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Report: CU Student Died Of Oxy Overdose 15min

There are 31 comments on the KETV story from Jul 1, 2009, titled Report: CU Student Died Of Oxy Overdose 15min. In it, KETV reports that:

Toxicology reports said that a Creighton University student died of an overdose of the prescription painkiller OxyContin, but it wasn't immediately clear where Jonathan Colby got the pills.

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Curious Jorje

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#1 Jul 2, 2009
Its not clear where he got the pills. Well he didnt have a script, so please dont punish the chronic pain patients

What a shame.....I always wonder if its suicide when they arent jacked up on tons of other substances, only oxy.

Ny sister stole a 20mg once and split it with her boyfriend, they both got nauseuos as hell. I would think vomiting would occur unless he wet right to sleep.

thank god it wasnt an 80 but like a normal human being concerned for her safety, she did some research and decided 10 mgs wouldnt be too much.

“Tin Foil Hat applied to lower ”

Since: Jul 08

Allegeny

#2 Jul 2, 2009
Big Pharma corporations are worse then pushers on the streets, their cost is inflated just as a local street dealer, their dope kills the same, just as a street pusher. what is the difference? Ohh I forgot they are Governmental regulated to sell dope at inflated prices , regardless of youth recourse..
Great corporate country WE have huh? Why buy it when you can steal it from your mommy and daddy's medicine cabinet? amazing! Black market pharma sales are more dangerous and widely available compared to scoring a rock in downtown Omaha.
Curious Jorje

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#3 Jul 2, 2009
Your statements make no sense whatsoever, they are logical fallacys at best, completely foolish and ignorant is more the reality.

Besides newer medications almost all opioid drugs are reasonably priced if not very cheap.

You dont know anything about oxycontin related deaths, get the real facts and come back.

Pharmaceutical companies have to pay for R&D, employees, patents, manufacturing and distribution, insurance, and all sort of things regular businesses do.

Also, what street dealers charge is post facto, and has nothing to do with anything. They cant be "the same", drug dealers will charge whatever they need to make a profit, if a drug is cheap, they have to sell it cheaper, if a drug is expensive, then they charge more, they are not related the way you make it sound, you make no sense,should they lower their prices because drug dealers charge a lot? give me a break, one has nothing to do with the other.

THey are not killing kids left and right and besides, thats not the drug companies fault, milions of people need pain medications and the only way they get into the wrong hands is by illegal diversion of prescriptions, theft and robberies of pharmacies and distribution centers, this again, is not the fault of the manufacturer.

Youre just a hater throwing blame everywere but where it belongs, on the people who dont keep their medicine away and out of reach from their kids, those who sell thei prescriptions and medicines, those who rob pharmacies and whoever else to get them and last but not least, the teenagers who decide to rip their parents or family members off and STEAL their pain medicine, they know what they are doing and as tragic as it is, they are the ones who made the choice. THe only exception being a very young child not knowing what he was doing, but again, the parents are at fault here.

Ive never had a problem like my little niece grabbing pills and ODing. Why? because I keep them in a lock box that is also out of reach, not in a medicine cabinet without the childproof cap on in a bathroom where all can get to it.

You are just a hater with an agenda who will blame the makers of a needed product and blame and punish those who need to use the medication.

Anybody with a 5th grade education can see through your faulty logic.

Interesting to note, in my post I mentioned some concern and care for the kid, I didnt see anything from you..what a great person you are.

There are millions of chronic pain patients who cant get medicine and are dying every day, so explain how much easier it is to get than drugs of the street, like Heroin or Rock? Your facts come from WHERE? My god.

Its also really tiring to hear the comparisons of pain killers to things like Coke, Crack, Heroin and Meth.....pain med are made from very very weak to very very strong, depending on the need of the patient, what does that have to do with illicit drugs? Because somebody with a broken body, or a burn victim or chemo patient requires heavy, heavy analgesia, this somehow puts them into a category with Heroin or Coke?? Use your brain, drop your agenda and step away from the pharmacy.

Please,P, Roxi, Andy, Jules...explain to this genius jut how wrong he/she is, I dont want to waste any more time, I had written a long post in more depth but it got erased come on everybody, school this poor, miguided person ad guide them to the truth

“Tin Foil Hat applied to lower ”

Since: Jul 08

Allegeny

#4 Jul 2, 2009
Curious Jorje wrote:
<SNIP the 5 paragraphs of BULLCHIT>

Please,P, Roxi, Andy, Jules...explain to this genius jut how wrong he/she is, I dont want to waste any more time, I had written a long post in more depth but it got erased come on everybody, school this poor, miguided person ad guide them to the truth
Ohh you mean your 5th grade spelling education that shows in your post?

