Immigration forum brings lots of peop...

Immigration forum brings lots of people, discussion

There are 16 comments on the ETruth.com story from Jun 24, 2011, titled Immigration forum brings lots of people, discussion. In it, ETruth.com reports that:

Around 400 people met Thursday evening at Goshen High School to tackle an issue dividing communities across the U.S. Goshen's Community Relations Commission organized the evening's immigration forum at Goshen High School with goals to inform, offer a space to share opinions and discuss with civility and mutual respect.

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Reality Check

Jacksonville, FL

#1 Jun 24, 2011
That is the way to go in resolving issues rather than having forums entertaining irrational thinking and hatered.

“George Soros & The Dummy!”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#2 Jun 24, 2011
Well I'm quite surprised that everyone conducted themselves with complete restraint and didn't hurl off derogatory remarks like they do on Topix.

If they held this to counter myths about immigrants, I wonder just how honest they were about the effects illegal immigration has had on our country. It really does need to be discussed without all the anger and hatred; otherwise, we're stepping back in time to the 50's decade. That's not a good thing either.

Since: May 10

Anaheim, CA

#3 Jun 24, 2011
Darth Troll wrote:
Well I'm quite surprised that everyone conducted themselves with complete restraint and didn't hurl off derogatory remarks like they do on Topix.
If they held this to counter myths about immigrants, I wonder just how honest they were about the effects illegal immigration has had on our country. It really does need to be discussed without all the anger and hatred; otherwise, we're stepping back in time to the 50's decade. That's not a good thing either.
Let's put this issue into context. This is the United States of America, which is a sovereign country being invaded by a 3rd world group of citizens from other countries, but yet you urge restraint. There are 10's of millions of these illegal invaders here with ties to a Hispanic groups like la raza, maldef, lulac and such. We the American People paid a staggering 113 billion dollars last year, which is considered a conservative amount alone and you want restraint? I say that there is to much restraint, otherwise things would not be like they are now. Time to take off the restraints and go full steam ahead!! This is the time to take action against la raza and the illegal trash and drive them back across the border where they belong.
AmberDru

Columbus, OH

#4 Jun 24, 2011
As usual there is no mention of a downside of illegal aliens - the term used by the U.S. government- and how they hurt the poorest American worker.

Why is that?

With nearly a 20% unemployment rate why are illegal aliens working here- factories, construction, plumbing, hospitality?

My family does "those jobs".

MISHAWAKA, Ind.- Thirty-six illegal aliens working at a manufacturing plant here were arrested today by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) special agents as part of an ongoing worksite enforcement investigation.
AmberDru

Columbus, OH

#5 Jun 24, 2011
Deportation opens up jobs for Americans...
Janco after the raid.

But for others, the news was a hot lead on a new job.

We asked managers at Janco today how many applicants have come in since Tuesday.
Their reply was the same as it has been to any question we've asked since the raid, "No comment."

Although we couldn’t get an official number, from across the street, we saw a steady stream of applicants -- filing in and out of Janco's human resource office.

Job seekers tell us they're ready and willing to fill the at least 36 spots left vacant as a result of Tuesday’s immigration raid, whatever those jobs may be,”I’m not sure. I just applied for any openings that they had available,” Lisa Alexander tells us after filling out an application

“Anything, whatever they have available, that’s what I’m looking for,” Issac Alexander says of the position he hopes he gets.

While the raid may have created an opportunity for them, some applicants say they feel bad for the arrested workers,“There’s an up and down to it. Its down for them, it’s up for people who don’t have a job right now,” one applicant says. Lisa Alexander adds “people need a job, if they're illegal that’s bad, but they needed a job too.”
AmberDru

Columbus, OH

#6 Jun 24, 2011
“It is both a right and a responsibility of a democratic society to manage immigration so that it serves the national interest.”
- Barbara Jordan

The U.S. admits over 1.1 million legal immigrants every year, more than all other nations combined.

Living in the U.S. is not a human right.
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/v...

