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China Expert: China's Situation Is Like The End Of The Ussr, And No One Wants To Be Gorbachev

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OVERTHROW THE CCP PIGS
#168 Aug 17, 2012
Paid to LIE for the CCP, "RayHole"?

The Dark Side Of Chinese Infrastructure: Empty Highways, Unprofitable Ports And Too Many Airports And Trains


Gus Lubin|November 01, 2011|

( http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcmaster/4790138... )


Ever since the Wemzhou train crash, people have started paying more attention to Chinese economic geographer Lu Dadao.

Lu issued a report last year warning of an unsafe and unsustainable push to build infrastructure around the country.

Here are his latest comments in an interview with Caixin:

First, look at expressway construction. In 2008, the nationwide total mileage plan was adjusted up to 100,000 kilometers. That year alone we built 6,433 kilometers and invested a total 600 billion yuan. Nationwide expressway mileage is expected to grow to a staggering 180,000 kilometers, if we add provincial and national building plans. Personal vehicle traffic levels are too low on some expressways built over the past five years. Considerable stretches of expressways completed in central and western regions are usually empty, simply basking in the sun. Thus, expressway construction has suffered from excessive expansion. It's gotten out of control.


Second, over-expansion for coastal port development planning and construction has clearly led to excessive competition between ports. China's port throughput capacity reached 4 billion tons in 2008, yet coastal communities continue to compete in the race to build large-scale berth and shipping container ports. Every port authority makes lofty claims about becoming a coastal or international hub for commercial shipping.

Additionally, many regional airports are being built blindly, with huge investments but no feasibility studies. This has led to major losses. In 2008, national subsidies to small- and medium-sized airports reached 9.3 billion yuan. But by 2020, we'll have added another 100 or so airports, mainly regional airports. Every year recently, construction has begun on about 20 regional airports, and more are waiting to be approved.

Moreover, there's been a surging wave of railway construction projects, including intercity rail linking big cities, suburbs and small cities in some provinces, regions and municipalities. Our research group found there will not be enough traffic to support the big, city-centered railway transportation systems after they are completed.

Lu blames local governments for starting big infrastructure projects in order to boost production. He says governments will often base a project on long-term demand projections, even though it will be unfeasible in the near-term. Read the full interview at Caixin.

Don't miss: Satellite Pictures Of Chinese Ghost Cities >

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-0...
OVERTHROW THE CCP PIGS

Canada

#169 Aug 17, 2012
Paid to lie for the CCP "RayHole"?

The Dark Side Of Chinese Infrastructure: Empty Highways, Unprofitable Ports And Too Many Airports And Trains


Gus Lubin|November 01, 2011|

( http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcmaster/4790138... )


Ever since the Wemzhou train crash, people have started paying more attention to Chinese economic geographer Lu Dadao.

Lu issued a report last year warning of an unsafe and unsustainable push to build infrastructure around the country.

Here are his latest comments in an interview with Caixin:

First, look at expressway construction. In 2008, the nationwide total mileage plan was adjusted up to 100,000 kilometers. That year alone we built 6,433 kilometers and invested a total 600 billion yuan. Nationwide expressway mileage is expected to grow to a staggering 180,000 kilometers, if we add provincial and national building plans. Personal vehicle traffic levels are too low on some expressways built over the past five years. Considerable stretches of expressways completed in central and western regions are usually empty, simply basking in the sun. Thus, expressway construction has suffered from excessive expansion. It's gotten out of control.


Second, over-expansion for coastal port development planning and construction has clearly led to excessive competition between ports. China's port throughput capacity reached 4 billion tons in 2008, yet coastal communities continue to compete in the race to build large-scale berth and shipping container ports. Every port authority makes lofty claims about becoming a coastal or international hub for commercial shipping.

Additionally, many regional airports are being built blindly, with huge investments but no feasibility studies. This has led to major losses. In 2008, national subsidies to small- and medium-sized airports reached 9.3 billion yuan. But by 2020, we'll have added another 100 or so airports, mainly regional airports. Every year recently, construction has begun on about 20 regional airports, and more are waiting to be approved.

Moreover, there's been a surging wave of railway construction projects, including intercity rail linking big cities, suburbs and small cities in some provinces, regions and municipalities. Our research group found there will not be enough traffic to support the big, city-centered railway transportation systems after they are completed.

Lu blames local governments for starting big infrastructure projects in order to boost production. He says governments will often base a project on long-term demand projections, even though it will be unfeasible in the near-term. Read the full interview at Caixin.

Don't miss: Satellite Pictures Of Chinese Ghost Cities >

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-0...
Snowflake

San Francisco, CA

#171 Aug 25, 2012
Dumb thread, go China and America.
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#173 Sep 4, 2012
Dumb CCP.

Go America!

Chinese Communist Party, you are garbage that belong's on Marx's "ash heap of history". Do us all a favour and put yourself in the garbage where you belong, "comrades".

