States with strict gun laws found to have fewer shooting deaths

Mar 7, 2013 Full story: Reuters 5,070

States that have more laws restricting gun ownership have lower rates of death from shootings, both suicides and homicides, a study by researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University found.

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LBer

Long Beach, CA

#4724 May 8, 2013
Starting to see a pattern - I think that New Mexico Topix Troll has a bad emoticon comment fetish for GunShow1 and anyone who converses with him.

That guy is just too funny!

Whether you agree with GunShow1 or not, you've got to admit he provides mucho interesting info, and actually makes an effort.

The simplistic drivel from the NM Topix Troll on the other hand...

Speaking of info, or in this case a great link:

Obama's fishy election results:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/did-obama-really-w...
torch

Collinsville, VA

#4725 May 8, 2013
BELLEVUE, Wash., Dec. 21 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/-- A ten percent drop in murders during the first six months of this year at a time when gun sales were up dramatically is more proof that there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime, the Second Amendment Foundation said today.

The FBI released data Monday that shows murders dropped by 10 percent from the same period in 2008. Meanwhile, according to data released by the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) shows that during the first six months of this year, gun sales were up. January 2009 background checks rose 28.8 percent over the same month in 2008, February's NICS checks were up 23.3 percent and in March they were up 29.9 percent over March 2008. The trend continued in April, with NICS checks up 30.3 percent, while May showed a slowdown, up only 15.5 percent, and in June they were up 18.1 percent.

"What this shows," said SAF Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb, "is that gun prohibitionists are all wrong when they argue that more guns result in more crime. Firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens are no threat to anyone. Perhaps violent criminals were actually discouraged by all of those gun sales earlier this year, because the media made a point of reporting the booming gun market.

"Anti-gunners," he continued, "have lost another one of their baseless arguments. Millions of Americans bought guns during the first six months of this year, many of them for the first time. Yet with all of those new guns in circulation, coupled with an increased demand for concealed carry licenses around the country, the streets have not been awash in blood, as gun banners repeatedly predict.
EAT THAT LIBERALS
torch

Collinsville, VA

#4726 May 8, 2013
To all anti gun folks, move to mexico where total gun ban would make you feel safer
SORRY TO KNOW THAT YOU LIBS ONLY CAN THANK A GUN FOR YOUR SORRY ASZ TO EVEN SPEAK TODAY

PLEASE MOVE TO ENGLAND OR MEXIHOLE
OR AT LEAST AVERTISE NO GUNS AT YOUR HOME SIGNS IN YOUR LIBERAL FRONT YARDS SO WE THAT ARE ARMED DONT HAVE TO HAND OVER OUR GUN FOR A FEW WEEKS WHILE THERES AN INVESTIGATION ON THE PIECOFSHT HOMEINVADER WHO JUST RAPED AND MURDERED YOUR WIFE IN FRONT OF YOUR COWARD AZS DECIDED TO COME TO THE WRONG HOUSE WHERE WE THAT CARRY ARE.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4727 May 8, 2013
LBer wrote:
Starting to see a pattern - I think that New Mexico Topix Troll has a bad emoticon comment fetish for GunShow1 and anyone who converses with him.
That guy is just too funny!
Whether you agree with GunShow1 or not, you've got to admit he provides mucho interesting info, and actually makes an effort.
The simplistic drivel from the NM Topix Troll on the other hand...
Speaking of info, or in this case a great link:
Obama's fishy election results:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/did-obama-really-w...
Thank you.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#4728 May 9, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The LIE-berals won't be doing ANYTHING after THIS:
"The section which declares that no law shall restrict the right of the people to bear arms, whether in defense of themselves or of the State, was read a second time.
"Mr. RARIDEN said he would like to know from the gentlemen who reported this section whether it was the intention to permit or prohibit the wearing of concealed weapons. He preferred the language of the old Constitution. He would move to strike out the section and insert the corresponding section of the old Constitution.
"Mr. OWEN said he would suggest to the gentleman from Wayne that if he wished to prohibit the carrying of weapons it would be necessary to change the language of the old Constitution. For if it were declared by Constitutional provision that the people should have the right to bear arms, no law of the Legislature could take away that right."
- Dec. 31, 1850, Afternoon Session.[REPORT OF THE DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS OF THE CONVENTION FOR THE REVISION OF THE CONSTITUTION THE STATE OF INDIANA. 1850. VOLUME II. H. FOWLER, OFFICIAL REPORTER TO THE CONVENTION. A.H. BROWN, PRINTER TO THE CONVENTION. INDIANAPOLIS, IND 1850.
That is prima-facie EVIDENCE that CANNOT be refuted. Our governments have ZERO authority over our right to keep and bear arms. ALL 'gun control laws' are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and therefore; NULL and VOID.
The Glenn Beck school of reasoning?

