Creation vs. evolution debate at La Sierra University

Apr 11, 2011 Read more: The Press-Enterprise 6

Nearly two years of pressure on La Sierra University to better incorporate Biblical creationism into its biology classes is leading to warnings from key oversight organizations.

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Since: Apr 08

Hobart, IN

#1 Apr 11, 2011
From the article:

"University leaders last month publicly apologized for not adequately emphasizing church teaching in biology classes and promised to do more. A pro-creationist group that gathered more than 6,300 petition signatures critical of the university says some biology professors promote the theory of evolution over Adventist beliefs.

But the pledge wasn't enough for the Adventist Accrediting Association board, which last week declined to extend La Sierra's Adventist church accreditation for a full five years. Instead, the university received a provisional one-year extension, to Dec. 31, 2012, to give the university more time to infuse Adventist religious beliefs into science classes and make other changes."

Wow. Kind of hard to wipe the BATSHlT crazy off this one. "Oh, we're sorry, but our students just aren't dumb enough. We need to find a way to make them even stupider."
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#2 Apr 12, 2011
Creationists should have to tell someone why they believe what they d and be able to proove it 1st, before there is any debate against evolution.

Evolution scientists never try and debate creationism, cause there is nothing scientific to debate. Evolution scientists will defend the science, explain and prove the science, but that's it. They will do everything that creationists can't do, offer facts and evidence.

Even the Dover trial wasn't about evolution vs creationism. It was about proving that Intelligent Design was creationism in disguise, and that they were trying to teach or discredit evolution based on religious beliefs, not science.

Since: Nov 08

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#3 May 8, 2011
Cujo wrote:
Evolution scientists never try and debate creationism, cause there is nothing scientific to debate. Evolution scientists will defend the science, explain and prove the science, but that's it. They will do everything that creationists can't do, offer facts and evidence.
You are obviously mistaken.

Since: Nov 08

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#4 May 8, 2011
Cujo wrote:
Creationists should have to tell someone why they believe what they d and be able to proove it 1st, before there is any debate against evolution.
Here you go: http://everythingimportant.org/genome.pdf

Since: Apr 08

Chicago, IL

#5 May 8, 2011
Sorry Shubee, but BATSHlT crazy fundiot moron creationists do not have standing in these fields.

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Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#6 May 15, 2011
Cujo wrote:
Creationists should have to tell someone why they believe what they d and be able to proove it 1st, before there is any debate against evolution.
Evolution scientists never try and debate creationism, cause there is nothing scientific to debate. Evolution scientists will defend the science, explain and prove the science, but that's it. They will do everything that creationists can't do, offer facts and evidence.
Even the Dover trial wasn't about evolution vs creationism. It was about proving that Intelligent Design was creationism in disguise, and that they were trying to teach or discredit evolution based on religious beliefs, not science.
Well, there have been some debates in the past. They were pretty much pointless as creationists barfed up statements that take time to refute. This is where the "Gish Gallop" came from.

It comes down to this - it's futile to debate creationists because by doing so, it lends credence that their claims are on par with the Theory of Evolution. This would be like a neurosurgeon debating a phrenologist.

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