Pa.'s 'Tea Party' finding strength in...

Pa.'s 'Tea Party' finding strength in independence

There are 148 comments on the O-R Online story from Mar 13, 2010, titled Pa.'s 'Tea Party' finding strength in independence. In it, O-R Online reports that:

Some day it might be remembered as the Tea Party primary. The newly forming activist groups that identify heartily with calls for cutting taxes, deficits, red tape and government programs are organizing demonstrations, holding candidate forums and getting a boost from private conservative institutions in Pennsylvania.

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Finius T Rainbow

Newville, PA

#1 Mar 14, 2010
I would prefer we keep politicians out of our tea movement. I saw Bartlett at one and he is part of the problem, voting for unconstitutional spending time and time again. Out with them!
boooo

Allentown, PA

#2 Mar 14, 2010
fringe racist wackos
boo hoo

York, PA

#3 Mar 14, 2010
Booh hooh i have to pay taxes...wahhh wahhh.What government programs do they want to cut?Which ones are not necessary?I hear a bunch of crying but no explanations on what they want to do.If you want to keep politicians out,then how are you going to get your ideas to be taken seriously?
Fred for Liberty

Stewartstown, PA

#4 Mar 14, 2010
To make things simple for those of you who just don't get it...
We need to stop or reduce as much as possible government theft (taxes). And reduce government threats against us (laws and regulations).
answermethis

Kulpsville, PA

#5 Mar 14, 2010
where were you from January 20, 2001 – January 20, 2009?

“God Bless America”

Since: Sep 08

Bonis Quod BeneFit Haud Perit.

#6 Mar 14, 2010
boo hoo wrote:
Booh hooh i have to pay taxes...wahhh wahhh.What government programs do they want to cut?Which ones are not necessary?I hear a bunch of crying but no explanations on what they want to do.If you want to keep politicians out,then how are you going to get your ideas to be taken seriously?
Start at King v. Smith in 1968

From 1968 to present, then axe them like rotten trees in the forrest. Give aid to the old, the vets and the widows with children, protect our country (defense) and chop out the rest.
Is that specific enough?

Since: Apr 09

Pawleys Island, SC

#7 Mar 14, 2010
Fred for Liberty wrote:
To make things simple for those of you who just don't get it...
We need to stop or reduce as much as possible government theft (taxes). And reduce government threats against us (laws and regulations).
Oh I get it.(Now that I've stopped laughing...at you)
No taxes, laws or regulations.
Good luck with that.

BTW....another poster after you shared HER version (vision?).
She wants to care for a distinct group of people and provide for a strong defense.
Of course those things require money (taxes) and laws and regulations to administer.

Seems you baggers can't even get on the same page.

Since: Mar 10

York, PA

#8 Mar 14, 2010
I feel we need a new Party. I think it is great what the tea party is trying to do. I support them.

“God Bless America”

Since: Sep 08

Bonis Quod BeneFit Haud Perit.

#9 Mar 14, 2010
CSS 44 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh I get it.(Now that I've stopped laughing...at you)
No taxes, laws or regulations.
Good luck with that.
BTW....another poster after you shared HER version (vision?).
She wants to care for a distinct group of people and provide for a strong defense.
Of course those things require money (taxes) and laws and regulations to administer.
Seems you baggers can't even get on the same page.
You better be careful, if you fall off your high chair, the bump might wisen you some. Your ignorance shines. I'm not a bagger, I also did not say those things didn't require taxes? I think you need to look back at government pre-1968?? I'm curious if you do that a lot, build a wild story on others posts, then glorify your intellect by debating your own false statements? Here's a hint: Reread the posters comments and try to keep up with converstions, stop injecting things that hinge or are bltantly false...your actually retarding the rest of us when we have to look back and comment and speak out about what you've said.... I might agree to allow you to call me a bagger if you'll officially go by 'liberal pussbag'?

“God Bless America”

Since: Sep 08

Bonis Quod BeneFit Haud Perit.

#10 Mar 14, 2010
robinred wrote:
I feel we need a new Party. I think it is great what the tea party is trying to do. I support them.
The average loss for the President’s Party, when the President’s approval rating is below 50%, is 40+ House seats. Most likely no third party will come to pass. I think you'll see some huge changes in the R-party first.

Thomas Del Beccaro offered Repubs 4 things to do in 2010 that sound pretty darn good for starters.

1. Marketing. Marketing is everything. You can have the best idea in the world, if your consumers don’t know it, or don’t know it’s yours, then that idea will go nowhere. Poor ideas have overcome better ideas though marketing – witness VHS over Beta. Even silly ideas have made millions based on marketing, i.e. the Pet Rock.

