Just Sex?

There are 25 comments on the www.christiantoday.com story from Jul 12, 2008, titled Just Sex?. In it, www.christiantoday.com reports that:

Who are we to tell others what they should feel, or how they should act on those feelings? What consenting adults do in private is none of anyone else's business.

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#1 Jul 12, 2008
Interesting.
Grim Reaper

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#3 Jul 13, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
Interesting.
What's "Interesting"? You create a thread, without sharing your views. Any chance, you want others point of view, so you have something to go on. Come on, Kerdy. Lets be "Proactive", not "Reactive". Even I, the one you said, the likes of fool, stupid, dumb...(maybe not the exact words, but along the same line), leaves more than, "Interesting", when creating a thread. Interesting??

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#5 Jul 13, 2008
Grim Reaper wrote:
<quoted text>What's "Interesting"? You create a thread, without sharing your views. Any chance, you want others point of view, so you have something to go on. Come on, Kerdy. Lets be "Proactive", not "Reactive". Even I, the one you said, the likes of fool, stupid, dumb...(maybe not the exact words, but along the same line), leaves more than, "Interesting", when creating a thread. Interesting??
You didnt find it interesting then I take it.
Light Sensitive

Bronx, NY

#6 Jul 13, 2008
yes, interesting. and of course there are any number of angles to support, or pick it apart. as we might soon see.

I think the crux of these sorts of debates is the assumption made by the author/supporting articles. that A always equal B. specifically, that more god will mean less problems. thats just silly. we have enough god if the stats we all toss around are correct.

the other assumption is this blanket claim that the bible and belief therein equals none of these problems among its adherents. which we can all prove is patently false. The bible is NOT the cure-all.

lets look at one example in the article; the over stretched court systems.(BTW this article was from the UK) many could and legitimatly say its how the courts have not adopted a more relevant POV on certain issues - re: the safety of children, etc...that keeps tying up the courts for years with the same families, etc. I know a former family lawyer who had clients that had been in the system for decades, he knew these people like they were his own family! and all due in his POV, because of the tired old "the family knows best attitude." how many times must that point be proven wrong with certain families? it was that very problem that drove him from the profession altogether. the legal system refuses to change to meet the needs it faces. and not just on this topic.

its a complicated issue(s) and one not going to be defined, let alone solved by religious adherence. most esp, as these forums so clearly point out, no one has the handle on that either. but neither is blind secularism the solution either.

we need rational discourse on these issues looking to real solutions - not these moralistic, "plant the flag" stand-offs between strict religious folks claiming the moral highground as their very own, and "everyone else" that too often takes place.

we need to enter the discussion first defining the real problems, and not just reacting to the symptoms of many things colliding. which we too often see is how fundy-christians often approach things, but they are not alone. too often a symptom is used to distract and delude while the real problem is left to fester and grow.

I dont disagree in whole with the article, just it makes too any leaps at the end to draw an obvious conclusion for its intended readers- that the bible and its adherents have it all figured out. which couldnt be further from the truth.

“Trying to make sense of it all”

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#7 Jul 13, 2008
I'd like to see a Christian write an article condemning human sacrifice to appease the gods. Now THAT would be funny!

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#9 Jul 13, 2008
Reasoner wrote:
I'd like to see a Christian write an article condemning human sacrifice to appease the gods. Now THAT would be funny!
Just what does that have to do with this thread? If people were practicing human sacrifice, you probably would see it.

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#10 Jul 13, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
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Just what does that have to do with this thread? If people were practicing human sacrifice, you probably would see it.
Nothing, I guess. But I think my comment went right over your head, which makes it even funnier to me.

“You don't have legs, Lt. Dan!”

Since: Apr 08

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#11 Jul 13, 2008
ALI wrote:
[57.1] Whatever is in the heavens and the earth declares the glory of Allah, and He is the Mighty, the Wise.
Say that to the next Islamic daughter who had to have sex with her father.

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(By the way, did you take over the Christian Forum yet?)

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#12 Jul 13, 2008
Reasoner wrote:
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Nothing, I guess. But I think my comment went right over your head, which makes it even funnier to me.
I got it just fine. Thanks!

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#13 Jul 13, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
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I got it just fine. Thanks!
And yet it didn't faze you in the least.

A modern man, believing such things. It blows my mind...

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#14 Jul 13, 2008
Reasoner wrote:
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And yet it didn't faze you in the least.
A modern man, believing such things. It blows my mind...
Why?

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#16 Jul 14, 2008
RUN_FORREST_RUN wrote:
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Say that to the next Islamic daughter who had to have sex with her father.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0jwbJeRXVGAXX&eurl=http:/ /www.bollywoodsargam.com/video _todayfeaturedvideo.php?blockb ustermovieclip=0jwbJeRXVGA---l atest-Islam_sex_adultery_w
(By the way, did you take over the Christian Forum yet?)
As i have previously sated above; this is complete rubbish. please switch your brain on and stop believing every single thing that is fed into you by the media and uneducated people

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#17 Jul 14, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
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Why?
To me, you've just asked the equivalent of why I think child rape is wrong.

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London, UK

#18 Jul 14, 2008
i dont get why you people will believe anything and everything that is claimed.

“You don't have legs, Lt. Dan!”

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Hometown in Alberta, Canada!

#19 Jul 14, 2008
amel wrote:
i dont get why you people will believe anything and everything that is claimed.
Are there such people as Muslim women suicide bombers?

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#20 Jul 14, 2008
RUN_FORREST_RUN wrote:
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Are there such people as Muslim women suicide bombers?
if you watch the news you will discover that yes, there is such thing as suicide bombers. i dont know what that has to do with what i have written??

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#21 Jul 14, 2008
RUN_FORREST_RUN wrote:
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Are there such people as Muslim women suicide bombers?
imean, there is such thing as female suicide bombers. why?

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#22 Jul 14, 2008
Reasoner wrote:
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To me, you've just asked the equivalent of why I think child rape is wrong.
Ummmm, okaeeeeeeeee.......

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#23 Jul 14, 2008
amel wrote:
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imean, there is such thing as female suicide bombers. why?
I am not a Muslim. But I am a Christian. There is outrageous and aberrant behavior done by Christians in the name of their religion, but if someone asks me if that behavior is fundamental to the Christian faith, I would say no, and point out from the Bible why it isn't.

The group of men that bombed the World Trade Center, New York City,(the first time in 1993)were arrested, tried, and convicted. And rightly so.

During their trial, the prosecution interviewed them, to determine their motives for doing this. The men defended their actions on religious (Islamic) grounds. And they quoted the Qu'ran to justify it. The Prosecutors were struck by just how accurately they were both quoting, and interpreting the Qu'ran.

I am wondering, if suicide bombers are justifiable in Muslim teaching, how would you justify this, and if it ISN'T justifiable, why do Muslim terrorists quote from Islamic Holy Writ, and think they are doing it accurately?
Hope

Warsaw, MO

#24 Jul 14, 2008
hi amel, welcome to our board

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