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Jacksonville Pastors Unite to Fight Crime

There are 11 comments on the WTLV story from Jan 5, 2010, titled Jacksonville Pastors Unite to Fight Crime. In it, WTLV reports that:

Fifty African American inner-city churches are uniting to be part of the solution to violent crime.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at WTLV.

DemonsEye

“Liberals are insane.”

Since: Jan 08

Jacksonville Fl.

#1 Jan 6, 2010
Well, I guess its time for the yearly "We all jes doing it ta save da neybohuud" speeches.
Where are any of these useless posers when people are getting shot in drive bys and thugs are terrorizing apartments?
LOL

Bradenton, FL

#2 Jan 6, 2010
Unite against crime ....AGAIN......
They didn't know it was going to be so cold or they would have waited awhile to unite against crime.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#3 Jan 7, 2010
So what are these pastors going to be preaching?

Are they going to tell their congregations to turn in their own children or family members? Maybe they will preach that 50 year old grandma should wonder how the grandkid and great grandkid she is raising can afford to buy her all the goods, yet he or she has no skills or Job.

Or maybe it is time for the first quarter photo opt.
BoJingles

Orange Park, FL

#4 Jan 7, 2010
Here we go again. How many times is this going to take place? It does absolutely no good. It is a waste of time. Just a bunch of preachers that want to be on TV. The only way to get rid of crime, is to get rid of the thugs. The easiest way to do this, is when they are picked up, before getting to the jail, drop them off at the St Johns with cement blocks attached. One day you got a bunch of preachers calling for peace, the next day these same preachers are on camera complaining that some poor law breaker has been wrongly accused, or wrongly shot by police, etc. etc. enough already
Julianna

United States

#5 Jan 7, 2010
It has to start with children. Adults don't usually change or certainly not to a great extent. In many high crime areas poverty is an underlying factor, and the cycle just continues. If the pastors (or anyone) can impress upon the children their ability to make choices different from what they always seen and to strive for the long-term instead of the quick buck, then perhaps we'll see some meaningful change. Many of these children simply follow what they've seen. If these pastors or other community leaders can impress that upon them and show a different path, then more power to them. It will be an uphill battle regardless.
Tony

Bradenton, FL

#6 Jan 7, 2010
Julianna wrote:
Many of these children simply follow what they've seen.
Like NBA thugs making millions of dollars for playing hoops and playing with guns to make believe they are real men.

If the NBA doesn't boot these problems out of the league they should be held responsible when players begin to shoot each other....and they will because no one will stop them NOW.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#7 Jan 7, 2010
Julianna wrote:
It has to start with children. Adults don't usually change or certainly not to a great extent. In many high crime areas poverty is an underlying factor, and the cycle just continues. If the pastors (or anyone) can impress upon the children their ability to make choices different from what they always seen and to strive for the long-term instead of the quick buck, then perhaps we'll see some meaningful change. Many of these children simply follow what they've seen. If these pastors or other community leaders can impress that upon them and show a different path, then more power to them. It will be an uphill battle regardless.
Julianna, I am going to have to disagree with you on this one, Children change through learning and emulating those around them. So unless you remove ALL those children at birth then your odds of impressing them to do other than the life style around them is pretty much diminished.

If you have ever listened to some of these pastor (not sure if it the same ones) they are part of the problem. While they stand up in front of the cameras and talk about the crime must stop there solutions are always the same. MORE, MORE, MORE

More Cops that they will not support when needed.
More Programs ran by them (the pastors) and funded by government money.
More understanding by the justice system.

Let us face facts Crime is a Cancer, and while one might live with it for a while you either kill the cancer or it kills you, there is no compromise and no grey area.

Julianna

United States

#8 Jan 7, 2010
Tony wrote:
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Like NBA thugs making millions of dollars for playing hoops and playing with guns to make believe they are real men.
If the NBA doesn't boot these problems out of the league they should be held responsible when players begin to shoot each other....and they will because no one will stop them NOW.
We agree on this. The quick buck that I mentioned is what has been glamorized on television, in music and often by professional athletes. The false bravado that comes along with flash cash and brandishing guns is Hollywood. Real life results include a mother burying her kid, a young man spending his entire youth in prison and often innocent bystanders losing their lives because of someone else's bad choices.
Julianna

United States

#9 Jan 7, 2010
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
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Julianna, I am going to have to disagree with you on this one, Children change through learning and emulating those around them. So unless you remove ALL those children at birth then your odds of impressing them to do other than the life style around them is pretty much diminished.
If you have ever listened to some of these pastor (not sure if it the same ones) they are part of the problem. While they stand up in front of the cameras and talk about the crime must stop there solutions are always the same. MORE, MORE, MORE
More Cops that they will not support when needed.
More Programs ran by them (the pastors) and funded by government money.
More understanding by the justice system.
Let us face facts Crime is a Cancer, and while one might live with it for a while you either kill the cancer or it kills you, there is no compromise and no grey area.
Actually we agree more than you might think. Yes, kids emulate what they see. That is why I believe if we there are pastors, community leaders and others willing to be a positive influence then not all of these children will be lost. I believe in the amazing spirit within children, and the promise that their young lives bring. Just because you're born into a bad situation doesn't mean that you don't possess GREAT potential. That potential has to be cultivated. Ideally that would start in the household, but you and I both know that have the biological means to give birth doesn't make you a parent. Giving up isn't the answer. I'm not advocating for the system to ignore crime. Offenders have to be dealt with, but I'm saying preventation is the key. If you can reach children in their formative years, there is a still a chance for them.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#10 Jan 7, 2010
Julianna wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually we agree more than you might think. Yes, kids emulate what they see. That is why I believe if we there are pastors, community leaders and others willing to be a positive influence then not all of these children will be lost. I believe in the amazing spirit within children, and the promise that their young lives bring. Just because you're born into a bad situation doesn't mean that you don't possess GREAT potential. That potential has to be cultivated. Ideally that would start in the household, but you and I both know that have the biological means to give birth doesn't make you a parent. Giving up isn't the answer. I'm not advocating for the system to ignore crime. Offenders have to be dealt with, but I'm saying preventation is the key. If you can reach children in their formative years, there is a still a chance for them.
All I know is that for as long as I can remember these same pastors show up about every three or four months for a photo opt. Maybe they need to do something in their own communities instead of flapping the hot air hole under their noses.
Truth

Brooklyn, MI

#11 Jan 7, 2010
Iesha and Quinesha need to stop spreading their legs for every smooth talking gold tooth rope haired scumbag.Get married before fornicating like barnyard animals so junior will have a father.As of now,the taxpayer is the daddy and the cycle will continue till the country goes bankrupt.

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