Abortion dividing Catholic votes

Sep 17, 2008 Full story: www.msnbc.msn.com 44

Until recently, Matthew Figured, a Sunday school teacher at the Holy Rosary Roman Catholic Church here, could not decide which candidate to vote for in the presidential election.

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“Fight with me”

Since: Sep 08

Charleston, SC

#3 Sep 17, 2008
xac00fm wrote:
Sarah Palin does not believe in abortion. She does not believe women who are raped and incested and ripped open against their will should have a right to determine whether they have their rapist’s baby or not.
She obviously does not believe in sex education or birth control. I imagine her daughter was practicing abstinence and we know how many babies that makes.
She said she'd support abortion in certain cases. But she's the VP anyway. She doesn't pass laws. Why aer you so scared, you'll still be able to kill a baby if you want.

Biden said his catholic religion teaches him that life begins at conception, but he votes pro-choice, so he's in favor of murder. But he's opposed to capital punishment. Come on liberals, stand for something...
Deb

Lansing, MI

#4 Sep 17, 2008
Sarah herself had to elope because she was pregnant and was not practicing abstinence.

“Fight with me”

Since: Sep 08

Charleston, SC

#6 Sep 17, 2008
Deb wrote:
Sarah herself had to elope because she was pregnant and was not practicing abstinence.
3

wow, another smear i haven't heard yet.

Barry was a member of a racist church for 20 years
its 3 am

United States

#7 Sep 17, 2008
Vladimir Putin is the President of Germany?:
&fe ature=related
.

He confuses sunni/shiite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
.

He doesn't even know what country borders Iraq!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
.

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
.