2. An Agenda. Republicans must propose a clear and concise Agenda for the 2010 Congressional candidates. Successful leaders, at all levels, tell people why they want to lead and where they want to go – political leaders included. In other words, a succinct vehicle like a Contract With America must be employed in 2010 which tackles the salient issues of the day: our weak economy, high taxes and out of control spending. Given that over 60% of Americans correctly believe that lower taxes will revive the economy more than government spending, Republicans should start with tax relief in addition to (a) a ban on earmarks,(b) making Congress subject to the same laws as Americans, and (c) cost/benefit analyses for new and existing laws.

3. Propose. As important as it will be to oppose the bad policies, merely being the Party of No is never a good strategy. Republicans must propose specific and credible alternatives to the Democrat polices on health care, the jobs bill, cap and trade, immigration and tax bills. To date, Republicans have authored a myriad of counter proposals – but no clear alternatives have emerged which demonstrate a clear governing philosophy let alone a united party. To be successful in 2010, egos must be set aside in favor of unity – the stakes are too high to proceed otherwise.

4. Oppose. It has long been said that the first duty of the opposition is to oppose. Given that the outset of 2010 will be dominated by the health care bill which will then give way to a pork barrel “jobs” bill and then on to cap and trade, immigration/amnesty and then taxes – Congressional Republicans will have ample opportunity to oppose the Democrats’ bad policies. More than merely oppose them, however, the magnitude of the “Change” being pushed by the Democrats requires the Congressional Republicans to demonstrate valor and determination in defeating those measures as if the Constitution depended upon it – because it does.

Most of that is true, but the tea party wants harsher overhauls of big government.

“God Bless America”

Since: Sep 08

Bonis Quod BeneFit Haud Perit.

#11 Mar 14, 2010
CSS 44 wrote:
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Oh I get it.(Now that I've stopped laughing...at you)
[idiot-snipped]
Sorry there css 44, but for your info....some of us ARE serious about the outcome of the 2010 and the 2012 upcoming elections. We are voicing out against big government, fraud, waste and corrupt representatives. We are the ones who will change America, either by the ballot or by the bullet and we are INDEPENDENTS, DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS AND LIBERTARIANS. We aren't sitting around laughing and harping on what "BUSH" did, we aren't into schoolyard snarky games -n- blames...some of us are movers and shakers, so beware.
Lipton

Slatington, PA

#12 Mar 14, 2010
As tea-baggers, we need to reduce the 965 billion dollar Defense Department budget.

“God Bless America”

Since: Sep 08

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#13 Mar 14, 2010
Lipton wrote:
As tea-baggers, we need to reduce the 965 billion dollar Defense Department budget.
Very funny.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2011/a...

http://www.militarybudget.info/
Military Budget = 23%

SSecurity = 20%
Medicare/Medicaid = 19%
Other Manditory(food stamps etc)= 17%
Other Discretionary (other spending-loans etc)= 12%
Interest = 8%
Broken down a bit more, would your say 'Defense Spending' was the top priority here? lol

Mandatory spending:$1.89 trillion (+6.2%)
$944 billion - Social Security
$408 billion - Medicare
$224 billion - Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP)
$360 billion - Unemployment/Welfare/Other mandatory spending
$260 billion - Interest on National Debt
Discretionary spending:$1.21 trillion (+4.9%)
$515.4 billion - United States Department of Defense
$145.2 billion(2008*)- Global War on Terror
$70.4 billion - United States Department of Health and Human Services
$68.2 billion - United States Department of Transportation
$45.4 billion - United States Department of Education
$44.8 billion - United States Department of Veterans Affairs
$38.5 billion - United States Department of Housing and Urban Development
$38.3 billion - State and Other International Programs
$37.6 billion - United States Department of Homeland Security
$25.0 billion - United States Department of Energy
$20.8 billion - United States Department of Agriculture
$20.3 billion - United States Department of Justice
$17.6 billion - National Aeronautics and Space Administration
$12.5 billion - United States Department of the Treasury
$10.6 billion - United States Department of the Interior
$10.5 billion - United States Department of Labor
$8.4 billion - Social Security Administration
$7.1 billion - United States Environmental Protection Agency
$6.9 billion - National Science Foundation
$6.3 billion - Judicial branch (United States federal courts)
$4.7 billion - Legislative branch (United States Congress)
$4.7 billion - United States Army Corps of Engineers
$0.4 billion - Executive Office of the President
$0.7 billion - Small Business Administration
$7.2 billion - Other agencies
$39.0 billion(2008*)- Other Off-budget Discretionary Spending