Or your 5 paragraphs of rhetoric that does nothing ,but show your desire to spark another rookie net warrior?

An lastly you must be a disgruntled pharmacist?

Miguided? you mean misguided?,
just like your spelling, your logic is all full of errors!
Nuff said, Nuff respect

Since: Dec 08

Norwalk, CT

#5 Jul 2, 2009
FreshMeatz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ohh you mean your 5th grade spelling education that shows in your post?
Or your 5 paragraphs of rhetoric that does nothing ,but show your desire to spark another rookie net warrior?
An lastly you must be a disgruntled pharmacist?
Miguided? you mean misguided?,
just like your spelling, your logic is all full of errors!
Nuff said, Nuff respect
Were you able to understand the point? Were you able to read it and understand what it meant? Yes, you were. You are getting a little nit picky because this poster called you out on your facts or lack there of. Everything stated in the post is accurate and correct. The makers of these drugs are not at fault for the many irresponsible deaths that have occured from od on these meds. Many, many people benefit from taking these dugs. Quality of life issues are a huge determining factor when pain patients take these pain meds. People who would not otherwise have a chance to live life to the fullest, now can do so because they have access to these meds. I think you have truly been misguided and should do some further research into the subject, get facts from all sides and then come back when you have educated yourself on the issue. Come on people take responsibility for your own actions or the actions of others who have od'd, stop looking to point fingers and blame everyone else except the ones who should be blamed.
realtrouble

Westminster, CA

#6 Jul 2, 2009
FreshMeatz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ohh you mean your 5th grade spelling education that shows in your post?
Or your 5 paragraphs of rhetoric that does nothing ,but show your desire to spark another rookie net warrior?
An lastly you must be a disgruntled pharmacist?
Miguided? you mean misguided?,
just like your spelling, your logic is all full of errors!
Nuff said, Nuff respect
hes right ahole. your just a jealous jackass
realtrouble

Westminster, CA

#7 Jul 2, 2009
FreshMeatz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ohh you mean your 5th grade spelling education that shows in your post?
Or your 5 paragraphs of rhetoric that does nothing ,but show your desire to spark another rookie net warrior?
An lastly you must be a disgruntled pharmacist?
Miguided? you mean misguided?,
just like your spelling, your logic is all full of errors!
Nuff said, Nuff respect
do you even know what misguided is? its the very definition of your message. you cant counter the context but you single out misspelled words? what a joke lol. read this eatthecornoutofmyshit
realtrouble

Westminster, CA

#8 Jul 2, 2009
ItsmeJules wrote:
<quoted text>Were you able to understand the point? Were you able to read it and understand what it meant? Yes, you were. You are getting a little nit picky because this poster called you out on your facts or lack there of. Everything stated in the post is accurate and correct. The makers of these drugs are not at fault for the many irresponsible deaths that have occured from od on these meds. Many, many people benefit from taking these dugs. Quality of life issues are a huge determining factor when pain patients take these pain meds. People who would not otherwise have a chance to live life to the fullest, now can do so because they have access to these meds. I think you have truly been misguided and should do some further research into the subject, get facts from all sides and then come back when you have educated yourself on the issue. Come on people take responsibility for your own actions or the actions of others who have od'd, stop looking to point fingers and blame everyone else except the ones who should be blamed.
you shouldnt defend the manufacturers. there is culpability. they paid $635 million as a result. no joke
piercit

United States

#9 Jul 2, 2009
FreshMeatz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ohh you mean your 5th grade spelling education that shows in your post?
Or your 5 paragraphs of rhetoric that does nothing ,but show your desire to spark another rookie net warrior?
An lastly you must be a disgruntled pharmacist?
Miguided? you mean misguided?,
just like your spelling, your logic is all full of errors!
Nuff said, Nuff respect
Nit picking does not make an argument bro. Think about what you are saying.

By your logic, itís the manufacture of guns, alcohol, and automobiles as the reason for violent deaths in this country.

It's called personal responsibility; itís a simple fact of modern life.

If you are prescribed these medications it is up to you to secure them, just like owning a gun.

I won't call you names, but just because you can write, that don't make you right.