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#7 Jun 25, 2011
So, did they discuss how schools are being negatively impacted by the influx if illegals' kids? Did they talk about how illegals never pay their fair share for the services they receive and the entitlements they steal via their "America"-born kids? Did they discuss how illegals disregard zoning laws when they cram five families innto a single-family abode, and park their many vehicles all over the front yard, that is also strewn with garbage? I bet they didn't even scratch the surface of the problems illegals have brought to this country.

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#8 Jun 25, 2011
teddyr4me wrote:
So, did they discuss how schools are being negatively impacted by the influx if illegals' kids? Did they talk about how illegals never pay their fair share for the services they receive and the entitlements they steal via their "America"-born kids? Did they discuss how illegals disregard zoning laws when they cram five families innto a single-family abode, and park their many vehicles all over the front yard, that is also strewn with garbage? I bet they didn't even scratch the surface of the problems illegals have brought to this country.
I bet they did not, I know how the schools are being impacted and I have posted it and data here many times. I have lived near flop houses and seen construction equipment that is not supposed to be on residential properties and landscaping trailers that are not supposed to be on the streets left all over. I have even seen people fight to change zoning so now food trucks can be kept on residential properties if there are no HOAs (and now these trucks are being used for offsite storage as opposed for business). Hoping that we can get that changed back.

I am glad that this is being discussed more and more but people need to go into these meetings and forums with research done as well. The research is out there and has to be made public.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#9 Jun 25, 2011
Biker Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
I bet they did not, I know how the schools are being impacted and I have posted it and data here many times. I have lived near flop houses and seen construction equipment that is not supposed to be on residential properties and landscaping trailers that are not supposed to be on the streets left all over. I have even seen people fight to change zoning so now food trucks can be kept on residential properties if there are no HOAs (and now these trucks are being used for offsite storage as opposed for business). Hoping that we can get that changed back.
I am glad that this is being discussed more and more but people need to go into these meetings and forums with research done as well. The research is out there and has to be made public.
That's a fact!
Jose

Williston, FL

#10 Jun 25, 2011
We will all be legal very soon, no matter what you bigots say!
LMAO

Kansas City, MO

#11 Jun 25, 2011
Jose wrote:
We will all be legal very soon, no matter what you bigots say!
Yes you will be legal very soon, in YOUR country. bye bye

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#12 Jun 25, 2011
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text> Yes you will be legal very soon, in YOUR country. bye bye
LOL, you betcha!

“George Soros & The Dummy!”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#13 Jun 25, 2011
DonMan wrote:
<quoted text>Let's put this issue into context. This is the United States of America, which is a sovereign country being invaded by a 3rd world group of citizens from other countries, but yet you urge restraint. There are 10's of millions of these illegal invaders here with ties to a Hispanic groups like la raza, maldef, lulac and such. We the American People paid a staggering 113 billion dollars last year, which is considered a conservative amount alone and you want restraint? I say that there is to much restraint, otherwise things would not be like they are now. Time to take off the restraints and go full steam ahead!! This is the time to take action against la raza and the illegal trash and drive them back across the border where they belong.
Do you always make it a habit of putting your spin on other people's words? My words specifically were: "Well I'm quite surprised that everyone conducted themselves with complete restraint and didn't hurl off derogatory remarks like they do on Topix." So because I expressed absolute shock that it didn't take a turn for the hateful vitriol that so many town hall meeting or forums take, you just feel free to take the liberty of distorting my words? Really? Because I'm flabbergasted that people from both sides of the issue weren't busy shouting over one another & calling each other every name imaginable, you decided to conclude "but yet you urge restraint"??? Are you for real?

You don't know me from Adam, but you somehow decide you know what my political posturing is? Or is it that you're just unable to deduce what others are saying? I clearly said that I hoped they were being honest as to the toll immigrants (both illegal & legal) are having on our country, and only you decided to conclude that I'm pro "illegal immigration"? You're very full of yourself and full of assumptions.

