, p. 38

That saves his billionaire backers the inconvenience and expense of providing care for their illegal laborers.

Perry's billionaire backers are what Rick Perry is all about.

He's never had a job in the private sector (unless you count helping out on his father's farm), but has managed to become very rich while working exclusively at government jobs.

Go figure.
Too Many Hypocrites

Riverside, IL

#24 Aug 22, 2011
The laughing liberal wrote:
Get your Own Insurance if you want it.
Pretty Simple.
No More Entitlement Increases to Sink us like Idiot Obamacare.
I hope you mean for Medicare patients too?-- It's not my problem they were too lazy or stupid to plan for their future

Since: May 10

United States

#25 Aug 22, 2011
FLASHBACK: Heritage Touted RomneyCare, Key Elements Of Health Reform Heritage Now Opposes

Heritage On Romney’s Individual Mandate:“Not an unreasonable position, and one that is clearly consistent with conservative values.”[Heritage, 1/28/06]

– Heritage On President Obama’s Individual Mandate:“Both unprecedented and unconstitutional.”[Heritage, 12/9/09]

– Heritage On Romney’s Insurance Exchange: An “innovative mechanism to promote real consumer choice.”[Heritage, 4/20/06]

– Heritage On President Obama’s Insurance Exchange: Creates a “de facto public option” by “grow[ing]” government control over healthcare.”[Heritage, 3/30/10]

– Heritage On Romney’s Medicaid Expansion: Reduced “the total cost to taxpayers” by taking people out of the “uncompensated care pool.”[Heritage, 1/28/06]

– Heritage On President Obama’s Medicaid Expansion: Expands a “broken entitlement program,” providing a “low-quality, poorly functioning program.”[Heritage, 3/30/10]

In fact, in 2007, Heritage again boasted that Romney’s plan is “already showing progress.” That same year, Heritage proudly posted a video of Romney gloating that Heritage officials had supported him in creating “ultimate conservatism” with the Massachusetts health plan.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/04/10/...

Since: May 10

United States

#26 Aug 22, 2011
Researcher wrote:
<quoted text>
Hardly. We conservatives say that people who can afford to pay their own health costs should not be paid for by taxpayers.
What we do now is increase costs for everybody else because so many people do not have coverage.
So, for whatever health care they need, they either go to Emergency Rooms, where the cost is about quadruple what it would be in a doctor's office (which adds to everybody else's health care cost). Or they are on Medicaid, which is paid for by taxpayers.
Why are you against people paying for their own health care costs by purchasing insurance?
What is wrong with direct payments, instead of passing it through either government agencies or adding it to everybody else's costs?
BTW, it was Ronald Reagan who signed into law the mandate that people could not be turned away for health care at emergency rooms.
But Ronnie was a known "liberal" Bud, he had 11 tax increases, one the largest biz tax increase EVER during his 1982 recession, he grew both gov spending and employees, MASSIVELY, triple US debt, took US from the largest creditor to debtor nation in only 7 years AND cut and ran from terrorists!

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#27 Aug 22, 2011
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Yeah, the 2nd coming of George W. Bush-Perry is trying to decide between the Heath Care policy of “If you’re poor: too bad” and “ I could care less about the sick”… the good old compassionate conservative philosophy.
Obama in Close Race Against Romney, Perry, Bachmann, PaulRomney has slight edge over Obama, Bachmann slightly lags
by Frank NewportPRINCETON, NJ -- President Barack Obama is closely matched against each of four possible Republican opponents when registered voters are asked whom they would support if the 2012 presidential election were held today. Mitt Romney leads Obama by two percentage points, 48% to 46%, Rick Perry and Obama are tied at 47%, and Obama edges out Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann by two and four points, respectively.

Since: May 10

United States

#28 Aug 22, 2011
AntiMelting wrote:
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You mean the one that was forced through without being read?
No the one with about 90% Repug amendments in it Bubba!

"Of the 788 amendments filed, 67 came from Democrats and 721 from Republicans.(That disparity drew jeers that Republicans were trying to slow things down. Another explanation may be that they offered so many so they could later claim—as they are now, in fact, claiming—that most of their suggestions went unheeded.) Only 197 amendments were passed in the end—36 from Democrats and 161 from Republicans. And of those 161 GOP amendments, Senate Republicans classify 29 as substantive and 132 as technical."

http://www.slate.com/id/2223023/

Since: May 10

United States

#29 Aug 22, 2011
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> There is a surplus...but it is in the form of IOU'S. As you know. Effective immedietly..all social security monies will be separated from the general fund. Do you agree? Otherwise shut up! Progressives would have ended this if they were not liars. They even took 500 billion from the program. Because of how we live beyond our means, people die in other places. That is the true sadness.
You understand it IS and ALWAYS has been separate right?

Q1. Which political party took Social Security from the independent trust fund and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A1: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

http://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.htm...

And the Dems took $500 billion from the PROVIDERS, the same as the Repugs plan Bubba!
Researcher

Copperas Cove, TX

#30 Aug 22, 2011
Jonny Boy Central Coast wrote:
<quoted text>
But Ronnie was a known "liberal" Bud, he had 11 tax increases, one the largest biz tax increase EVER during his 1982 recession, he grew both gov spending and employees, MASSIVELY, triple US debt, took US from the largest creditor to debtor nation in only 7 years AND cut and ran from terrorists!
Absolutely. The tea partiers who invoke his name have no clue what Reagan actually did.

