What have unions done for us?

What have unions done for us?

There are 133 comments on the CNN story from Sep 4, 2012, titled What have unions done for us?. In it, CNN reports that:

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TaxNoMore

Trabuco Canyon, CA

#1 Sep 4, 2012
What have unions done for us?

Higher pension contributions will require additional money from taxpayers.

Projected taxpayer contributions for PSERS and SERS will increase from $1.7 billion in 2011-12 to more than $6.2 billion in 2016-17—a 263% increase.

Contributions will continue to rise at a slower pace in the years that follow.

The increase breaks down to more than $1,050 in additional tax payments per household/homeowner.

Unless government spending is reduced elsewhere, this will require significant increases in state and local property taxes.

All projections assume a 7.5% annual rate of return on investments.

Returns less than that—as occurred during recent recessions—will result in higher taxpayer contributions.

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What have unions done for us?
TaxNoMore

Trabuco Canyon, CA

#2 Sep 4, 2012
What have unions done for us?

I'll take the house for $300,000

Let's see 20% down =$60,000

With my excellent credit what would a 30yr cost me on the remaining $240,000?

30 year @ 3.40 =$1064.35 per month + insurance ++

Ahhhh call it $1,100

Taxes on assessed value of $300,000, lets see....looks like about $3,300 per $100,000.

Oh shit!.....$9,999 per year?

Call it $10,000 divided by 12 =$833.33 per month?

The 30 yr loan won't change for 30 years, but that public sector union run city will double the taxes and then reassess for more.

Between Sinnot and Badams my taxes would be higher than my house payment in 2 or 3 years.

Actually, a one mill punch from those two bought and paid for union ass clowns would put it over the top.

Keep your overpriced shit.
have some fun

Wixom, MI

#3 Sep 4, 2012
Moved many jobs out of Erie. That is what the unions have done.
union yes

Erie, PA

#4 Sep 4, 2012
TaxNoMore wrote:
What have unions done for us?
Higher pension contributions will require additional money from taxpayers.
Projected taxpayer contributions for PSERS and SERS will increase from $1.7 billion in 2011-12 to more than $6.2 billion in 2016-17—a 263% increase.
Contributions will continue to rise at a slower pace in the years that follow.
The increase breaks down to more than $1,050 in additional tax payments per household/homeowner.
Unless government spending is reduced elsewhere, this will require significant increases in state and local property taxes.
All projections assume a 7.5% annual rate of return on investments.
Returns less than that—as occurred during recent recessions—will result in higher taxpayer contributions.
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What have unions done for us?
40 hour work week
the weekend
child safety laws
pensions
health care
workplace safety
8 hour workday
minimum wage
paid vacation

The list goes on and on
tim leary

Erie, PA

#6 Sep 4, 2012
Even if you’ve never been a member of a Union, YOU BENEFIT everyday from what Unions have done. Even if you’ve never had kids, called 911, needed the fire or police department: YOU BENEFIT from public workers.

got employer paid/sponsored benefits: like, health care/retirement plan?(even if you pay a share)
thank the Union

got a day or two off every week?
thank the Union

8 hr work day, and paid overtime?
Thank the Union

Workman’s Comp?
Thank the Union

A safe workplace?
Thank the Union

Got an employer who needs a REASON to fire you?
thank the Union

Unemployment benefits?
thank the Union.
union yes

Erie, PA

#7 Sep 4, 2012
Ralph Malph wrote:
<quoted text> And you threw it all away with your unending greed and backing the democrat socialist party that gave you the access card instead of card check. You are nothing but a moron.
Keep telling yourself that republitard. Do you think the right wing republitards give 2 sh$ts about you? All they care about is the 1% which I guarantee you are not.

They love to use those scary words like "socialist" to get the limited brain functioning lemmings like you to get all hot and bothered....they they prey on your gun ownership simplemindset into believing that the scary left want to take away all guns.

You call me a moron but I have a job, work 40 hours a week earn a decent wage, have paid vacations, retirement, and hard earned benefits.

Maybe you are just jealous because you don't
LMAO

Fairview, PA

#9 Sep 4, 2012
Ralph Malph wrote:
<quoted text> And you think the dems care about you? BS All they want is PAC money from your dues and in return renege on their promises and play you like a fool. Your 1% comment is laughable and sad at the same time. The left will indeed take away your guns the first chance they get and will continue to take your freedoms away one by one. The biggest threat to unions is the democrat party and you are indeed a moron for voting democrat.
I have to give it to the Union Lemmings, they really are lazy and greedy, or is it gready?

LMAO!
LMAO

Fairview, PA

#10 Sep 4, 2012
tim leary wrote:
Even if you’ve never been a member of a Union, YOU BENEFIT everyday from what Unions have done. Even if you’ve never had kids, called 911, needed the fire or police department: YOU BENEFIT from public workers.
got employer paid/sponsored benefits: like, health care/retirement plan?(even if you pay a share)
thank the Union
got a day or two off every week?
thank the Union
8 hr work day, and paid overtime?
Thank the Union
Workman’s Comp?
Thank the Union
A safe workplace?
Thank the Union
Got an employer who needs a REASON to fire you?
thank the Union
Unemployment benefits?
thank the Union.
All your stupid points... point to lazy!

So you hate overtime and working hard to get ahead?

And you wonder why welfare is BOOMING under the current IDIOT!

Your mom and dad must be proud!

LMAO!
union yes

Erie, PA

#11 Sep 4, 2012
Ralph Malph wrote:
<quoted text> And you think the dems care about you? BS All they want is PAC money from your dues and in return renege on their promises and play you like a fool. Your 1% comment is laughable and sad at the same time. The left will indeed take away your guns the first chance they get and will continue to take your freedoms away one by one. The biggest threat to unions is the democrat party and you are indeed a moron for voting democrat.
I know that unions work for me. I know that a majority of democrats believe in unionism and what it stands for. I also know that republitards despise workers uniting, and having any say in the wages/benefit aspects of jobs.

