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Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin

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Americans' attitudes about their economic future are sharply divided by race, with whites significantly less likely than blacks or Hispanics to think they can improve their own standard of living.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2842 Sep 8, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Please don't continue to exploit your ignorance even more. Kind of scary you actually worked as an unregistered nurse. A woman IS pregnant when her fertilized embryo has implanted. She or nature may terminate the pregnancy naturally or artificially. There are books out there that have been dumbed down enough for anyone to grasp.
Here's a little Internet info. just in case you can't pick up a book:
http://www.whattoexpect.com/wom/preconception...
And it says, "While you're busy crossing your fingers and toes at four-weeks pregnant (the time of implantation), it's still too early to test. You may be looking for implantation symptoms to provide you with the first clue to your pregnancy. But how can you tell?"
No doubt you will demonstrate your ignorance again and argue more rather than admitting your mistake and apologizing to the poster.
Exactly what I said. If the fertilized embryo isn't implanted, she's not pregnant.
AnswersRus

Riverton, WY

#2843 Sep 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Unless the fertilized embryo was implanted in the uterus, then the pregnancy was PREVENTED.
Without successful implantation there is no pregnancy; only a fertilized embryo.
What would you know about making babies?
Not much apparently.
AnswersRus

Riverton, WY

#2844 Sep 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly what I said. If the fertilized embryo isn't implanted, she's not pregnant.
You may benefit from rereading what you think is the same. You have made another mistake.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2845 Sep 8, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
What would you know about making babies?
Not much apparently.
Quite a bit actually.

The medical definition of pregnancy is when the fertilized egg is implanted in the uterus.

If implantation does not occur, then the women was never pregnant.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2846 Sep 8, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
You may benefit from rereading what you think is the same. You have made another mistake.
Doesn't matter how many times I re-read it, I'm correct.

Pregnancy doesn't occur until the fertilized egg is implanted.

So preventing implantation prevents pregnancy; just as preventing ovulation prevents pregnancy.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2847 Sep 8, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
What would you know about making babies?
Not much apparently.
Pregnancy is defined as occurring at the time of implantation, because up to that point there is no change in the body. It is only at the time of implantation that hormonal & other biochemical changes occur to support the pregnancy.

If implantation doesn't occur then the woman was no more pregnant that if she swallowed a fertilized egg and later crapped it out.
AnswersRus

Riverton, WY

#2848 Sep 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Pregnancy is defined as occurring at the time of implantation, because up to that point there is no change in the body. It is only at the time of implantation that hormonal & other biochemical changes occur to support the pregnancy.
If implantation doesn't occur then the woman was no more pregnant that if she swallowed a fertilized egg and later crapped it out.
There you go again, arguing over semantics and your personal beliefs, and the "exact" wording.
I just checked three different medical definitions sources. The first sentence from two of them states;
PREGNANCY:
Definition: The period of time from conception to birth.

Yes, they all three mention implantation and the symptoms and changes that occur at that point in a pregnancy. They all three speak of the bodily changes that occur after conception and before implantaion.
So;

I just called a nursing student working on her RN, she looked it up in a fourth source ... the;

Tabers Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary

PREGNANCY:
The condition of a developing embryo or fetus in the body after successful conception.

So how long you going to keep harping that you are right, when three medical definitions defy your claim?
AnswersRus

