Churches of Christ drop isolationist view, work with other faiths

There are 16 comments on the Jan 31, 2010, Tennessean.com story titled Churches of Christ drop isolationist view, work with other faiths. In it, Tennessean.com reports that:

When he was growing up, Doug Sanders learned there were two kinds of people in the world.

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lefty

Franklin, TN

#1 Feb 6, 2010
Whether you agree or disagee, I went to David Lipscomb, I had classes under Doug's grandfather and he and other at Lipscomb led me to a study of the Bible I never had as a younger man. I have the all the respect for all Believers, especifically when they can show me in the Word how to find, and live the Believers life. I didn't attend church at all as a youngster, so when I read and hear of all the arguments, I can't believe that we can act in such a way as we do and condemn other. I did not say I agree with a lot of what many churches teach, but I must always show respect and love to all. I very much enjoyed the article in the Nashville paper and I intend to go and renew a lot of ole memories at this congregation. I thank the people in my life that has had a hand in leading me to my Savior and Eternal Heavenl Father.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#2 May 5, 2010
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know the truth

john 8:31-32
Lipscomb Alumni 89

Hendersonville, TN

#3 May 31, 2010
http://www.biblebelievers.com/david_martin/ma...
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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know the truth
john 8:31-32

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#4 May 31, 2010
Lipscomb Alumni 89 wrote:
http://www.biblebelievers.com/ david_martin/martin_church-chr ist.html
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http://www.deusvitae.com/faith/responses/bapt...

No problem. ;)

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#5 May 31, 2010
Lipscomb Alumni 89

Hendersonville, TN

#6 May 31, 2010
HEATH - 72 wrote:
I minored in Bible at Lipcomb up until my senior year. I grew tired of the arrogant attitudes like Dr. Connelly and others who are in the Churches of Christ. On the other hand I met some wonderful people at Lipscomb University who I enjoyed talking to about the differences but they did not ridicule other's interpretations of the scriptures. People like my minor advisor Dr. Mac Lynn and Professor Dr. William Woodson I hold to high regard. They were able to present their case without building a wall of animosity and gave me the freedom to consider their point of view. Also, my years at Lipscomb were great and I am encouraging my children to go there when they reach college age in five years.

My father’s family was Church of Christ and my grandmother had the same we are right and everyone else is going to hell attitude. Main reason they went with the Church of Christ was because one of our family members were the one of the founders of the restoration movement – Burton W Stone. They did not understand what they believed in or why. In your face approach to soul winning like what is on your web page does not accomplish the desire goal in today’s culture environment in America. Being zealous for the Lord is what the Lord wants but being arrogant just builds animosity. A more intelligent approach is needed like that of Paul when he presented the Gospel to the Greeks on Mars Hill in Acts 17. Present the Gospel and then show Christ through your life has more effect to an unbeliever than getting in their face with that we are right and you are wrong attitude. Let the Holy Sprit work within the individual. Like it or not, marketing is important even with outreach. A business will not be vital very long if its employees had the same approach to selling its product as some in the Church of Christ conduct outreach. The whole approach is wrong for the culture environment that we now live in. The Church of Christ needs to review the way outreach is conducted since the church is in decline. An article in the Christian Chronicle discusses this decline -http://www.christianchronicle .org/article2158685~Church_in_ America_marked_by_decline.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#7 May 31, 2010
Acts 17 AMEN!

"decline"

Jesus had a "decline" in His ministry.

John 6:66

"In your face approach to soul winning like what is on your web page does not accomplish the desire goal in today’s culture environment in America."

Read Matthew 23. Pretty much IN YOUR FACE.

Truth does not morph to fit culture.

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Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#8 May 31, 2010
Lipscomb Alumni 89 wrote:
<quoted text>
I minored in Bible at Lipcomb up until my senior year. I grew tired of the arrogant attitudes like Dr. Connelly and others who are in the Churches of Christ. On the other hand I met some wonderful people at Lipscomb University who I enjoyed talking to about the differences but they did not ridicule other's interpretations of the scriptures. People like my minor advisor Dr. Mac Lynn and Professor Dr. William Woodson I hold to high regard. They were able to present their case without building a wall of animosity and gave me the freedom to consider their point of view. Also, my years at Lipscomb were great and I am encouraging my children to go there when they reach college age in five years.
My father’s family was Church of Christ and my grandmother had the same we are right and everyone else is going to hell attitude. Main reason they went with the Church of Christ was because one of our family members were the one of the founders of the restoration movement – Burton W Stone. They did not understand what they believed in or why. In your face approach to soul winning like what is on your web page does not accomplish the desire goal in today’s culture environment in America. Being zealous for the Lord is what the Lord wants but being arrogant just builds animosity. A more intelligent approach is needed like that of Paul when he presented the Gospel to the Greeks on Mars Hill in Acts 17. Present the Gospel and then show Christ through your life has more effect to an unbeliever than getting in their face with that we are right and you are wrong attitude. Let the Holy Sprit work within the individual. Like it or not, marketing is important even with outreach. A business will not be vital very long if its employees had the same approach to selling its product as some in the Church of Christ conduct outreach. The whole approach is wrong for the culture environment that we now live in. The Church of Christ needs to review the way outreach is conducted since the church is in decline. An article in the Christian Chronicle discusses this decline -http://www.christianchronicle .org/article2158685~Church_in_ America_marked_by_decline.
I can't hardly keep up with the request I get for our DVDs we offer. Those request come from all over the U.S. and around the world.

