Is The Nation of Islam a Racist Cult?...

Is The Nation of Islam a Racist Cult? Professor Esposito Says Yes.

There are 937 comments on the www.sullivan-county.com story from Aug 15, 2008, titled Is The Nation of Islam a Racist Cult? Professor Esposito Says Yes. . In it, www.sullivan-county.com reports that:

Quoting Huma Ahmad at www.jannah.org,

"(Islam and) the so called "Nation of Islam'" are two different religions. NOI is more of a political organization...Muslims consider this group to be just one of many cults using the name of Islam for their own gain...The Nation of Islam" is a misnomer; this religion should be called Farrakhanism, after the name of its propagator, Louis Farrakhan...For example, Farakhan followers believe in racism and that the 'black man' was the original man and therefore superior, while in Islam there is no racism and everyone is considered equal in the sight of God...the 'Nation's teachings have little to do with true Islam. There are many groups in America who claim to represent Islam and call their adherents Muslims...In America there are many pseudo-Islamic cults, Farrakhanism being one of them. An honest attitude on the part of such cults should be not to call themselves Muslims and their religion Islam..."

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Since: Mar 08

Minneapolis, MN

#973 Nov 15, 2009
saviorself wrote:
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I thought George Clooney was handling that
He would be just about as effective as Obama is or could be so WTF!
Doby

Sacramento, CA

#974 Nov 15, 2009
Can We Talk wrote:
<quoted text>He would be just about as effective as Obama is or could be so WTF!
I was very pleased to hear you weren't dead. Welcome home.

:-)

Since: Mar 08

Minneapolis, MN

#975 Nov 16, 2009
Doby wrote:
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I was very pleased to hear you weren't dead. Welcome home.
:-)
I know you missed me DOBS but I just don't have the time to waste on your dumbazz anymore. But thanks for the shout out. Now go back and lay under your park bench.
Sinajuavi

United States

#976 Nov 16, 2009
This quickly deteriorated into yet another mindless dittohead attack on "liberals".

I am a leftwing Democrat, a Bobby Kennedy Democrat, liberal to the core, demosocialist, etc.... and y'all are crazy thinking liberals like Islam. What liberal woman especially would tolerate the enslavement of women which is entailed by Islam? What liberal male or female could tolerate the restrictions on freedom of expression? None of us.

Islamic societies are very conservative, really. Nobody interferes with the upper classes sucking in profits, activism against the established order will get you death, and so on... sounds like a conservative wet dream to me.

REAGAN armed, trained and funded al Qaeda and the Taliban... all you conservatives pretending to be anti-Islamicist should consider that FACT. Also it was REAGAN who gave Saddam Hussein the poison gas with which he abused Kurdish civilians and Iranian soldiers (mostly 15-yr-old draftees).

Way to go, conservatives! LOL!!! Bunch of snivelling hypocrites... Charles Martel you're NOT!
PTBW Forever

Prospect, KY

#977 Nov 16, 2009
Sinajuavi wrote:
This quickly deteriorated into yet another mindless dittohead attack on "liberals".
I am a leftwing Democrat, a Bobby Kennedy Democrat, liberal to the core, demosocialist, etc.... and y'all are crazy thinking liberals like Islam. What liberal woman especially would tolerate the enslavement of women which is entailed by Islam? What liberal male or female could tolerate the restrictions on freedom of expression? None of us.
Islamic societies are very conservative, really. Nobody interferes with the upper classes sucking in profits, activism against the established order will get you death, and so on... sounds like a conservative wet dream to me.
REAGAN armed, trained and funded al Qaeda and the Taliban... all you conservatives pretending to be anti-Islamicist should consider that FACT. Also it was REAGAN who gave Saddam Hussein the poison gas with which he abused Kurdish civilians and Iranian soldiers (mostly 15-yr-old draftees).
Way to go, conservatives! LOL!!! Bunch of snivelling hypocrites... Charles Martel you're NOT!
Conservatism is preserving what you have, regardless of what that is. In America's case, preserving this country is an absolute must, the Arabs can be as Liberal as they want with their barbaric religion.
Pere du Champ

United States

#978 Nov 16, 2009
Conservatives wish to preserve everything negative about USA society, including sexism and racism.

Islam is very conservative... not liberal at all, obviously. Of course, like most conservatives, you probably have a limited comprehension of terms such as "liberal", "democracy", and so on...