Seeing how the government gives you these rights, your remarks are NULL and VOID.

Poor teabagger.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#4729 May 9, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
They tried that before, and it BACKFIRED BIG TIME. It's what brought organized crime out of the cracks. It's what made the Kennedy clan FILTHY RICH. It's what brought on the first tyrannical 'federal gun control law' in 1934.
Exactly my point. Libbies not only don't understand logic, they can't use logic.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#4730 May 9, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh how original, Gunloons like to compare guns to cars, knifes, forks, scissors, baseball bats, sharks, cigarettes and now alcohol. Anyway, you never heard of Alcoholics Anonymous or Mothers against drunken driving? There are thousands of Drug & Alcohol Rehab Centers across the Nation, perhaps you ought to put on your thinking cap and come up with something a bit closer to reality eh? In the gunloons fantasy world, the 2nd Amendment is hallowed ground and needs to be absolute – NOTHING in this world that is absolute. The 2nd Amendment is nothing more than a bunch of words on a piece of paper put together by a bunch of middle-aged, upper-class white guys some 220 years ago.
I suspect your closet is full of Nazi uniforms. Maybe even some drab grey ones. eh, comrade?
Really

Santa Fe, NM

#4731 May 9, 2013
torch wrote:
BELLEVUE, Wash., Dec. 21 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/--

A ten percent drop in murders during the first six months of this year at a time when gun sales were up dramatically is more proof that there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime, the Second Amendment Foundation said today.
could this group be that stupid? I guess they think you are

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4732 May 9, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
"Let me ask attention
3 Year-Old Boy Shoots And Kills Himself With Concealed Carry-Permitted Uncle’s Gun
by Tommy Christopher | 5:31 pm, May 8th, 2013 » 84 comments

[gun] This spring continues to be a deadly one for children with guns. In Tampa, Florida, three year-old Jadarrius Speights found a 9mm handgun in his uncle’s backpack, apparently shot himself, and died Tuesday night. The uncle, 29 year-old Jeffrey Walker, who authorities say holds a concealed weapons permit, was arrested on charges of culpable negligence.

From The Tampa Bay Times:

The boy, identified by the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office as Jadarrius Speights, was with his mother, father and uncle in Apartment 109 of the Avesta apartments at 13144 N 22nd St., just west of the University of South Florida.

The uncle, Jeffrey D. Walker, 29, had bought the 9mm gun at a gun shop and had left it in a backpack in a bedroom he shared with the boy, said sheriff’s spokeswoman Debbie Carter.

Carter said investigators believe the child found the gun and accidentally shot himself.

Walker was arrested late Tuesday and faces a culpable negligence charge, the Sheriff’s Office said. He holds a concealed weapons permit, authorities said.

The boy’s parents, Jasmine Bell, 21, and Trentin Speights, 22, were in their bedroom at the time of the shooting.

With several other big stories crowding the news cycle, the recent epidemic of child-involved shootings has gotten very little attention from the national media, which took only brief notice of the shooting death of 2 year-old Caroline Sparks last week. The Times also flagged several other shootings this month, in addition to April’s dizzying total. Angela Divin, a Florida 6 year-old, is recovering from being shot in the chest by her 13 year-old brother. In Alabama, an unidentified 4 year-old was shot in the head, possibly by his four year-old cousin, and is in critical condition.