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Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#9 May 31, 2010
Let's look at some characteristics of liberals among us. While all of these characteristics may not be present in all liberals, they are representative.

Liberals downplay the necessity of a "thus saith the Lord" for what they do. Scripture is either ignored, excused as being culture or gender biased, or looked upon as being subjective.

Liberals tend to have an ends justify the means attitude. This attitude is evident in the matter of the work and worship of the church. Lavish entertainment schemes are devised to "draw them in so we can teach them later."

Liberals tend to downplay the necessity of baptism for the remission of sins. Some will try to expand their definition of a Christian to anyone who has been immersed. Some of the even more radical among the liberals who claim that even those who have been sprinkled are Christians.

Liberals want to fellowship those who are not in fellowship with God. Men are invited to liberal gatherings who are either denominational preachers or openly fellowship denominations.

Liberals tolerate almost everything, with the exception of faithful brethren who question their false views. They exercise an irenic spirit toward those in denominations, while reacting with hatred toward conservative brethren. They often get mad when asked to justify their unscriptural actions. Those who object are called "right wingers”“legalist” "traditionalists," "radicals," "hide bound," and "moss backed," among other things.

Liberals do not believe in the distinctiveness of the church. They are constantly talking about "the yellow pages church of Christ" and talk about "our fellowship" and "our heritage." They seek to expand the church to include many who have never even obeyed the gospel.

Liberals laugh about the "restoration plea" They believe that it is impossible to restore New Testament Christianity. They have said, "What church should we restore? Corinth? Ephesus? Laodicea?" They talk about the restoration period as the beginning point for the church of Christ.

Liberals deny that there is a pattern for the church. To them it doesn't matter how we worship, or how one becomes a Christian, or how the church functions. Many of them will declare that "everything we do in life is worship." With this casting off of the pattern our present day liberals are inching toward the open use of instrumental music in the worship.

Liberals always talk about grace and deny the obedience is necessary for salvation. Instead of holding a biblical view that balance both grace and obedience, they, as a whole, deny the necessity of obedience. Some have even begun to teach "grace only" and "faith only."

These are just a few of the characteristic of the liberals among us. While we could easily give a refutation to each of these areas we need only go to a couple of Scriptures to give us the answer. "Thus says the LORD: "Stand in the ways and see, And ask for the old paths, where the good way is, And walk in it; Then you will find rest for your souls. But they said,'We will not walk in it'" (Jeremiah 6:16). ""You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you" (Deuteronomy 4:2).

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Lipscomb Alumni 89

Hendersonville, TN

#10 Jun 1, 2010
Your just proved the point I was making.
HEATH - 72 wrote:
Let's look at some characteristics of liberals among us. While all of these characteristics may not be present in all liberals, they are representative.
Liberals downplay the necessity of a "thus saith the Lord" for what they do. Scripture is either ignored, excused as being culture or gender biased, or looked upon as being subjective.
Liberals tend to have an ends justify the means attitude. This attitude is evident in the matter of the work and worship of the church. Lavish entertainment schemes are devised to "draw them in so we can teach them later."
Liberals tend to downplay the necessity of baptism for the remission of sins. Some will try to expand their definition of a Christian to anyone who has been immersed. Some of the even more radical among the liberals who claim that even those who have been sprinkled are Christians.
Liberals want to fellowship those who are not in fellowship with God. Men are invited to liberal gatherings who are either denominational preachers or openly fellowship denominations.
Liberals tolerate almost everything, with the exception of faithful brethren who question their false views. They exercise an irenic spirit toward those in denominations, while reacting with hatred toward conservative brethren. They often get mad when asked to justify their unscriptural actions. Those who object are called "right wingers”“legalist” "traditionalists," "radicals," "hide bound," and "moss backed," among other things.
Liberals do not believe in the distinctiveness of the church. They are constantly talking about "the yellow pages church of Christ" and talk about "our fellowship" and "our heritage." They seek to expand the church to include many who have never even obeyed the gospel.
Liberals laugh about the "restoration plea" They believe that it is impossible to restore New Testament Christianity. They have said, "What church should we restore? Corinth? Ephesus? Laodicea?" They talk about the restoration period as the beginning point for the church of Christ.
Liberals deny that there is a pattern for the church. To them it doesn't matter how we worship, or how one becomes a Christian, or how the church functions. Many of them will declare that "everything we do in life is worship." With this casting off of the pattern our present day liberals are inching toward the open use of instrumental music in the worship.
Liberals always talk about grace and deny the obedience is necessary for salvation. Instead of holding a biblical view that balance both grace and obedience, they, as a whole, deny the necessity of obedience. Some have even begun to teach "grace only" and "faith only."
These are just a few of the characteristic of the liberals among us. While we could easily give a refutation to each of these areas we need only go to a couple of Scriptures to give us the answer. "Thus says the LORD: "Stand in the ways and see, And ask for the old paths, where the good way is, And walk in it; Then you will find rest for your souls. But they said,'We will not walk in it'" (Jeremiah 6:16). ""You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you" (Deuteronomy 4:2).
www.roysecitycoc.org

