Duh! "Scholars: Church won't be force...

Duh! "Scholars: Church won't be forced to marry gay couples if laws change The Catholic Spirit"

There are 6 comments on the gaynewsblog.net story from Mar 16, 2009, titled Duh! "Scholars: Church won't be forced to marry gay couples if laws change The Catholic Spirit". In it, gaynewsblog.net reports that:

Even if all of the states in the U.S. legalize same-sex marriage, legal experts and religious leaders at a March 13 forum agreed religions will not be forced to perform gay wedding ceremonies.

However, they also indicated legalizing same-sex marriage could impact other activities away from the altar.

One of the biggest misconceptions in the same-sex marriage debate is that religious clergy may be legally required to perform wedding rites for gay couples in a church sanctuary, said a group of legal scholars, religious leaders, and advocates and opponents of gay marriage at a discussion on the topic at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

This misconception has been perpetuated in advertisements by some same-sex marriage opponents in states where the issue has been debated, several members of the panel said.

The concern isn't that a church would have to allow same-sex weddings to take place in its buildings or that clergy would be stripped of the authority to witness marriages if they refuse to perform a same-sex wedding ceremony, said Robin Wilson, a professor at the Washington and Lee University School of Law in Lexington, Va.

The U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protecting the free exercise of religion makes it unlikely that a church would be coerced by law into performing same-sex wedding rites in its sanctuary, said David Blankenhorn, president of the Institute for American Values.

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Lilllith

Portland, OR

#1 Mar 16, 2009
DUH, is right! Just as each religion has it's own core of beliefs, each religion will decide for itself whether their canon recognizes the right of same sex couples to engage in the holy sacrament of marriuage as spelled out in their laws.

All that defeating Prop H8 does, is allow each religion to then petition the civil courts to allow their congregants to apply for a marriage certificate after undergoing a marriage ceremony in their church.

Churches that do not perform same sex marriages will obviously not need a certificate for those non-existant congregants. Churches that do perform seam sex marriages will. And people that choose to not be married in a religious ceremony, like heterosexual couples, will simply petition the government to both perform and recognize their secular unions.

All of this brouhaha is so much ado about anothing, and always has been. just another case of hysteria by the right wing, like WMD's and terrorist cells all over the country. Those people are f****g crazy as hell, and completely irrational.

Daniel P from Long Island

“Protestant, Gay, Libertarian”

Since: Apr 08

Long Island, NY

#2 Mar 16, 2009
Lilllith wrote:
DUH, is right! Just as each religion has it's own core of beliefs, each religion will decide for itself whether their canon recognizes the right of same sex couples to engage in the holy sacrament of marriuage as spelled out in their laws.
All that defeating Prop H8 does, is allow each religion to then petition the civil courts to allow their congregants to apply for a marriage certificate after undergoing a marriage ceremony in their church.
Churches that do not perform same sex marriages will obviously not need a certificate for those non-existant congregants. Churches that do perform seam sex marriages will. And people that choose to not be married in a religious ceremony, like heterosexual couples, will simply petition the government to both perform and recognize their secular unions.
All of this brouhaha is so much ado about anothing, and always has been. just another case of hysteria by the right wing, like WMD's and terrorist cells all over the country. Those people are f****g crazy as hell, and completely irrational.
They're not crazy. It's a fear-mongering tactic to get their dim-witted followers to oppose EQUAL RIGHTS for gay people, and to get money from them to support these efforts.

It's a perfect example of the "BIG LIE" technique.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#3 Mar 16, 2009
Unfortunately their "Big Lie" technique is VERY effective. Since most of the sheeple are totally and completely ignorant of the law (any law), they are easily swayed by these fearmongers.

And the poor country clerk might have to actually do his job by issuing a marriage license to ALL legally qualified individuals. If your religion prevents you from doing the job you were hired to do, you need to get a new job or get a new religion.......

“Raising money for Prop H8!”

Since: Feb 09

AOL

#4 Mar 16, 2009
The Big Lie technique is especially common from our friends in Salt Lake City.

How can you tell when an elder of the Mormon Church is lying?

His lips are moving.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#5 Mar 16, 2009
I don't know what caterer would want to refuse a same-sex wedding, especially if it's two queens. They are certainly going to spend more per plate than some trailer trash couple!
As for the county clerk business, the argument is ridiculous. Change the words "same-sex marriage" to "interracial marriage" and you can see it is a blatant disregard of the law. If this is a problem for them, they are free to resign their posts.
Kyra

Jordan, MN

#6 Mar 16, 2009
I love how some people manage to think a clerk's right to not hand out and file a piece of paper is more important than people's freedom to marry for love.

I wonder how many obstructionist clerks would be willing to apply that comparison to their own marriage rights?

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