Sexual Orientation, Conservative Chri...

Sexual Orientation, Conservative Christians, and the Ethical Standards of... Counseling Programs:

There are 8 comments on the www.tcrecord.org story from Nov 5, 2010, titled Sexual Orientation, Conservative Christians, and the Ethical Standards of... Counseling Programs:. In it, www.tcrecord.org reports that:

A graduate student in counseling at a public university was dismissed from her program after she asked to refer a gay client to another counselor based on her religious views about sexual morality.

From time to time throughout its history, Christianity has produced martyrs—people who suffered and died for their faith. St. Sebastian was shot through with arrows, St. Lawrence was roasted on a hot griddle, and St. Thomas More was beheaded. And recently, Julea Ward, a graduate student at Eastern Michigan University, was dismissed from EMU’s counseling program due to a conflict between her conservative Christian beliefs and the ethical obligations of the counseling profession. Is Julea Ward a martyr of sorts? You decide.

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“God made in the image of man”

Since: May 07

Sausalito, CA

#1 Nov 5, 2010
I have decided ...

She may be a martyr in her own opinion or that of her fellow Christians, just as Islamic suicide bombers may consider themselves martyrs, but in modern society certain concepts are becoming mainstream, and if she is so seriously out of touch with the mainstream she is not suited to the profession of counsellor. Like it or not, homosexuality is no longer considered deviant behavior, but something more akin to being left-handed. If your religion teaches you to consider left-handedness or similar variations a sign of god's disapproval, then you have no business being a consellor in a public university.
Elaygee

Jacksonville, FL

#2 Nov 5, 2010
What if she found Jews to be outside her zone of religious approval as they reject her chosen "savior"?
How about divorced people?
How about people who eat Shrimp as her bible clearly demands death as punishment for it?

If she's that hung up, she has no business being a psychological counselor to anyone and should be a religion counselor
yero69

Adelaide, Australia

#3 Nov 5, 2010
at least she referred on instead of trying to re-program the person. should she have been dismissed no, is she a martyr no, just a person who acknowledged her values

“Proud to be an American”

Since: Oct 09

Clarksville TN

#4 Nov 5, 2010
Umninimuzi wrote:
I have decided ...
She may be a martyr in her own opinion or that of her fellow Christians, just as Islamic suicide bombers may consider themselves martyrs, but in modern society certain concepts are becoming mainstream, and if she is so seriously out of touch with the mainstream she is not suited to the profession of counsellor. Like it or not, homosexuality is no longer considered deviant behavior, but something more akin to being left-handed. If your religion teaches you to consider left-handedness or similar variations a sign of god's disapproval, then you have no business being a consellor in a public university.
That's correct. There are quite a few Christian colleges and universities. She can be a counselor at the major churches but has not business being a counselor in private practice.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#5 Nov 5, 2010
Fossey wrote:
And Ward should not have been subjected to theological questioning by a professor during her formal review. It is not a university’s job to reinstate the Inquisition.
Excuse me, but wasn't it Ward who brought theology into the matter? If she's so dedicated to her beliefs, she should be proud to expound upon them.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#6 Nov 5, 2010
From the article: Dr. Callaway told Ward that the ethical standards of the counseling profession, expressed in the American Counseling Association’s (ACA) Code of Ethics, require counselors to “set aside their personal values or belief systems and work with the value system of the client”.

If she knew this going in, she has no standing to complain.

Also from the article:...counseling is a profession that requires compassion, and one wonders whether the EMU counseling faculty showed any compassion for Julea Ward.

Uh, she's not the one who is GETTING counseling, she doesn't NEED that kind of compassion. The faculty is not obliged to coddle her "icky feelings". Their duty is to produce counselors who adhere to the ACA standards, and who can adequately and professionally counsel ANYONE who walks through their office doors. Doing so requires strict adherence to high standards of quality and performance, and "compassion" toward the students may actually be CONTRARY to producing good counselors.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#7 Nov 5, 2010
Since she wants to be considered a martyr, it's too bad she wasn't drawn and quartered.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#8 Nov 5, 2010
Frank Stanton wrote:
Since she wants to be considered a martyr, it's too bad she wasn't drawn and quartered.
Every once in a while, I agree with you whole-heartedly.

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