Lockerbie bomber release stirs diplom...

Lockerbie bomber release stirs diplomatic dispute

There are 18 comments on the Times-Picayune story from Aug 21, 2009, titled Lockerbie bomber release stirs diplomatic dispute. In it, Times-Picayune reports that:

The jet bringing Pan Am Flight 103 bomber Abdel Baset al-Megrahi back to Libya arrives at the airport in Tripoli on Thursday.

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Jones

“It's about the American People”

Since: Jun 07

Flushing, NY

#1 Aug 22, 2009
Both liberal Marxist government of Britain and Scotland proved that they support the Islamic terrorist suicide bombers and their commercial connection with the Islamic fanatic dictator Gadhafi more that they care about the American victims that died in Lockerbie.
Since January 2008, the compassion and love to murderous Islamic terrorists and fighting for their rights is the new world order under the African Muslim born Barack Obama who ordered the closure of the Gitmo prison and the release of the prisoners some that were involved in horrific killing thousands of innocent Americans in 9/11 2001.
Obama who studied the culture of radical Islam in Madrassa in Indonesia knows that releasing from prison Islamic Shahids and martyrs who killed the infidels as ordered by the Islamic Quran is a big Islamic Mitzvah and bring pride and jubilation to the hundreds of millions of Islamic terrorist supporters all over the world.
The American Muslin born dictator Barack Obama who vowed to release murderous Islamic terrorists from prisons all over the world including Gitmo, Iraq and Afghanistan knows that release of Islamic martyrs from ‘infidels’ prisons is victory to the islamic world and recognition in the rule of Islam over the civilized world.
The shameful compassion of the British and Scotland governments that led to the release of the Lockerbie's Islamic terrorist murderer of more than 250 innocent Americans and other children and woman after less than eight years in prison is sickening and proves that Islamic terrorists are getting admiration by the Scotland and British government that going after the Islamic leadership of Barack Obama.
I can read

Scarborough, UK

#2 Aug 22, 2009
Jones wrote:
Both liberal Marxist government of Britain and Scotland proved that they support the Islamic terrorist suicide bombers and their commercial connection with the Islamic fanatic dictator Gadhafi more that they care about the American victims that died in Lockerbie.
Since January 2008, the compassion and love to murderous Islamic terrorists and fighting for their rights is the new world order under the African Muslim born Barack Obama who ordered the closure of the Gitmo prison and the release of the prisoners some that were involved in horrific killing thousands of innocent Americans in 9/11 2001.
Obama who studied the culture of radical Islam in Madrassa in Indonesia knows that releasing from prison Islamic Shahids and martyrs who killed the infidels as ordered by the Islamic Quran is a big Islamic Mitzvah and bring pride and jubilation to the hundreds of millions of Islamic terrorist supporters all over the world.
The American Muslin born dictator Barack Obama who vowed to release murderous Islamic terrorists from prisons all over the world including Gitmo, Iraq and Afghanistan knows that release of Islamic martyrs from ‘infidels’ prisons is victory to the islamic world and recognition in the rule of Islam over the civilized world.
The shameful compassion of the British and Scotland governments that led to the release of the Lockerbie's Islamic terrorist murderer of more than 250 innocent Americans and other children and woman after less than eight years in prison is sickening and proves that Islamic terrorists are getting admiration by the Scotland and British government that going after the Islamic leadership of Barack Obama.
Perhaps you should investigate what happened instead of spouting utterly stupid fantasies you have?

Here are some actual facts about the case:

- Senior UK police officers have reported evidence tampering by members of the FBI in the case

- The witness who ultimately got magrahi convicted has provided a sworn testimony that he was bribed to lie by the FBI.

- There are others who were approached by the FBI and offered $4M to lie in court.

- The physical evidence which convicted Magrahi is a fragment of circuit board supposedly found in a large forrest years after the bombing.

- The 'FBI expert' who identified the circuit board fragment as part of a timing device has been proven to have no background whatsoever in science.

- The boss of the company which manufactured the circuit board identified the fragment he was shown as not being part of a batch sent to lybia or of being a prototype as the prosecution claimed due to not having the correct solder marks.

- When he returned the next day the fragment did have the required solder marks. He made a statement to police stating the evidence had been tampered with.

- The person who led the US side of the investigation which involved bribery and evidence tampering was none other than Robert Mueller, current head of the FBI.

