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NC gov's exit shakes up vote on gay marriage ban

There are 26 comments on the KTUL-TV Tulsa story from Jan 27, 2012, titled NC gov's exit shakes up vote on gay marriage ban. In it, KTUL-TV Tulsa reports that:

Something unexpected happened on the way to North Carolina's vote on a gay marriage ban this May: Democratic Gov.

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“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#21 Jan 29, 2012
nhjeff wrote:
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So do you think that we should emphasize Maine and Washington (and possibly Maryland) with our limited resources? Let Minnesota and North Carolina fall?
Going into this, I would have expected Minnesota to mount a credible defense against the amendment. From what I've seen, however, North Carolina has a far more spirited defense. Broad polls opposing an amendment are somewhat encouraging, but I think three things will kill us badly in North Carolina: Demographics, the questions actually being asked by pollsters, and the differences in answers people provide to pollsters and in private.
Bottom line, I think North Carolinans are likely to be convinced that the amendment preserves status quo, and that they will oppose change in large percentages. But I can't see that Minnesota is even defending itself.
So shall we just throw all our support to the two states that might win?
I think we should win where we can......and fight the battles in states like NC and Minnesota when we have more states on board.....but that's just my thoughts on this.
Tucksun Jack

Tucson, AZ

#22 Jan 29, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
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I think we should win where we can......and fight the battles in states like NC and Minnesota when we have more states on board.....but that's just my thoughts on this.
I agree. The more states we win in will force the issue to SCOTUS sooner.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#23 Jan 30, 2012
nhjeff wrote:
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So do you think that we should emphasize Maine and Washington (and possibly Maryland) with our limited resources? Let Minnesota and North Carolina fall?
Going into this, I would have expected Minnesota to mount a credible defense against the amendment. From what I've seen, however, North Carolina has a far more spirited defense. Broad polls opposing an amendment are somewhat encouraging, but I think three things will kill us badly in North Carolina: Demographics, the questions actually being asked by pollsters, and the differences in answers people provide to pollsters and in private.
Bottom line, I think North Carolinans are likely to be convinced that the amendment preserves status quo, and that they will oppose change in large percentages. But I can't see that Minnesota is even defending itself.
So shall we just throw all our support to the two states that might win?
That's what my strategy is. While it's possible we could win in MD, MN, and even NC, it's just not very probable. No one will be suprised if we lose any of those.

Maine & Washington are clearly our best chances for winning. Polling shows support at greater than 50% in both states, which is important because "undecideds" almost always vote against us.

I think at this point we need the win- A WIN, ANY WIN- at the polling booth. That will be the clearest indication of a shift in public opinion. We started with a couple of judicial decisions, the got our first legislative victories, now we need to complete the trifecta. Otherwise we may be looking at just 6 states for years to come.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#24 Jan 30, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
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I think we should win where we can......and fight the battles in states like NC and Minnesota when we have more states on board.....but that's just my thoughts on this.
To put things in perspective-

Who would have thought we'd be in the position of having to decide which of the 7 states with action on marriage equality should receive the bulk of our support, all in the same year?!

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#25 Jan 30, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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To put things in perspective-
Who would have thought we'd be in the position of having to decide which of the 7 states with action on marriage equality should receive the bulk of our support, all in the same year?!
Well, there were what? 13 states with fights we didn't ask for in 2004?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#26 Jan 30, 2012
nhjeff wrote:
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Well, there were what? 13 states with fights we didn't ask for in 2004?
True, but this year it feels like we're on the offensive for once! I know we won't win all the battles this year or even next, but it certainly does feel like the focus has shifted.

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