..........it's 3 am, and your children are sleeping..........

~~~~McCain is UNFIT to lead America~~~~
idiot America

United States

#8 Sep 17, 2008
This pro-choice/ pro-life debate is only a fight for the gullible.

Both sides have their right to their own beliefs.

Voters shouldn't make this a deciding factor.

Should the president of the united states be the deciding factor, or is a private, personal issue, between you and God?

Some of us simply believe that the government shouldn't be in the middle of this particular situation.

Every election the GOP tries to scare voters into thinking that abortions are going to run rampant if the democratic nominee becomes president.
In the last eight years, since their "pro-life" president has been in charge, have any laws changed? Republicans had the majority in congress for at least 6 of those eight years; did they make any changes in abortion laws? Have abortion rates risen?

This is just another "false issue" brought up by the party who will lose if they can't succeed at scaring you for another election..........

Don't vote out of FEAR; paranoia will destroy ya!

WAKE UP!
Seeking truth

Dearborn Heights, MI

#10 Sep 17, 2008
Abortions didn't start when they became legal. They merely became safe. Criminalizing abortion will only make them dangerous and immoral. Palin is against abortion even in cases of incest and rape, unless she too is flip flopping NOW. If so, then I understand what they mean by being for change. None of their positions are stable.
The Catholic church is conducting a 40 day prayer for the end of abortion which will end around election day. I am appalled that the church is merely trying appoint the next president, another Republican, again, especially when the Pope condemns capital punishment and the war in Iraq. As a church- going Catholic, I advise Catholics to stop giving money to the church, in protest, until after the election. Choose to give your money to a charity instead or do like ME, give the money to Obama's campaign.
Palin, like Bush and McCain, is liar and thief, who supports unending murderous war, neglects the poor and guardianship of the earth, God's creation. They're all hypocrites!
Reality Bites

Elizabethtown, KY

#11 Sep 17, 2008
The truth is that Roe V Wade hasn't changed in the past 8 years, and won't anytime in the future. This is an issue to keep us divided, and to not look at the issues that can reasonably be dealt with. We all know there are major problems in this country, but as long as we linger on the abortion issue nothing will change, and in the meantime the economy is going down the tubes, we have a war going on, and the Nat'l debt is through the roof. Please don't get hung up on abortion, gay marriage, and gun control. There is a much bigger out there.
Porky Palin

Elm, PA

#12 Sep 17, 2008
Ryan for Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
She said she'd support abortion in certain cases. But she's the VP anyway. She doesn't pass laws. Why aer you so scared, you'll still be able to kill a baby if you want.
Biden said his catholic religion teaches him that life begins at conception, but he votes pro-choice, so he's in favor of murder. But he's opposed to capital punishment. Come on liberals, stand for something...
Joe Biden supports woman deciding for themselves if they want to have an abortion or keep there baby. Sarah Palin believes her beliefs should be every womans beliefs.

John McCains supports murdering babies in cases of incest or rape. Using your words no mine.
Porky Palin

Elm, PA

#13 Sep 17, 2008
Reality Bites wrote:
The truth is that Roe V Wade hasn't changed in the past 8 years, and won't anytime in the future. This is an issue to keep us divided, and to not look at the issues that can reasonably be dealt with. We all know there are major problems in this country, but as long as we linger on the abortion issue nothing will change, and in the meantime the economy is going down the tubes, we have a war going on, and the Nat'l debt is through the roof. Please don't get hung up on abortion, gay marriage, and gun control. There is a much bigger out there.
Why do you think the Republicans use the abortion issue ? They have nothing else to run a campaign on.
Porky Palin

Elm, PA

#14 Sep 17, 2008
McCain campaign takes over shaping Palin image

By ANNE SUTTON
The Associated Press

Published: September 17th, 2008 10:14 AM
Last Modified: September 17th, 2008 10:15 AM

GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is effectively turning over questions about her record as Alaska's governor to John McCain's political campaign, part of an ambitious Republican strategy to limit embarrassing disclosures and carefully shape her image for voters in the rest of the country.
Porky Palin

Elm, PA

#15 Sep 17, 2008
The economy is fundamentally sound.

John McCain
GOP Wrecking Crew

Tilton, NH

#16 Sep 17, 2008
Ryan for Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
She said she'd support abortion in certain cases. But she's the VP anyway. She doesn't pass laws. Why aer you so scared, you'll still be able to kill a baby if you want.
Biden said his catholic religion teaches him that life begins at conception, but he votes pro-choice, so he's in favor of murder. But he's opposed to capital punishment. Come on liberals, stand for something...
Ryan please look at her record and not what a candidate says on the stump.

Actions sepak louder than words!
GOP Wrecking Crew

Tilton, NH

#17 Sep 17, 2008
It is a decision between the woman her doctor and her GOD!
Anthony

Norwood, NJ

#18 Sep 17, 2008
Porky Palin wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you think the Republicans use the abortion issue ? They have nothing else to run a campaign on.
You BOTH use the abortion issue, ad nauseum! Your side is obsessed with keeping it, their side bent on prohibiting it. But the shrillness is overwhelming from the Liberals and Conservatives alike. Between war, the economy, taxes, and overall government decay, you'd think the issue would recede to where it belongs: on the sidelines!