Next time, might I suggest that if you don't know exactly where someone stands on an issue because it was too vague for your level of comprehension, please do us all a favor and ask instead of assuming things!!!
Sense and Sensibility

Canyon Country, CA

#14 Jun 25, 2011
Darth Troll wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you always make it a habit of putting your spin on other people's words? My words specifically were: "Well I'm quite surprised that everyone conducted themselves with complete restraint and didn't hurl off derogatory remarks like they do on Topix." So because I expressed absolute shock that it didn't take a turn for the hateful vitriol that so many town hall meeting or forums take, you just feel free to take the liberty of distorting my words? Really? Because I'm flabbergasted that people from both sides of the issue weren't busy shouting over one another & calling each other every name imaginable, you decided to conclude "but yet you urge restraint"??? Are you for real?
You don't know me from Adam, but you somehow decide you know what my political posturing is? Or is it that you're just unable to deduce what others are saying? I clearly said that I hoped they were being honest as to the toll immigrants (both illegal & legal) are having on our country, and only you decided to conclude that I'm pro "illegal immigration"? You're very full of yourself and full of assumptions.
Next time, might I suggest that if you don't know exactly where someone stands on an issue because it was too vague for your level of comprehension, please do us all a favor and ask instead of assuming things!!!
Bravo! well said.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#15 Jun 25, 2011
Jose wrote:
We will all be legal very soon, no matter what you bigots say!
You're dreaming and that's the only way it's going to happen.

H.R.2164 is coming 100% E Verify everybody, even illegals who are working under a valid number,“Multiple-Workplace Notification” system."

"Keep in mind that the problem with identity fraud is that illegal aliens are using names, birth dates and Social Security numbers that all match within the federal database. Thus, they slip through the tools listed above.

H.R. 2164 tackles this problem by ordering the Social Security Administration to identify the valid names/numbers that most likely are being used by identity thieves. The process starts by identifying employees with more than one employer reporting income to their Social Security number. Then, it looks for “unusual use patterns,” such as that the employers are in different geographic regions or represent different occupations, and so on.

The SS Administration would send a letter to that name at each address listed on a W-2 form with information on all the jobs that person supposedly is holding (some Social Security numbers are used for hundreds of jobs) and a toll-free number to call if the person is not working for all those employers and so believes he or she is the victim of identity theft.
Once the actual owner of the SS number comes forward and is identified, along with his/her place(s) of employment, that SS number will be locked down as belonging only to the actual owner, and all other employers will be notified to run the persons of that name and number through E-Verify, at which point they will be ordered fired.(All the safeguards for Americans and legal immigrants under E-Verify will be there under this “Multiple-Workplace Notification” system.)"

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/be...
What Would Jesus Say

Atlanta, GA

#16 Jun 25, 2011
spytheweb wrote:
<quoted text>
You're dreaming and that's the only way it's going to happen.
H.R.2164 is coming 100% E Verify everybody, even illegals who are working under a valid number,“Multiple-Workplace Notification” system."
"Keep in mind that the problem with identity fraud is that illegal aliens are using names, birth dates and Social Security numbers that all match within the federal database. Thus, they slip through the tools listed above.
H.R. 2164 tackles this problem by ordering the Social Security Administration to identify the valid names/numbers that most likely are being used by identity thieves. The process starts by identifying employees with more than one employer reporting income to their Social Security number. Then, it looks for “unusual use patterns,” such as that the employers are in different geographic regions or represent different occupations, and so on.
The SS Administration would send a letter to that name at each address listed on a W-2 form with information on all the jobs that person supposedly is holding (some Social Security numbers are used for hundreds of jobs) and a toll-free number to call if the person is not working for all those employers and so believes he or she is the victim of identity theft.
Once the actual owner of the SS number comes forward and is identified, along with his/her place(s) of employment, that SS number will be locked down as belonging only to the actual owner, and all other employers will be notified to run the persons of that name and number through E-Verify, at which point they will be ordered fired.(All the safeguards for Americans and legal immigrants under E-Verify will be there under this “Multiple-Workplace Notification” system.)"
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/be...
Fk you

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