Riverton, WY

#2849 Sep 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Pregnancy is defined as occurring at the time of implantation, because up to that point there is no change in the body. It is only at the time of implantation that hormonal & other biochemical changes occur to support the pregnancy.
...
Incorrect.
Look it up instead of trying it from memory. There are indeed hormonal changes immediately after the sperm penetrates the egg and before the implantation. The tubes themselves react physically as well. How do you think the egg gets to the womb to facilitate implanting anyway? Magic that is totally unrelated to being pregnant?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2850 Sep 8, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go again, arguing over semantics and your personal beliefs, and the "exact" wording.
I just checked three different medical definitions sources. The first sentence from two of them states;
PREGNANCY:
Definition: The period of time from conception to birth.
Yes, they all three mention implantation and the symptoms and changes that occur at that point in a pregnancy. They all three speak of the bodily changes that occur after conception and before implantaion.
So;
I just called a nursing student working on her RN, she looked it up in a fourth source ... the;
Tabers Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary
PREGNANCY:
The condition of a developing embryo or fetus in the body after successful conception.
So how long you going to keep harping that you are right, when three medical definitions defy your claim?
Until you realize I'm right.
Storm Warning

Baraboo, WI

#2851 Sep 9, 2013
Wrong answer,! Americas strength was her Racial Purity, Kruschevs Boys have been hard at work to bury that, One group of prominent people says they should only marry their kind and that they are better than us they are chosen,want to find out who runs this place just figure out who you cant criticize, American soldier coming home in coffins while gas ai 2.00 a gallon higher than before the war on terror, the real terror is a nation to stupid to rise up when homoland sec goons even feel up miss America.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#2852 Sep 9, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite a bit actually.
The medical definition of pregnancy is when the fertilized egg is implanted in the uterus.
If implantation does not occur, then the women was never pregnant.
You are a liar and a fraud. A woman pregnancy is based upon her last menstrual period because the exact moment of conception is usually not known. That is why the MEDICAL definition of pregnancy begins at that point. Conception is estimated to have happened about two weeks before the missed period. Conception is the very first stage of pregnancy. Sometimes a pregnancy can go wrong such as in an ectopic PREGNANCY. This is an example of a pregnancy that exists before implantation in the uterus.

Some bc pills will abort pregnancies in the earliest form such as after conception, during and after implantation. Since you obviously have no medical knowledge whatsoever, kindly move on because you are dumber than the semen that penetrated your mother's miserable egg.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#2853 Sep 9, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Until you realize I'm right.
Your on going pathology will not change the reality. Please secure at least some basic information about human reproduction. Obviously, you were never an unregistered nurse, a vet tech or involved in hiring anyone. No doubt you have never worked and more than likely live off of a govt subsidy.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2854 Sep 9, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>You are a liar and a fraud. A woman pregnancy is based upon her last menstrual period because the exact moment of conception is usually not known. That is why the MEDICAL definition of pregnancy begins at that point. Conception is estimated to have happened about two weeks before the missed period. Conception is the very first stage of pregnancy. Sometimes a pregnancy can go wrong such as in an ectopic PREGNANCY. This is an example of a pregnancy that exists before implantation in the uterus.
Some bc pills will abort pregnancies in the earliest form such as after conception, during and after implantation. Since you obviously have no medical knowledge whatsoever, kindly move on because you are dumber than the semen that penetrated your mother's miserable egg.
Except of course that's NOT the case.

Yes, the doctors are guessing when pregnancy actually occurs because we currently have no simple test to determine the exact moment when implantation- i.e. pregnancy- has occurred. It is at the time of implantation that pregnancy has officially occurred and the placental tissues begin secreting hCG. That's why we test for hCG to determine if a woman is pregnant.

You can't abort a pregnancy which hasn't yet occurred; by you CAN PREVENT a pregnancy from occurring.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2855 Sep 9, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Your on going pathology will not change the reality. Please secure at least some basic information about human reproduction. Obviously, you were never an unregistered nurse, a vet tech or involved in hiring anyone. No doubt you have never worked and more than likely live off of a govt subsidy.
Ditto.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#2856 Sep 9, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Unless the fertilized embryo was implanted in the uterus, then the pregnancy was PREVENTED.
Without successful implantation there is no pregnancy; only a fertilized embryo.
A fertilized embryo? What does stem cell research have to do with this discussion? In human reproduction, it is called a fertilized egg, concepti, zygote, blastocyst or an embryo but not a fertilized embryo since there are no unfertilized embryos outside of the test tube that I'm aware of. Try as you may to save face but you are wrong again. Pregnancy begins at conception. A woman is 4 weeks pregnant when when she misses her period although she is really only two weeks pregnant since that was most likely the approx. time of conception. No doubt you had no idea some bc pills abort pregnancies. They are hormonal abortions because the pills may cause the uterus to expel or prevent the zygote, blastocyst or embryo from implanting or staying implanted. RU 486 is also a hormonal abortion but it is used when the woman knows she's pregnant.