Oh...BTW- This actually reflects 2008 facts ..... Well?
letfreedomring

Orefield, PA

#14 Mar 14, 2010
AmeriWoman wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry there css 44, but for your info....some of us ARE serious about the outcome of the 2010 and the 2012 upcoming elections. We are voicing out against big government, fraud, waste and corrupt representatives. We are the ones who will change America, either by the ballot or by the bullet and we are INDEPENDENTS, DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS AND LIBERTARIANS. We aren't sitting around laughing and harping on what "BUSH" did, we aren't into schoolyard snarky games -n- blames...some of us are movers and shakers, so beware.
Your gang was really moving and shaking to get McCain/Palin elected, weren't they? Your willingness to use the "bullet" to command change makes you a domestic terrorist and you've, essentially, placed a target on your own back when push comes to shove. We can all be happy law enforcement knows how to shoot, too, and will protect regular Americans from mental cases like yourself.
boo hoo

York, PA

#15 Mar 14, 2010
Fred for Liberty wrote:
To make things simple for those of you who just don't get it...
We need to stop or reduce as much as possible government theft (taxes). And reduce government threats against us (laws and regulations).
What is your plan?The tea party movement is not supposed to have any politicians working for them according to the one poster on here.How are you going to accomplish cutting taxes without help from the inside?are you going to dress up like old time patriots and hold signs for 3 more years?pffft
boo hoo

York, PA

#16 Mar 14, 2010
AmeriWoman wrote:
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Start at King v. Smith in 1968
From 1968 to present, then axe them like rotten trees in the forrest. Give aid to the old, the vets and the widows with children, protect our country (defense) and chop out the rest.
Is that specific enough?
Ok,that sounds really smart,cut out public schools because they are funded with taxes.Cut out all roadwork and leave the highways and roads crumble,they are funded by taxes.Leave the communities defensless because the police and fire departments run on tax money.Leave all prisoners out of prison jails cost too many tax dollars.etc etc etc...wahhh wahhh wahhh
you do not want to hear

Stewartstown, PA

#17 Mar 14, 2010
boo hoo wrote:
<quoted text>What is your plan?pffft
Education and recruitment.

“God Bless America”

Since: Sep 08

Bonis Quod BeneFit Haud Perit.

#18 Mar 14, 2010
letfreedomring wrote:
<quoted text>
Your gang was really moving and shaking to get McCain/Palin elected, weren't they? Your willingness to use the "bullet" to command change makes you a domestic terrorist and you've, essentially, placed a target on your own back when push comes to shove. We can all be happy law enforcement knows how to shoot, too, and will protect regular Americans from mental cases like yourself.
My gang?? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
I was basically quoting the founding fathers... remember them?? Abraham Lincoln??[The ballot is stronger than the bullet] Thomas Jefferson??[In a nation governed by the people themselves, the possession of arms to defend their nation against usurpers within and without was deemed absolutely necessary. This right was protected by the 2nd Amendment.]-OR-[No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government]

Oh yea, never mind your a liberal... DOH!.....
You aint seen nothing yet :-)

P.S. I'm an ex SD officer, married to a police officer, of a family full of cops... You...are in deep doo-doo.
I bet freedom ringing for you was the sound of jail bars sliding when you finally got out lmao...

Come on back wiseacre.
boo hoo

York, PA

#19 Mar 14, 2010
AmeriWoman wrote:
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You better be careful, if you fall off your high chair, the bump might wisen you some. Your ignorance shines. I'm not a bagger, I also did not say those things didn't require taxes? I think you need to look back at government pre-1968?? I'm curious if you do that a lot, build a wild story on others posts, then glorify your intellect by debating your own false statements? Here's a hint: Reread the posters comments and try to keep up with converstions, stop injecting things that hinge or are bltantly false...your actually retarding the rest of us when we have to look back and comment and speak out about what you've said.... I might agree to allow you to call me a bagger if you'll officially go by 'liberal pussbag'?
Give aid to the old, the vets and the widows with children, protect our country (defense) and chop out the rest.

Sorry but you responded to me and said this.^^Where will you get the aid for the old,the vets,widows with children and the money to protect the country?Are you going to pay them or will you have to pay taxes for that?Teabaggers get alot of media coverage but they are nowhere near being organized.They can't even agree amongst themselves what their beliefs are.I think they just like the old fashioned uniforms.

“God Bless America”

Since: Sep 08

Bonis Quod BeneFit Haud Perit.

#20 Mar 14, 2010
boo hoo wrote:
<quoted text>Ok,that sounds really smart,cut out public schools because they are funded with taxes.Cut out all roadwork and leave the highways and roads crumble,they are funded by taxes.Leave the communities defensless because the police and fire departments run on tax money.Leave all prisoners out of prison jails cost too many tax dollars.etc etc etc...wahhh wahhh wahhh
The government should NEVER have gotten involved in education, period.

Go research WHO builds and works on America's highways and roads.... lmao. Your in for a big new lightbulb pal. Oh and see if you can google if up to '68 we allowed prisons and jails <rolls my eyes> COME ON, YOU LIBERALS SUCK AT THIS!!! Another skippy scatch rewording posts, WHAT a surprise....

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