imlds

United States

#20 Sep 17, 2008
I am so sick of this argument. No matter which side you are on, the fact is that EVEN if Roe v Wade is overturned, abortion would still be an option. It becomes a states rights issue. Each state would decide whether or not to offer abortion. It should have been a states rights issue all along. When it is a states rights issue, the fed government has nothing to say about it. SO, this is REALLY a non issue!!!!!!
Arny

Summerville, SC

#21 Sep 17, 2008
Pro choice is not pro abortion. Bush(Pro Life) has been president for 8 years and still abortions are on the rise. Sex education would go a long way in reducing the number of abortions yet most pro lifers oppose this. Who's really killing babys.
temperance

Bristol, PA

#22 Sep 17, 2008
BLACK WOMEN... And the Abortion-Breast Cancer Link

DYING IN COLOR
You wanna fight for something Blood?
Red? Black? Blue? White?
Turn from your fractuous shame!
Ribbon-pink is bleeding into red:
Now I have breast cancer,
And our little baby is dead.

Why?

Now--
My body will never deliver,
No ... and I will start to bleed, red,
And my cancer, I hear, will never now go.

Four.

Four little babies. No coffins. Just tears.
I been usin' Planned Parenthood's
over-and-over system for years.

Know?

Little did I know, oh! Mourn with me now,
Little did I know! That after I was done with love,
There'd never be nothin' to show,
No one to grow,
No where to go ... I weep for my own. Oh! I weep!

Since: Sep 08

Bloomsburg, PA

#23 Sep 17, 2008
Republians use the abortion issue in there campaign just to get the votes. I would like to know what they really believe and practice...I don't think too many people like the idea abortion, but this is how it is. There will always be abortion whether it is legal or not. I am a Christian/Catholic and believe in freedom of choice. I would hope there would be guidelines as to late term abortion which seem quite cruel.
pro-choice/ pro-life debate is only a fight for the gullible.
Both sides have their right to their own beliefs.
Voters shouldn't make this a deciding factor.
Should the president of the united states be the deciding factor, or is a private, personal issue, between you and God?
Some of us simply believe that the government shouldn't be in the middle of this particular situation.
Every election the GOP tries to scare voters into thinking that abortions are going to run rampant if the democratic nominee becomes president.
In the last eight years, since their "pro-life" president has been in charge, have any laws changed? Republicans had the majority in congress for at least 6 of those eight years; did they make any changes in abortion laws? Have abortion rates risen?
This is just another "false issue" brought up by the party who will lose if they can't succeed at scaring you for another election..........
Don't vote out of FEAR; paranoia will destroy ya!
WAKE UP!

Since: Sep 08

Bloomsburg, PA

#24 Sep 17, 2008
Why should it be a state rights isssue??? That does not make sense. Just like smoking, alcohol,etc, they all should be a Federal issue. Why should one be forced to jump around to different states for these services. That is really going back in time. It is not just a Christian issue. Other religions frown on abortion, but still are pro-choice.
I am a Christian/Catholic and am pro-choice, but do believe it should be early term. A woman knows she is pregnant very early on, almost immediately. Late term is cruel. Why wait so long to abort???
imlds wrote:
I am so sick of this argument. No matter which side you are on, the fact is that EVEN if Roe v Wade is overturned, abortion would still be an option. It becomes a states rights issue. Each state would decide whether or not to offer abortion. It should have been a states rights issue all along. When it is a states rights issue, the fed government has nothing to say about it. SO, this is REALLY a non issue!!!!!!

“Fight with me”

Since: Sep 08

Charleston, SC

#25 Sep 18, 2008
Seeking truth wrote:
Abortions didn't start when they became legal. They merely became safe. Criminalizing abortion will only make them dangerous and immoral. Palin is against abortion even in cases of incest and rape, unless she too is flip flopping NOW. If so, then I understand what they mean by being for change. None of their positions are stable.
The Catholic church is conducting a 40 day prayer for the end of abortion which will end around election day. I am appalled that the church is merely trying appoint the next president, another Republican, again, especially when the Pope condemns capital punishment and the war in Iraq. As a church- going Catholic, I advise Catholics to stop giving money to the church, in protest, until after the election. Choose to give your money to a charity instead or do like ME, give the money to Obama's campaign.
Palin, like Bush and McCain, is liar and thief, who supports unending murderous war, neglects the poor and guardianship of the earth, God's creation. They're all hypocrites!
What a mess of crap! Talk about flip-flopping, your entire post is a flip-flop. You're a catholic, but you're against the church until after the election. That's the thing about liberals, you are too scared to have beliefs. You're always afraid you're gonna hurt someone's feelings. At least conservatives stand for something, even if it's unpopular in Hollywood. You guys just lay down, like a mat. Everything is fair game. Nothing is too far, you truly stand for N.O.T.H.I.N.G. Of course it takes a backbone and strong moral character to withstand to barrage of abuses thrown from the “open-minded” left.

Obama flip-flopped on his racists religious advisor, his stand on campaign finance, his stand on the surge, his stand on the withdraw time table, gun control, FISA, school vouchers, welfare reform, stance on Iran/N. Korea, stance on special interest endorsements - on second thought don't stand for anything, you are completely unable to make a proper decision.

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