The failure rate for bc pills vary from the kind of pills they are and the person taking them. Failure rates can range from 1%-10% and sometimes more. Scientists are well aware implantation may very well occur and then shed off as the uterine walls become more hostile towards it's survival. Since the woman has no idea she was even pregnant-no harm, no foul. It's just the manufacturers don't want the hassle from the lunatics.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#2857 Sep 9, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Except of course that's NOT the case.
Yes, the doctors are guessing when pregnancy actually occurs because we currently have no simple test to determine the exact moment when implantation- i.e. pregnancy- has occurred. It is at the time of implantation that pregnancy has officially occurred and the placental tissues begin secreting hCG. That's why we test for hCG to determine if a woman is pregnant.
You can't abort a pregnancy which hasn't yet occurred; by you CAN PREVENT a pregnancy from occurring.
Well at least we all know why you could never hold a job......flaunting your ignorance over and over really is annoying. Current technology can confirm pregnancy earlier today than they did when they used rabbits but that doesn't mean pregnancy is occuring earlier because of modern technology. Pregnancy begins when it begins no matter how soon you know.

Just because doctors can't give the exact date of implantation, doesn't mean the pregnancy doesn't exist. You also failed to mention the doctor will note after the examinatioon, the woman is six weeks pregnant if she has missed her period by two weeks and has a positive pregnancy test. Additionally, some women will test negative several times and STILL be pregnant so your twisted idea that pregnancy is not determined until confirmation of a test is ridiculous. Even blood tests can be wrong.

The beginning of pregnancy is conception which is why the woman's body begins adapting at this time. BC pills may work to prevent fertilization but not always. BC pills may prevent the uterus from thickening to accomodate the blastocyst but not always. The BC pill may abort the pregnancy while the blastocyst is implanting and even AFTER implantation. This varies with the kind of pill the woman is taking, whether she is taking certain meds or food supplements or just the difference in her body chemistry. Most health professionals are aware of how human reproduction works as they are aware no medicine works EXACTLY the same on everyone. Many women have brought in the contents of conception into their obgyn thinking something was wrong with them since they were on the pill only to find out it was an embryo. Please don't express your ignorance further, it hurts my eyes.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#2858 Sep 9, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
<quoted text>
Incorrect.
Look it up instead of trying it from memory. There are indeed hormonal changes immediately after the sperm penetrates the egg and before the implantation. The tubes themselves react physically as well. How do you think the egg gets to the womb to facilitate implanting anyway? Magic that is totally unrelated to being pregnant?
What about ectopic pregnancies? Sheeple isn't very bright.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#2859 Sep 9, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Pregnancy is defined as occurring at the time of implantation, because up to that point there is no change in the body. It is only at the time of implantation that hormonal & other biochemical changes occur to support the pregnancy.
If implantation doesn't occur then the woman was no more pregnant that if she swallowed a fertilized egg and later crapped it out.
Wow, no wonder we have a growing welfare base of stupid people who keep getting pregnant and can't pay their own freight. You should go back to high school health class and begin there because you don't seem to be able to grasp the concepts of reproduction even when they are presented in the most rudimentry way.

The brain chemistry is altered as soon as conception occurs because messages have to be sent to the body to accomodate for the baby. Hormones are getting reved up. The lining of the uterus will have to receive and thicken in order to provide nutrients, cell division, transportation and the process of implanting, etc. Some women can even feel the blastocyst implanting into her womb. She's pregnant, dear heart.