Liberals want an advanced free nation. Conservatives want corporate hegemony and resistance to all change. Obviously conservatives render society dysfunctional.
Dawn

Chandler, AZ

#979 Nov 16, 2009
Blaqsage wrote:
An attack on the Nation of Islam, is that convenient. The NOI is not the cause it is the affect. Why would any Black man attack an institution that promotes so many positive things with in the Black community?
There are many whites who are beginning to listen to and even though the right guidance of the NOI.
What a COWARD a Black man would have to be to attack one of the strongest voices that stood for the hurt, pain and despair Black people have suffered in America.
Now that thing are a little better how easy it is to look down at the Black Panthers, the NOI and other organizations who would not tolerate the ill treatment inflicted on Black and oppressed people.
NOI racist - Read the history of America and say that with a straight face. There is no history of violence, no lynching white men, no abusing white women, no desecrating Jewish temples, just the demand for Freedom, Justice and Equality and calling a spade a spade.
What a COWARD a Black man must be to side with the oppressor.
And as far as the Orthodox community of Muslims, the ones who sell Black people pork, the ones who sleep with poor Black women, the ones who see the condition of the Black community and have not lifted a hand to help in anyway. To HELL with the Cowardly Blacks and the Hypocrites.
Until our condition is justified and equal to everyone else on the planet, thank Allah for Minister Louis Farrakhan and the Al Sharptons, Jesse Jacksons, Malik Zulu Shabazz and all the other unnamed Freedom Fighters and to Hell with the COWARD!
Go take that to the enemy, I'm sure he is waiting for your report.
I agree with you on that Im not sure how many blacks dont but I was raised up in the NOI so I love the teachings ....Keep kicking down the knowledge
Beatrice

Prospect, KY

#980 Nov 16, 2009
Is the Nation Of Islam racist??? Without a doubt the most ridiculous question ever asked on topix. A Nation Of Islam minister is incapable of making a sermon to his congregation without making hateful anti white comments.
PTBW Forever

Prospect, KY

#981 Nov 16, 2009
Pere du Champ wrote:
Conservatives wish to preserve everything negative about USA society, including sexism and racism.
Islam is very conservative... not liberal at all, obviously. Of course, like most conservatives, you probably have a limited comprehension of terms such as "liberal", "democracy", and so on...
Liberals want an advanced free nation. Conservatives want corporate hegemony and resistance to all change. Obviously conservatives render society dysfunctional.
Liberals want govt. to control everything, that is you all want to take ALL freedom away.

Conservatives want govt. to be limited as much as possible to promote as much freedom as possible but, not enough to destroy civilization.

I am not a Conservative, I don't want limited govt., I want govt. to burn to the ground so people have maximum freedom. Govt. is just another monarchy and the castle in which it presides that causes every problem rather than fixing anything.
Pere du Champ

United States

#982 Nov 16, 2009
That's a lie. Liberals don't want govt to control everything. Lies like that make conservatives worthless to debate... just dismiss them as liars... dangerous liars, because in power they trash the country.

Liberals want the weak protected from the powerful. The ability of the power to abuse the weak with impunity is what conservatives mean by "freedom". Anyone who thinks that fascism coming under the aegis of a corporate logo is preferable to that under a swastika on a flag is very deceived.
Doby

Sacramento, CA

#983 Nov 16, 2009
Can We Talk wrote:
<quoted text>I know you missed me DOBS but I just don't have the time to waste on your dumbazz anymore. But thanks for the shout out. Now go back and lay under your park bench.
You say you have no "time to waste on me" yet here you sit with my picture as your avatar. Uhhhh......OK.

STFU!
PTBW Forever

Prospect, KY

#984 Nov 16, 2009
Pere du Champ wrote:
That's a lie. Liberals don't want govt to control everything. Lies like that make conservatives worthless to debate... just dismiss them as liars... dangerous liars, because in power they trash the country.
Liberals want the weak protected from the powerful. The ability of the power to abuse the weak with impunity is what conservatives mean by "freedom". Anyone who thinks that fascism coming under the aegis of a corporate logo is preferable to that under a swastika on a flag is very deceived.
You have been doing a good job of pushing govt. control over everything so far, you have already trashed the Constitution so who's to say you won't keep going.