- The release of magrahi has halted any investigation into US conspiracy.
jtwallace

Charlotte, NC

#3 Aug 22, 2009
The Brits are a nation of past glory. They ruled with an iron fist and used their power to subdue nations and tried to rob them of their culture and bounty. When the Nazis came to power, they almost had them beaten down by attrition. What is happening now is that seed of "Hold Fast" and "We will not be defeated" is a chapter in their past history. Now they no longer have that spark or drive to defend their nation against tyranny. At least in the governing bodies. But the citizens can still have a say in who will lead us at the next election. Officials need to remember this.
shadows

Avon, IN

#4 Aug 22, 2009
Jones wrote:
Both liberal Marxist government of Britain and Scotland proved that they support the Islamic terrorist suicide bombers and their commercial connection with the Islamic fanatic dictator Gadhafi more that they care about the American victims that died in Lockerbie.
Since January 2008, the compassion and love to murderous Islamic terrorists and fighting for their rights is the new world order under the African Muslim born Barack Obama who ordered the closure of the Gitmo prison and the release of the prisoners some that were involved in horrific killing thousands of innocent Americans in 9/11 2001.
Obama who studied the culture of radical Islam in Madrassa in Indonesia knows that releasing from prison Islamic Shahids and martyrs who killed the infidels as ordered by the Islamic Quran is a big Islamic Mitzvah and bring pride and jubilation to the hundreds of millions of Islamic terrorist supporters all over the world.
The American Muslin born dictator Barack Obama who vowed to release murderous Islamic terrorists from prisons all over the world including Gitmo, Iraq and Afghanistan knows that release of Islamic martyrs from ‘infidels’ prisons is victory to the islamic world and recognition in the rule of Islam over the civilized world.
The shameful compassion of the British and Scotland governments that led to the release of the Lockerbie's Islamic terrorist murderer of more than 250 innocent Americans and other children and woman after less than eight years in prison is sickening and proves that Islamic terrorists are getting admiration by the Scotland and British government that going after the Islamic leadership of Barack Obama.
do you space nazis exist too? and is obama there leader?
Scottish USA

San Diego, CA

#5 Aug 22, 2009
ITS scottish law that anyone with 3 months left to live is granted release on compassion grounds. Scottish law is was created long ago, long before we had this new terror, so don't blame the system,

The good old USA land of the free , home of the brave, and yet we have a small colonial enclave in Cuba called Guantanamo Bay...where..oh dear...we don't even respect our own laws and make them up as we go...oh dear..such hypocrisy..........

Don't Blame the Scottish people for having a law that does what it says its to do.
nightshift

Sunderland, UK

#6 Aug 22, 2009
you're weak like your country.
jtwallace wrote:
The Brits are a nation of past glory. They ruled with an iron fist and used their power to subdue nations and tried to rob them of their culture and bounty. When the Nazis came to power, they almost had them beaten down by attrition. What is happening now is that seed of "Hold Fast" and "We will not be defeated" is a chapter in their past history. Now they no longer have that spark or drive to defend their nation against tyranny. At least in the governing bodies. But the citizens can still have a say in who will lead us at the next election. Officials need to remember this.
mimi

London, UK

#7 Aug 23, 2009
nightshift wrote:
you're weak like your country.
<quoted text>
Im a brit and i agree, our country is a disgrace and a shithole

ENGLAND DIED AND FORGOT GOD AND HER ALLIES!

“Participant S.E Asia War Games”

Since: Dec 07

Arden

#8 Aug 24, 2009
bet nike enjoyed the hat.

“Participant S.E Asia War Games”

Since: Dec 07

Arden

#9 Aug 24, 2009
mimi wrote:
<quoted text>
Im a brit and i agree, our country is a disgrace and a shithole
ENGLAND DIED AND FORGOT GOD AND HER ALLIES!
america is about to join the club.
Merlin

Hingham, MA

#10 Aug 24, 2009
Scottish USA wrote:
ITS scottish law that anyone with 3 months left to live is granted release on compassion grounds. Scottish law is was created long ago, long before we had this new terror, so don't blame the system,
The good old USA land of the free , home of the brave, and yet we have a small colonial enclave in Cuba called Guantanamo Bay...where..oh dear...we don't even respect our own laws and make them up as we go...oh dear..such hypocrisy..........
Don't Blame the Scottish people for having a law that does what it says its to do.
The Scottish law only requires them to CONSIDER the release, not summarily grant it.

So, which laws does Gitmo break, because the prisoners held there have very few, being non-uniformed enemy combatents...they have waived most of their rights by their actions...during WW2, they would have been interogated (harshly) and in all probibility summerily executed as spies.
nightshift

Sunderland, UK

#11 Aug 24, 2009
go and read up on his case instead of spouting your nonsense - have you guys ever followed any international law ?
Merlin wrote:
<quoted text>
The Scottish law only requires them to CONSIDER the release, not summarily grant it.
So, which laws does Gitmo break, because the prisoners held there have very few, being non-uniformed enemy combatents...they have waived most of their rights by their actions...during WW2, they would have been interogated (harshly) and in all probibility summerily executed as spies.
nightshift

Sunderland, UK

#12 Aug 24, 2009
you are correct civilians do not wear uniforms - if you have evidence, try these people in an American court of law.
Merlin wrote:
<quoted text>
The Scottish law only requires them to CONSIDER the release, not summarily grant it.
So, which laws does Gitmo break, because the prisoners held there have very few, being non-uniformed enemy combatents...they have waived most of their rights by their actions...during WW2, they would have been interogated (harshly) and in all probibility summerily executed as spies.
Merlin

Cambridge, MA

#13 Aug 25, 2009
nightshift wrote:
you are correct civilians do not wear uniforms - if you have evidence, try these people in an American court of law.
<quoted text>
No, they have no rights to a civil defense, they are non-uniformed enemy combatents, thus not civilians...look at what the requirements for protection under the Geneva convention they are entitled to, that would be...NONE!