Since many pregnancies are lost in the earliest stages, it's usually safer to wait to 'say' you are pregnant until you are further along. Some say the heartbeat.....others until after the first trimester. Regardless of when you say you are pregnant....it happens at the moment of conception. Smart women will also make sure they prepare their bodies in the preconception phase for the benefit of their babies as well as themselves.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2860 Sep 9, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>A fertilized embryo? What does stem cell research have to do with this discussion? In human reproduction, it is called a fertilized egg, concepti, zygote, blastocyst or an embryo but not a fertilized embryo since there are no unfertilized embryos outside of the test tube that I'm aware of. Try as you may to save face but you are wrong again. Pregnancy begins at conception. A woman is 4 weeks pregnant when when she misses her period although she is really only two weeks pregnant since that was most likely the approx. time of conception. No doubt you had no idea some bc pills abort pregnancies. They are hormonal abortions because the pills may cause the uterus to expel or prevent the zygote, blastocyst or embryo from implanting or staying implanted. RU 486 is also a hormonal abortion but it is used when the woman knows she's pregnant.
The failure rate for bc pills vary from the kind of pills they are and the person taking them. Failure rates can range from 1%-10% and sometimes more. Scientists are well aware implantation may very well occur and then shed off as the uterine walls become more hostile towards it's survival. Since the woman has no idea she was even pregnant-no harm, no foul. It's just the manufacturers don't want the hassle from the lunatics.
Except of course that pregnancy doesn't begin at conception; rather at implantation.

Yes, if you look back you'll notice I mentioned RU-486 as an actual abortion pill because it destroys an implanted embryo.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2861 Sep 9, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text> Well at least we all know why you could never hold a job......flaunting your ignorance over and over really is annoying. Current technology can confirm pregnancy earlier today than they did when they used rabbits but that doesn't mean pregnancy is occuring earlier because of modern technology. Pregnancy begins when it begins no matter how soon you know.
Just because doctors can't give the exact date of implantation, doesn't mean the pregnancy doesn't exist. You also failed to mention the doctor will note after the examinatioon, the woman is six weeks pregnant if she has missed her period by two weeks and has a positive pregnancy test. Additionally, some women will test negative several times and STILL be pregnant so your twisted idea that pregnancy is not determined until confirmation of a test is ridiculous. Even blood tests can be wrong.
The beginning of pregnancy is conception which is why the woman's body begins adapting at this time. BC pills may work to prevent fertilization but not always. BC pills may prevent the uterus from thickening to accomodate the blastocyst but not always. The BC pill may abort the pregnancy while the blastocyst is implanting and even AFTER implantation. This varies with the kind of pill the woman is taking, whether she is taking certain meds or food supplements or just the difference in her body chemistry. Most health professionals are aware of how human reproduction works as they are aware no medicine works EXACTLY the same on everyone. Many women have brought in the contents of conception into their obgyn thinking something was wrong with them since they were on the pill only to find out it was an embryo. Please don't express your ignorance further, it hurts my eyes.
I never said pregnancy doesn't occur until confirmed by a test. I was simply pointing out that the current tests can't pinpoint a the actual date of pregnancy; they can only confirm an existing pregnancy.

Doctors commonly use the date of the last menstrual cycle as the beginning of pregnancy out of simple convenience & consistency. Since women don't ovulate until 11-21 days AFTER the last day of their last menstrual cycle, it's obvious no woman could be pregnant at the end of their last menstrual cycle.

So saying a woman is 6 weeks pregnant because they're 2 weeks late is simply incorrect, whether that's based on fertilization or implantation.

Again, using the date of the last menstrual cycle is simply for convenience & consistency. Just like using 9 months for the length of a pregnancy is out of convenience & consistency, since almost NO woman gives birth at exactly 9 months from the date of implantation.

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