Now, WHERE'S that ONE ESSENTIAL PATRIOT in China??????
Filmalay

Anonymous Proxy

#174 Sep 8, 2012
Mirolyuba wrote:
Dumb CCP.
Go America!
Chinese Communist Party, you are garbage that belong's on Marx's "ash heap of history". Do us all a favour and put yourself in the garbage where you belong, "comrades".
Now, WHERE'S that ONE ESSENTIAL PATRIOT in China??????
China is 50 years behind on everything an can't catch up with the United States.

It means China have to change everything from her economic to politics and legal systems of government to catch up. Otherwise China will drown herself with her already polluted waters.
Filmalay

Anonymous Proxy

#175 Sep 8, 2012
Mirolyuba wrote:
Dumb CCP.
Go America!
Chinese Communist Party, you are garbage that belong's on Marx's "ash heap of history". Do us all a favour and put yourself in the garbage where you belong, "comrades".
Now, WHERE'S that ONE ESSENTIAL PATRIOT in China??????
You're right. China is a garbage and will always be.

Chinese money is flowing freely from their own banks to U. S. banks. This helps the speedy economic recovery of the U.S.A. and more jobs for Americans.

Go U.S.A.
Filmalay

Anonymous Proxy

#176 Sep 8, 2012
Snowflake wrote:
Dumb thread, go China and America.
It's true. The Disneyenne park is being planted by Chinese farmers with veggies and any cash crops.

Compared with Disneyland in California and Orlando, parks teeming with activity. You can't see patches of corn or veggies inside thee parks.
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#178 Sep 8, 2012
Filmalay wrote:
<quoted text>
It's true. The Disneyenne park is being planted by Chinese farmers with veggies and any cash crops.
Compared with Disneyland in California and Orlando, parks teeming with activity. You can't see patches of corn or veggies inside thee parks.
Disneyland in Hong Kong is full of visitors.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#179 Sep 8, 2012
RayH wrote:
<quoted text>
Disneyland in Hong Kong is full of visitors.
Do they allow dogs?
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#180 Sep 8, 2012
Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Do they allow dogs?
Probably not. I've never seen any dogs there, except maybe Goofy.

How's the drought on your farm this year? Heard 70 % of U.S. states are affected.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#181 Sep 8, 2012
RayH wrote:
<quoted text>
Probably not. I've never seen any dogs there, except maybe Goofy.
How's the drought on your farm this year? Heard 70 % of U.S. states are affected.
Not us. It made the price of everything we grow go way up....so in a weird way, we profited.
MARS NEEDS WOMEN

Brooklyn, NY

#182 Sep 8, 2012
What can Darkies grow?

A-HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#183 Sep 8, 2012
MARS NEEDS WOMEN wrote:
What can Darkies grow?
A-HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
You probably missed this part of our history.....
http://www.angelfire.com/il2/HebrewIsraelites...

Cotton. Us white folk exploited the sh*t out of them in the same way we put the yellow-skinned coolies to work building our railroads for us. That's why we rule the world.
A-HHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
TOO FUNNY

Brooklyn, NY

#184 Sep 8, 2012
"Us white folk"?

You're as dark as the ace of spades, Darkie.

A-HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#186 Sep 12, 2012
Sick how the Chinese Communist Party sends its "wu mao" RACISTS to try and change the topic!

Even the old USSR spin-doctors were never THAT DESPERATE!

I guess the FACTIONAL FIGHTING in the CCP has gotten all of their paid lackeys in a PANIC!
Filmalay

Romania

#188 Sep 14, 2012
Xi Jinping could be the next Gorbachev?

He should move fast before the ship sinks to the bottom of their polluted waters.
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#189 Sep 17, 2012
Maybe that is why he "disappeared" and then made a brief drugged-up appearance for the cameras?

But I doubt any CCP crooks are as decent or as much of a real patriot as Gorbachev was.
Filmalay

France

#190 Sep 17, 2012
MARS NEEDS WOMEN wrote:
What can Darkies grow?
A-HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
Darkies can grow more slums in Brooklyn. Hopefully these slums won't overflow all the way to Manhattan.
RayH

Shenzhen, China

#192 Sep 18, 2012
Filmalay wrote:
<quoted text>
So Xi Jinping disappeared because he's contemplating of becoming the next Gorbachev? If he does what Gorbachev did in the former USSR, the chinks will rejoice for they don't have to fear the CCP-Poliburo anymore. China could then attain her dream of becoming a first world country in the near future. That is if China becomes a democratic country.
We'll see what comes next.
You keep dreaming about the world's largest democracy, India.
Mirolyuba

Port Moody, Canada

#193 Sep 19, 2012
Well, the obvious CCP-BS from the brainless CCP toady "RayHole" only shows how DESPERATELY China NEEDS a Gorbachev, or it risks staying mired in CCP idiocy and corruption for years to come!

Thanks, "RayHole"! You are one USEFUL idiot!

HA HA HA HA HA!

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