Ohh by the way, its ...Oh you suk.

piercit

Since: Dec 08

Norwalk, CT

#10 Jul 2, 2009
realtrouble wrote:
<quoted text>
you shouldnt defend the manufacturers. there is culpability. they paid $635 million as a result. no joke
I am tired of so many pointed fingers, pointing in the direction of everyone else but those who have made the bad judgemnt call. It's unfortunate that any of these companies has had to pay for negligence and improper parenting. I really just want to see more people say "I did this" I am an addict of my own accord" I chose to misuse pain meds not prescribed to me" the list just goes on infinitely of the "I" s. Just once I would like to see people admit to thier shortcomings and not look to blame others for them. How is it that I am able to take pain meds for years and follow a docs directions but the minute that someone does something different than what they are told, the blame is put on the ones with the most money, the ones who will pay the most, drug companies. Is it really their fault that people misuse and abuse their meds, that they go looking for drug dealers to sell them what they want and when they die from an overdose that their survivors put the blame on the manufacturers of these drugs? I think not. These companies did not tell them to misuse and abuse, did not send them out to the street to procure them. It's just plain silly what we as a society are willing to accept as logical and reasonable blame. That there is always someone looking to pass the buck. I am all over the place with this post, happens when I am passionate about something, should try and organize the thoughts before responding but have to go out and wanted to respond before I left.
realtrouble

Westminster, CA

#11 Jul 2, 2009
ItsmeJules wrote:
<quoted text>I am tired of so many pointed fingers, pointing in the direction of everyone else but those who have made the bad judgemnt call. It's unfortunate that any of these companies has had to pay for negligence and improper parenting. I really just want to see more people say "I did this" I am an addict of my own accord" I chose to misuse pain meds not prescribed to me" the list just goes on infinitely of the "I" s. Just once I would like to see people admit to thier shortcomings and not look to blame others for them. How is it that I am able to take pain meds for years and follow a docs directions but the minute that someone does something different than what they are told, the blame is put on the ones with the most money, the ones who will pay the most, drug companies. Is it really their fault that people misuse and abuse their meds, that they go looking for drug dealers to sell them what they want and when they die from an overdose that their survivors put the blame on the manufacturers of these drugs? I think not. These companies did not tell them to misuse and abuse, did not send them out to the street to procure them. It's just plain silly what we as a society are willing to accept as logical and reasonable blame. That there is always someone looking to pass the buck. I am all over the place with this post, happens when I am passionate about something, should try and organize the thoughts before responding but have to go out and wanted to respond before I left.
if the pharm had promoted oxy responsibly its likely the problem woudnt be so great. peeps were abusing pain killers before oxycontin but the abuse chart most certainly upticked after purdue stepped in it. oxycodone sure isnt new but the prob got out of control when it magically became oxycontin. how those f cukers got a patent of reformulating an existing product ill never understand. its the same! but different. yeah peeps gots to be responsible for their own actions but for gods sake how the f uck are they getting it so easy? if the pharms were equally as interested in control as they are profit it might be a little tougher for 15 year olds to get. im not sympathetic to giant gloms pharms whatever that defend themselves in the name of profit. gotta luv capitalism. dont get me wrong i would have it any other way but somethings wrong
realtrouble

Westminster, CA

#12 Jul 2, 2009
ItsmeJules wrote:
<quoted text>I am tired of so many pointed fingers, pointing in the direction of everyone else but those who have made the bad judgemnt call. It's unfortunate that any of these companies has had to pay for negligence and improper parenting. I really just want to see more people say "I did this" I am an addict of my own accord" I chose to misuse pain meds not prescribed to me" the list just goes on infinitely of the "I" s. Just once I would like to see people admit to thier shortcomings and not look to blame others for them. How is it that I am able to take pain meds for years and follow a docs directions but the minute that someone does something different than what they are told, the blame is put on the ones with the most money, the ones who will pay the most, drug companies. Is it really their fault that people misuse and abuse their meds, that they go looking for drug dealers to sell them what they want and when they die from an overdose that their survivors put the blame on the manufacturers of these drugs? I think not. These companies did not tell them to misuse and abuse, did not send them out to the street to procure them. It's just plain silly what we as a society are willing to accept as logical and reasonable blame. That there is always someone looking to pass the buck. I am all over the place with this post, happens when I am passionate about something, should try and organize the thoughts before responding but have to go out and wanted to respond before I left.
one last thing before i crawl out of here who is pointing the finger elsewhere? when an addict points the finger at the pmc in florida that takes fake mris and write scripts like theres no tomorrow i think he might be a little bit right. its his problem but wtf? why is this being permitted? and the docs that write the scripts should be in jail along with the f uckers that work along side them. hippocratic oath my ass. and when an addict points the finger elsewhere who really believes that crap anyways? it was rhetorical. i have to go do good things to bad people now
Shut Up

Canonsburg, PA

#13 Jul 2, 2009
FreshMeatz wrote:
Big Pharma corporations are worse then pushers on the streets, their cost is inflated just as a local street dealer, their dope kills the same, just as a street pusher. what is the difference? Ohh I forgot they are Governmental regulated to sell dope at inflated prices , regardless of youth recourse..
Great corporate country WE have huh? Why buy it when you can steal it from your mommy and daddy's medicine cabinet? amazing! Black market pharma sales are more dangerous and widely available compared to scoring a rock in downtown Omaha.
The last time I checked, drug companies don't cut their "dope" with powdered milk, among other things, and I'm pretty sure that crack use is more harmful than just about any pharmaceutical.