The republitards have been trying to scare the lemmings for decades that the big bad left will take away your guns. Can you name one bill that made it to the floor of either the house or senate that proposed taking away your guns....or are you just talking out your a$$?
LMAO

Fairview, PA

#12 Sep 4, 2012
union yes wrote:
<quoted text>
I know that unions work for me. I know that a majority of democrats believe in unionism and what it stands for. I also know that republitards despise workers uniting, and having any say in the wages/benefit aspects of jobs.
The republitards have been trying to scare the lemmings for decades that the big bad left will take away your guns. Can you name one bill that made it to the floor of either the house or senate that proposed taking away your guns....or are you just talking out your a$$?
So lets say you take out a loan and start a business.

Then you hire 2 people to work with you.

Then they hate you because you make more than they do.

So, they form a lazy union and tell you what to do?

Sounds GREAT HUH?

LMAO!

How lazy people can be SO FREAKING DUMBBBBBBB!!
TaxNoMore

Trabuco Canyon, CA

#13 Sep 4, 2012
tim leary wrote:
Even if you’ve never been a member of a Union, YOU BENEFIT everyday from what Unions have done. Even if you’ve never had kids, called 911, needed the fire or police department: YOU BENEFIT from public workers.
got employer paid/sponsored benefits: like, health care/retirement plan?(even if you pay a share)
thank the Union
got a day or two off every week?
thank the Union
8 hr work day, and paid overtime?
Thank the Union
Workman’s Comp?
Thank the Union
A safe workplace?
Thank the Union
Got an employer who needs a REASON to fire you?
thank the Union
Unemployment benefits?
thank the Union.
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These mandates and the regulations that implement them cover many workplace activities for about 10 million employers and 125 million workers.

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#14 Sep 4, 2012
union yes wrote:
<quoted text>
I know that unions work for me. I know that a majority of democrats believe in unionism and what it stands for. I also know that republitards despise workers uniting, and having any say in the wages/benefit aspects of jobs.
The republitards have been trying to scare the lemmings for decades that the big bad left will take away your guns. Can you name one bill that made it to the floor of either the house or senate that proposed taking away your guns....or are you just talking out your a$$?
Uions are a sanctuary for the lazy and incompetent. Members are generally run of the mill and initiative is not high on their to do list. Most do just enough to get by. Some PRIME examples of union workers were caught at a park on their lunch break drinking/doing drugs by a local TV news crew. These were GM/UAW workers. The SAME ones our tax dollars bailed out 3 years ago. While many union people DO pay homage to the Union they are too gulible to question the high salaries Union Bosses give themselves OR question the use of THEIR dues/retirement monies to politicians for campaigns. Normally,this is called bribery. Who audits the Unions books to see about theft? Money laundering?
Truth

Erie, PA

#15 Sep 4, 2012
Unions.. sending work to China since 1980.
rly

Erie, PA

#16 Sep 4, 2012
Truth wrote:
Unions.. sending work to China since 1980.
Well sounds like you want chinese steel and materials in McDowell High School, because thats what they will use.
Jim

Erie, PA

#17 Sep 4, 2012
Proud Union member. pulling in $100,000 a year with overtime. Suck it Tax mo ron!!
Scab

Paterson, NJ

#18 Sep 4, 2012
I've worked both union and nonunion building trades.

It's been my experience that lazy bums get recognized and layed off. It doesn't matter union or nonunion.

Where unions excel are working conditions, efficiency, and all around professionalism. A lot less potheads roaming around with sharp objects.

Where nonunion shops excel are, to put it bluntly, nothing. Wages, benefits, and safety are all pinched to the Nth degree so the owner can pocket a few extra bucks. He is the only one who benefits, not his working poor employees.

Unfortunately, the recent economic free fall has put the ball in the employers court. Highly skilled workers have been forced to work for far less than their worth or not work at all.

With the pending labour crisis our country faces from retirement and death, that trend will reverse itself and the employee will find much better working conditions. Employers will have to cut bigger slices of pie to attract and keep skilled, dependable and reliable employees that grow their businesses.
James

Franklin, PA

#19 Sep 4, 2012
Jim wrote:
Proud Union member. pulling in $100,000 a year with overtime. Suck it Tax mo ron!!
You worthless piece of crap. You suck up the overtime while I and my fellow union brothers wee laid off. You greedy scumbagger pig.
LMAO

Fairview, PA

#20 Sep 4, 2012
CHIRP!
Romney And Ryan 2012

Flora, IN

#21 Sep 4, 2012
Unions for working people are bad. Worker bees should NEVER have access to information,rights,respect,lob bying efforts and concerns on their behalf.

Working class people are losers. America loves winners such as Mitt Romney!

Workers should be looked upon as a necessary evil--a commodity born to be exploited and used as temporary fodder to shore up profits.

We MUST lower the wages of workers in America to be comparable to the wages being paid in Indonesia,Mexico and China.

American workers MUST accept a lower standard of living.

We MUST rid ourselves of the 5 day work week and bring back the days of 60+ hours a week with no overtime 6-7 days a week.

Children should be allowed to work--as young as 5 years old if they're willing.

Safety isn't needed in the workplace. OSHA is an enemy of business and hurts profits.

Profits are the number one priority.

Business NEEDS lobbyists and representation in Washington. Workers should not be allowed any representation.

Unions are bad for business.

Associations and lobbying groups dedicated to the interests of business is good.

In America,it shall be written,the business man is a God!
jim

Irwin, PA

#23 Sep 4, 2012
I'm not in your unskilled toilet plunging union, hillbilly.

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