They need to conform to those "international laws" you speak of to gain the protections they provide.
Jazz singer

UK

#14 Aug 25, 2009
I can read wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you should investigate what happened instead of spouting utterly stupid fantasies you have?
Here are some actual facts about the case:
- Senior UK police officers have reported evidence tampering by members of the FBI in the case
- The witness who ultimately got magrahi convicted has provided a sworn testimony that he was bribed to lie by the FBI.
- There are others who were approached by the FBI and offered $4M to lie in court.
- The physical evidence which convicted Magrahi is a fragment of circuit board supposedly found in a large forrest years after the bombing.
- The 'FBI expert' who identified the circuit board fragment as part of a timing device has been proven to have no background whatsoever in science.
- The boss of the company which manufactured the circuit board identified the fragment he was shown as not being part of a batch sent to lybia or of being a prototype as the prosecution claimed due to not having the correct solder marks.
- When he returned the next day the fragment did have the required solder marks. He made a statement to police stating the evidence had been tampered with.
- The person who led the US side of the investigation which involved bribery and evidence tampering was none other than Robert Mueller, current head of the FBI.
- The release of magrahi has halted any investigation into US conspiracy.
Very good!!

But the Yanks don't want to hear that, do they?

They much prefer accusing everybody and play the outraged victim's role in this case.
nightshift

Sunderland, UK

#15 Aug 25, 2009
no you are wrong - the people including children you are holding without trial are civilians - if you are correct - try them with your justice system - if you cannot you have no evidence. Are you a big fan of abu ghraib - did they deserve your humiliation ? disgraceful!!!!
Merlin wrote:
<quoted text>
No, they have no rights to a civil defense, they are non-uniformed enemy combatents, thus not civilians...look at what the requirements for protection under the Geneva convention they are entitled to, that would be...NONE!
They need to conform to those "international laws" you speak of to gain the protections they provide.
Merlin

Cambridge, MA

#16 Aug 25, 2009
nightshift wrote:
no you are wrong - the people including children you are holding without trial are civilians - if you are correct - try them with your justice system - if you cannot you have no evidence. Are you a big fan of abu ghraib - did they deserve your humiliation ? disgraceful!!!!
<quoted text>
The mistreatment of combat detainees at Abu Graib was outrageous and wrong and those invoved have been appropreately disciplined, which has nothing at all to do with the treatment of enemy combatents, who by their illegal actions on the battlefield have forfieted any protections under the Law including the Geneva conventions, which requires compliance to get protection.
nightshift

Sunderland, UK

#17 Aug 25, 2009
define enemy combatent and do children qualify ?

only an idiot or republican would try and defend guantanamo and the barbaric treatment and torture of people who have not been tried in a court of law.
Merlin wrote:
<quoted text>
The mistreatment of combat detainees at Abu Graib was outrageous and wrong and those invoved have been appropreately disciplined, which has nothing at all to do with the treatment of enemy combatents, who by their illegal actions on the battlefield have forfieted any protections under the Law including the Geneva conventions, which requires compliance to get protection.
nightshift

Sunderland, UK

#18 Aug 25, 2009
poppycock
Jones wrote:
Both liberal Marxist government of Britain and Scotland proved that they support the Islamic terrorist suicide bombers and their commercial connection with the Islamic fanatic dictator Gadhafi more that they care about the American victims that died in Lockerbie.
Since January 2008, the compassion and love to murderous Islamic terrorists and fighting for their rights is the new world order under the African Muslim born Barack Obama who ordered the closure of the Gitmo prison and the release of the prisoners some that were involved in horrific killing thousands of innocent Americans in 9/11 2001.
Obama who studied the culture of radical Islam in Madrassa in Indonesia knows that releasing from prison Islamic Shahids and martyrs who killed the infidels as ordered by the Islamic Quran is a big Islamic Mitzvah and bring pride and jubilation to the hundreds of millions of Islamic terrorist supporters all over the world.
The American Muslin born dictator Barack Obama who vowed to release murderous Islamic terrorists from prisons all over the world including Gitmo, Iraq and Afghanistan knows that release of Islamic martyrs from ‘infidels’ prisons is victory to the islamic world and recognition in the rule of Islam over the civilized world.
The shameful compassion of the British and Scotland governments that led to the release of the Lockerbie's Islamic terrorist murderer of more than 250 innocent Americans and other children and woman after less than eight years in prison is sickening and proves that Islamic terrorists are getting admiration by the Scotland and British government that going after the Islamic leadership of Barack Obama.

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