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#11 Jun 1, 2010
Lipscomb Alumni 89 wrote:
Your just proved the point I was making.
<quoted text>
Yes, liberals are aptly described here.

Liberal don't fear God, they are guided by their feeeeelings.

2 Tim. 3:16-17

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Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#12 Jun 1, 2010
*CORRECTION

Liberals don't fear God, they are guided by their feeeeelings.
HotJazzFan

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Jun 8, 2010
HEATH - 72 wrote:
*CORRECTION
Liberals don't fear God, they are guided by their feeeeelings.
It's not feelings, it an ability to avoid lables; many of us gather data, research, and draw our own conclusions.

You, on the other hand, are guided by one of many theological entities that govern with fear, not love.

I was raised in the Cult of Christ, I know how creepy and insecure the man in that cult are.

Hey pal, never had a blow job, have you?

You probably think changing diapers is a women's job.

I liberated myself from that caveman mentality and my perspective is so much greater I won't try to describe it to you.

The good news is creepy jesus-freaks like you actually isolate, so the rest of us don't have to hear your hate and discrimination.

Get laid, bitch. Try some oral stimulation of that special women, I think you'll be surprised at her reaction.

If you don't please that women in bed, I assure you someone else will.

Won't you come while we stand and sing!

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#14 Jun 8, 2010
HotJazzFan wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not feelings, it an ability to avoid lables; many of us gather data, research, and draw our own conclusions.
You, on the other hand, are guided by one of many theological entities that govern with fear, not love.
I was raised in the Cult of Christ, I know how creepy and insecure the man in that cult are.
Hey pal, never had a blow job, have you?
You probably think changing diapers is a women's job.
I liberated myself from that caveman mentality and my perspective is so much greater I won't try to describe it to you.
The good news is creepy jesus-freaks like you actually isolate, so the rest of us don't have to hear your hate and discrimination.
Get laid, bitch. Try some oral stimulation of that special women, I think you'll be surprised at her reaction.
If you don't please that women in bed, I assure you someone else will.
Won't you come while we stand and sing!
"I liberated myself"

2 Peter 2:19-22
19 While they promise them liberty , they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."

Let us stand and sing!;)

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HotJazzFan

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Jun 8, 2010
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
"I liberated myself"
2 Peter 2:19-22
19 While they promise them liberty , they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
Let us stand and sing!;)
www.roysecitycoc.org
You're creepy. Still live with your mama?

You know what, don't even try try to please a women, I can tell you can't grasp the concept and your heart isn't into pleasing others.

You, freak, how do you explain fossils hundreds and millions of year older than that silly little novel you haunch over?

How do you explain women who exceed men in the workplace?

Tell me how that fictional moses got all species on his little boat.

How do you explaing Native Americans ihabating North America when you crusading ancestors flated ashore? How long had we been here?

Seriously, pay some one to perform orally on you; you will truly see the light.

Mary Winkler's dead husband thinks you're weird.

Tell me about lust. I saw a pretty womens legs today; guess I'll burn.

Oh yeah, hell is fictional. I think I'll hook up with that women while you pray for forgiveness of sins you haven't committed.

Freak.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#16 Jun 8, 2010
HotJazzFan wrote:
<quoted text>
You're creepy. Still live with your mama?
You know what, don't even try try to please a women, I can tell you can't grasp the concept and your heart isn't into pleasing others.
You, freak, how do you explain fossils hundreds and millions of year older than that silly little novel you haunch over?
How do you explain women who exceed men in the workplace?
Tell me how that fictional moses got all species on his little boat.
How do you explaing Native Americans ihabating North America when you crusading ancestors flated ashore? How long had we been here?
Seriously, pay some one to perform orally on you; you will truly see the light.
Mary Winkler's dead husband thinks you're weird.
Tell me about lust. I saw a pretty womens legs today; guess I'll burn.
Oh yeah, hell is fictional. I think I'll hook up with that women while you pray for forgiveness of sins you haven't committed.
Freak.
2 Peter 2:19-22
19 While they promise them liberty , they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."

Let us stand and sing!;)

www.roysecitycoc.org

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