Health care under the govt. is pretty much akin to putting your life completely in the hands of govt., they decide whether you live or die, case closed.
clone benson

Bryan, OH

#985 Nov 16, 2009
yes by far than any other race go figure
Dawn

Chandler, AZ

#986 Nov 16, 2009
Beatrice wrote:
Is the Nation Of Islam racist??? Without a doubt the most ridiculous question ever asked on topix. A Nation Of Islam minister is incapable of making a sermon to his congregation without making hateful anti white comments.
Well Im sorry you feel that way. Have you ever studied on the NOI to know this for a fact because if you have and that is all you got out of it then your sadly mistaken . Just do a little homework for yourself and stop agreeing with the rest of the nay sayers and then you will change your view I promise
Beatrice

Prospect, KY

#987 Nov 16, 2009
Dawn wrote:
<quoted text> Well Im sorry you feel that way. Have you ever studied on the NOI to know this for a fact because if you have and that is all you got out of it then your sadly mistaken . Just do a little homework for yourself and stop agreeing with the rest of the nay sayers and then you will change your view I promise
No, my view will never change because I'm right...there is a religious TV channel I watch and I've seen many Nation Of Islam preachers on it. All they say is "white devil this" and "white devil that." I know what I see and hear. You're the one who needs to do a little homework, honey.
Dawn

Chandler, AZ

#988 Nov 16, 2009
Beatrice wrote:
<quoted text>No, my view will never change because I'm right...there is a religious TV channel I watch and I've seen many Nation Of Islam preachers on it. All they say is "white devil this" and "white devil that." I know what I see and hear. You're the one who needs to do a little homework, honey.
You are such a liar cause they dont say white devil this and white devil that. You just busted yourself out you are a liar.. thanks for saving me time on having to prove it cause you just did it for me
PTBW Forever

Prospect, KY

#989 Nov 16, 2009
Dawn wrote:
<quoted text>You are such a liar cause they dont say white devil this and white devil that. You just busted yourself out you are a liar.. thanks for saving me time on having to prove it cause you just did it for me
even the mainstream civil rights groups have completely turned anti white, the NOI is rooted in anti white beliefs so obviously it is still that way when the NAACP is actively trying to prevent white people from acquiring power legitimately in black cities.
Dawn

Chandler, AZ

#990 Nov 16, 2009
PTBW Forever wrote:
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even the mainstream civil rights groups have completely turned anti white, the NOI is rooted in anti white beliefs so obviously it is still that way when the NAACP is actively trying to prevent white people from acquiring power legitimately in black cities.
Tag teaming I see what ever unless you have been involved then you really wouldnt know .that would be like me standing outside you door and saying I know what your doing because someone else told me what they saw when your door was open so now im assuming i know too never having seen whats behind your door

Since: Oct 07

AOL

#991 Nov 16, 2009
Israel1948 wrote:
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Maybe you should read up REAL news instead of what an anti-Semitic president says. Maybe jimmy carter doesn't know what the arab countries do to the palestinians that are in their countries?
http://www.themiddleeastnow.com/arabtreatment...
Or you would think since jimmy carter was such a "christian fanatic" you would think he would know what the palestinians do to the christians in the palestinian territories?
"History of Palestinian Violence Against Christians
* Over 100 Palestinian terrorists took over the Church of the Nativity in 2002, using it as a fortress from which to fire upon Israeli troops, while holding nuns, priests and monks hostage, and looting or destroying virtually everything of value inside the building.
* During 2000-2002, the PA's Tanzim militia chose the Christian town of Beit Jala as a base for unprovoked shooting at Jerusalem. The Tanzim were specifically positioned in or near Christian homes, hotels, churches, and the Greek Orthodox club, knowing fully well that these sites would be hard-hit by Israeli return fire.
* In 1995, Bethlehem was 62% Christian, but today is less than 20% Christian. Before 1995, Bethlehem had a majority-Christian municipal council, but when the Palestinian Authority took over the town, Yassir Arafat replaced the municipal council with a predominately Muslim council, and Christian Arabs fled Bethlehem in droves after a radical Islamic wave began inciting against them.
* On February 6, 2002, the Boston Globe reported "a rampage of Palestinian Muslims against Christian shops and churches in Ramallah... Police made no attempt to stop the mob, which besieged and damaged a widely respected youth center associated with the Boy Scouts of America after torching the Christian properties...'The truth is this is a problem between Christians and Muslims,' said one Christian businessman."
Wrong, Zionist. What has caused an exodus, no pun intended, of Christians from Bethlehem was two-fold, Christians being held accoiuntable for the antics of "Christian Zionists," and Zionist terror, much as the Lvon Affair was priovoked by Zionists resulting in Sfaradhim being expelled from Egypt.

Your little avatar bragging about "the disaster" is sick. For years before, there were Arabic-speaking Yemeni Jews living peacefully near Dayr Yasin. In fat, Jews, Moslems and Christians united during the Crusades to fight the invaders(Crusadres).

The Zionists stole Yemeni babies and gave them to Ashkhenazim.
How sadly ironic.
Pere du Champ

United States

#992 Nov 16, 2009
Bad treatment of Christians by Muslims is common. Ask the Copts of Egypt how they're treated.

LOL at the racist apologist excuse for this... somehow it's due to "Christian Zionists" LOL!!!

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