Children are shooting themselves and other children at such a rapid pace, the circumstances are beginning to duplicate themselves. Jadarrius Speights wasn’t even the first child to shoot himself, with a 9mm handgun, which didn’t belong to a parent, that he found in a backpack, this month, or even the first three year-old to do so. Not a week ago, 3 year-old Darrien Nez shot and killed himself with a 9mm that he found in his grandmother’s backpack.

Whatever your position on gun regulation, these stories clearly illustrate that something is wrong, that not enough is being done to prevent children from gaining access to guns. The media can play an important role, if they ever stand up and take notice.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4733 May 9, 2013
torch wrote:
To all anti gun folks, move to mexico where total gun ban would make you feel safer
Ninety percent of Americans support universal background checks.

You leave.

I understand: it is hard to get the state to send you welfare and food stamps when in Mexico, and you already have a client base built up at the rest area you work.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4734 May 9, 2013
torch wrote:
BELLEVUE, Wash., Dec. 21 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/-- A ten percent drop in murders during the first six months of this year at a time when gun sales were up dramatically is more proof that there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime
Nonsense, of course,

If there were no gun ownership, there would be no gun crime.

Not the sharpest tool in the box, eh?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4735 May 9, 2013
LBer wrote:
Whether you agree with GunShow1 or not, you've got to admit he provides mucho interesting info
Do you mean GayDavy has the ability to copy and paste the exact off topic spam across two dozen threads that no one reads, and goes through the extra effort to switch aliases and give us a little GayDavy sock puppet theater?

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#4737 May 9, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nonsense, of course,
If there were no gun ownership, there would be no gun crime.
Not the sharpest tool in the box, eh?
Better tell that to Piers Morgan. He may be misinformed.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#4738 May 9, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
FACTS don't lie, treasonous scum:
...EDITED.....'Gun Control laws' also seem to be providing an impetus for increased firearms sales. Which is hardly what the 'gun control' crowd desired, I'm sure. That is of course, unless they are stock holders in firearms related businesses....
http://gunshowonthenet.blogspot.com/2013/04/u...
You won't get facts from gunnie propaganda sites, of course, but your twist on the firearms sales being linked to gun control is amusing....since it's your own gun company lobbyists in the NRA who are playing the fear card and getting you idiots out there buying more guns and ammunition!

LOL

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#4739 May 9, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>I suspect your closet is full of Nazi uniforms. Maybe even some drab grey ones. eh, comrade?
Um, I think that's YOUR closet you're looking in, gunner...:)

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#4740 May 9, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly my point. Libbies not only don't understand logic, they can't use logic.
We know that logic doesn't involve basing our reasoning on LIES, at least...:)

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#4741 May 9, 2013
Conservatives wonder what would had happened if those kidnapped women in Cleveland had a gun!!!

Liberals change the subject!!!

Liberals say "we can not trust women with guns"!

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#4742 May 9, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
Conservatives wonder what would had happened if those kidnapped women in Cleveland had a gun!!!
Liberals change the subject!!!
Liberals say "we can not trust women with guns"!
Where did you "wonder" that, exactly? What "liberals changed the subject?" Why don't YOU answer the post above, the one with the news story about yet ANOTHER kid in Florida accidentally shooting themselves or someone else?

And why do you invent quotes and claim "liberals" said them, liar?

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#4743 May 9, 2013
If ANYONE should have guns and use them, FYI, it's women. In rape-victimized America, they have a right to protect themselves.

Hell, I'm good with women in the military shooting those who rape or sexually assault them. Or maybe just bring back the good ol' Vietnam-era practice of fragging?

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#4744 May 9, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, I think that's YOUR closet you're looking in, gunner...:)
Oh, look! Another projection!

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