Just say no to crack.
piercit

United States

#14 Jul 2, 2009
realtrouble wrote:
<quoted text>
if the pharm had promoted oxy responsibly its likely the problem woudnt be so great. peeps were abusing pain killers before oxycontin but the abuse chart most certainly upticked after purdue stepped in it. oxycodone sure isnt new but the prob got out of control when it magically became oxycontin. how those f cukers got a patent of reformulating an existing product ill never understand. its the same! but different. yeah peeps gots to be responsible for their own actions but for gods sake how the f uck are they getting it so easy? if the pharms were equally as interested in control as they are profit it might be a little tougher for 15 year olds to get. im not sympathetic to giant gloms pharms whatever that defend themselves in the name of profit. gotta luv capitalism. dont get me wrong i would have it any other way but somethings wrong
Man I cannot believe I' defending big pharm here, because I am not.

I am just defending the logic. How many kids are killed everyday, because of alchol, how many people per year, not to mention destroyed families, suicides etc.

Where is the outrage for them, are they any less dead?

Should we all blame budwiser?

peace
piercit

Since: Dec 08

Norwalk, CT

#15 Jul 2, 2009
realtrouble wrote:
<quoted text>
one last thing before i crawl out of here who is pointing the finger elsewhere? when an addict points the finger at the pmc in florida that takes fake mris and write scripts like theres no tomorrow i think he might be a little bit right. its his problem but wtf? why is this being permitted? and the docs that write the scripts should be in jail along with the f uckers that work along side them. hippocratic oath my ass. and when an addict points the finger elsewhere who really believes that crap anyways? it was rhetorical. i have to go do good things to bad people now
You know there is no arguing that it is a highly controversial topic and everyone has their own ideas about who is at fault and who could've stopped it. It's also very obvious that many hands are in the jar and it is difficult to really find just one person to unload all of the blame onto but my point is that people who do wrong, whether it be illegally prescribing, selling or taking these drugs, these people need to take responsibility for their own part in this issue. I hate to see people who knowingly do wrong time and time again, try to point at someone else who they think should take the blame. Passing the buck around is a great american pass time with new and improved ways of doing it. Just take your lumps people. I know a few people in my life who have had problems with prescription drugs, they know that this is their problem, no one else's, not the docs who wrote their scripts, not the pharmacists who filled them and certainly not the manufacturers who made them. They know that they and they alone caused their current problems and it is only they who can fix it. Now whether or not Pharma should have advertised with warnings, well that may very well be true, just like tobacco companies are now forced to advertise the risks one assumes when smoking, maybe they should be held to a similar standard but the bottom line remains the same, self responsibility and restraint remains number one on my list. Then maybe let's impose some restrictions on the manufacturers but not blame, at least not the lions share of it.
realtrouble

Westminster, CA

#16 Jul 2, 2009
piercit wrote:
<quoted text>
Man I cannot believe I' defending big pharm here, because I am not.
I am just defending the logic. How many kids are killed everyday, because of alchol, how many people per year, not to mention destroyed families, suicides etc.
Where is the outrage for them, are they any less dead?
Should we all blame budwiser?
peace
piercit
focus. one at a time
realtrouble

Westminster, CA

#17 Jul 2, 2009
piercit wrote:
<quoted text>
Man I cannot believe I' defending big pharm here, because I am not.
I am just defending the logic. How many kids are killed everyday, because of alchol, how many people per year, not to mention destroyed families, suicides etc.
Where is the outrage for them, are they any less dead?
Should we all blame budwiser?
peace
piercit
f uck it blame budwiper i hate that crap anyways
realtrouble

Westminster, CA

#18 Jul 2, 2009
out
Curious Jorje

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#19 Jul 2, 2009
FreshMeatz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ohh you mean your 5th grade spelling education that shows in your post?
Or your 5 paragraphs of rhetoric that does nothing ,but show your desire to spark another rookie net warrior?
An lastly you must be a disgruntled pharmacist?
Miguided? you mean misguided?,
just like your spelling, your logic is all full of errors!
Nuff said, Nuff respect
Whats funny is that I can guarantee that I could kick your ass up and down the street in any spelling contest...
theyre called TYPOS, genius. It had nothing to do with my ability to spell, it has to do with using a keyboard that has letters that stick and buttons that dont press down all the way, a keyboard and the fact that it was early in the morning and I was in a hurry to pwn your ass while running out the door.