He told the base anything they wanted to hear and then got busy and did what he thought practical and do-able. Reagan was pragmatic, as Obama is. But Republicans have conveniently forgotten that.

He would be called a RINO and thrown out of today's Republican Party, if tea partiers took the time to inform themselves, instead of just trying to use him for their own purposed.
Researcher

Copperas Cove, TX

#31 Aug 22, 2011
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Obama in Close Race Against Romney, Perry, Bachmann,
Jimbo, for God's sake, if you are going to talk about these things, at least get the numbers right.

Aug 22 poll numbers

RCP Average

Obama 43.5
Generic Unnamed Republican 43.0

Obama 49.5
Perry 39.5
Obama by +9.2

Obama 46.7
Romney 44.1
Obama by 2.6

Obama 49.9
Bachmann 39.4
Obama by 10.5

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/...

Since: May 10

United States

#32 Aug 22, 2011
Researcher wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely. The tea partiers who invoke his name have no clue what Reagan actually did.
He told the base anything they wanted to hear and then got busy and did what he thought practical and do-able. Reagan was pragmatic, as Obama is. But Republicans have conveniently forgotten that.
He would be called a RINO and thrown out of today's Republican Party, if tea partiers took the time to inform themselves, instead of just trying to use him for their own purposed.
A good read on Ronnie:

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

http://voxverax.blogspot.com/2011/03/whitewas...

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#33 Aug 22, 2011
Researcher wrote:
<quoted text>
Jimbo, for God's sake, if you are going to talk about these things, at least get the numbers right.
Aug 22 poll numbers
RCP Average
Obama 43.5
Generic Unnamed Republican 43.0
Obama 49.5
Perry 39.5
Obama by +9.2
Obama 46.7
Romney 44.1
Obama by 2.6
Obama 49.9
Bachmann 39.4
Obama by 10.5
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/...
Call us when you have a sorce other than an George Soros propagand site..........what else ya got sparky.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#34 Aug 22, 2011
Jonny Boy Central Coast wrote:
<quoted text>
A good read on Ronnie:
The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan
A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.
http://voxverax.blogspot.com/2011/03/whitewas...
PLAYTIME: Obama tees it up, hits the beach...luxury and waste……….meanwhile back in the real world……… Family found living in trash-filled car at WALMART......a president for all people……….hardly.

ROAST BEEF: Dines with MSNBCNBCNBCCOMCAST CEO...

Reading list heavy on fiction...must be his old speeches……..

REVEALED: Wall St Aristocracy Got $1.2 Trillion in Fed's SECRET Loans...

REPORT: New draft constitution holds Sharia as 'Principal Source'...

U.S. confidence hits new low...
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#35 Aug 22, 2011
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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The bill requires purchase of health insurance. Many companies across the USA have said they'll just pay the fine. It's hilarious how the far left maniuplates the KC Star's liberal views to suit it's propaganda. However, once the SC declares the forcing of Americans to buy something is unconstituional as other courts have already said, then that won't be a problem. But meanwhile, let's single out Perry and Texas since he's a republican running for President. You must come up with all the bullshit propaganda possible as you have since 2000.
What about the automobile liability insurance mandate?
Millions of Americans are forced to buy that if they want to drive legally..
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#36 Aug 22, 2011
Jonny Boy Central Coast wrote:
<quoted text>
A good read on Ronnie:
The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan
A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.
http://voxverax.blogspot.com/2011/03/whitewas...
No wonder. From the standpoint of the average American (as opposed to the rich and super-rich Reagan worked for) Reagan was one of the most ineffective presidents we have ever had.

His popularity started going up shorty after he died.
politics-all politics

Spring Hill, FL

#37 Aug 22, 2011
Oh no .......... not again !

Governor Rick Perry wasn't looking and stepped in a pile of dog poo.
He nearly slipped but an aide grabbed him by the arm and held him steady.
Fortunately the aide had a towel in his back pocket to clean off the Governor's shoes.

Last Friday he stepped on a large wad of bubble gum.
Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#38 Aug 22, 2011
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Call us when you have a sorce other than an George Soros propagand site..........what else ya got sparky.
Real Clear Politics-- which totals and averages all of the major polls of the day-- is a "George Soros propagand[sic] site"???

Real Clear Politics... which FOXNEWS uses on it's main POLITICS PAGE to track Presidential Job Approval???

OHHHHHH=kay.... Sparky.
Deo Vindice

Sacramento, CA

#39 Aug 22, 2011
Hussein Obama's health care is ok if you live where he was born - Kenya.

The skinny islamofascist African warlord is a wannabe dictator.
Chicago Guy

Winnetka, IL

#40 Aug 22, 2011
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>PLAYTIME: Obama tees it up, hits the beach...luxury and waste……….meanwhile back in the real world……… Family found living in trash-filled car at WALMART......a president for all people……….hardly.
ROAST BEEF: Dines with MSNBCNBCNBCCOMCAST CEO...
Reading list heavy on fiction...must be his old speeches……..
REVEALED: Wall St Aristocracy Got $1.2 Trillion in Fed's SECRET Loans...
REPORT: New draft constitution holds Sharia as 'Principal Source'...
U.S. confidence hits new low...
Yeah, WHEN is Obama going to introduce that New Constitution, based on Sharia Law???

I mean, what does he think the American people are... total morons?!?!

We want Congress to overthrow the Constitution and institute Sharia Law NOW. Considering the friendly vibe in Congress these days, it should be a cinch to pass!

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