Since I pwned you with the truth, now I will pwn you with a taste of your own medicine.

I felt it unnecessary to run back through and pretty everything up for you because I thought I was talking to an adult, an adult who would have the ability to understand and deal with the content of the things I said, not a little child-like punk who has to use ad hominem attacks because he/she was outsmarted and then nitpick about every little thing in order to try and put me down. This is common amongst people that can not hold their own in a debate, ad hominem attacks, strawman arguments, rabbit trails, red herrings, etcetera, etcetera.

Lets put you under the microscope for a bit!

"Or your 5 paragraphs of rhetoric that does nothing ,but show your desire to spark another rookie net warrior?"

Oh, tsk, tsk. Misplacement of the comma after the word nothing.

And please, define rhetoric to me, you've used the word improperly, again, an ad hom because you can't refute the truth. Oh, but you spelled it right, so I guess truth doesnt matter.

Let's keep going....

"but show your desire to spark another rookie net warrior?"

To spark another rookie net warrior TO WHAT? Or is the end result of my sparking the creation of a net warrior?

See, this sentence is a declaration not an inquiry, the question mark is not to be used.

"An lastly you must be a disgruntled pharmacist?
Miguided? you mean misguided?,"

Wow, for a critic, you sure make a lot of mistakes. In a sentence making fun of me forgetting a letter, you forget the letter d on the word and, are you that much of a lop?

Do you see that little period underneath the curly line that looks like a hook? Thats called a period, it means the sentence is over. Your placement of a comma after a question mark is another utter fail. Sorry.

Do yourself a favor, when you are going to rip into a person for improper spelling, I would do my ABSOLUTE best not to f*cking PWN myself, it truly makes you look like a hypocritical dipshit.

Also, "lastly" means lastly, it means you are finished and this is your last point, you don't say "lastly" and then make more remarks. When you do so, it is no longer "lastly" and you have botched the English language yet another time.

Then we have this;

"Just like your spelling, your logic is all full of errors"

Improper placement of the word all. In english composition of speech you would use only the word ALL or FULL, not both, by doing so you have created a redundancy.

Or did you think you were creating hyperbole? lol

"Just like your spelling, your logic is full of errors."

OR

"Just like your spelling, all of your logic is in error.

These would be two acceptable forms of the sentence you tried to use.

And lastly, do yourself a favor. Get ALL of your shit together before you try and play with the BIG BOYS!!! PWNED!! Respect that!
Curious Jorje

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#20 Jul 2, 2009
realtrouble wrote:
<quoted text>
if the pharm had promoted oxy responsibly its likely the problem woudnt be so great. peeps were abusing pain killers before oxycontin but the abuse chart most certainly upticked after purdue stepped in it. oxycodone sure isnt new but the prob got out of control when it magically became oxycontin. how those f cukers got a patent of reformulating an existing product ill never understand. its the same! but different. yeah peeps gots to be responsible for their own actions but for gods sake how the f uck are they getting it so easy? if the pharms were equally as interested in control as they are profit it might be a little tougher for 15 year olds to get. im not sympathetic to giant gloms pharms whatever that defend themselves in the name of profit. gotta luv capitalism. dont get me wrong i would have it any other way but somethings wrong
No, Jules is right. They capitalized off of the fact that they didnt do MORE to educate people on the dangers, not because they didnt do this, but because some lawyer found a way to show they didnt do enough. Do you honestly think Purdue Pharma didnt place labels and told people that there was no possibility of addiction?

Just because they payed the money doesnt mean they were actually wrong, from what I know, Purdue does a lot to educate and help, and they plead guilty in order to move forward, if they hadnt they could be off the market right now, as we speak. They knew what they were doing so they took the slap on the hand (600 million, more like a slap on the ole nutsack, ouch!) and certain people accepted the fall and now they have been able to move on.

If you TRULY believe they were at fault, I would like to see the evidence, not a news article that says "Purdue was accused of such and such and pled guilty having to pay a 600 million dollar fine" I mean show me what the charges were and just exactly how they were found guilty.

Just because the news says something, doesnt mean its the truth, you know they spin everything. All we really know is what we are told and sold, unless youve done extensive research into the case, all you can do is parrot what youve read in articles, heard on news or seen people talk about in chat forums.

Well, anyways, I like the realtrouble a hell of a lot more than the imposter..lol
What a conundrum.

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