Big sodas today; bagels with a schmee...

Big sodas today; bagels with a schmeer tomorrow?

There are 25 comments on the KRMG-AM Tulsa story from Jun 1, 2012, titled Big sodas today; bagels with a schmeer tomorrow?. In it, KRMG-AM Tulsa reports that:

In New York City - which already bans smoking in public parks in the name of public health and bars artificial trans fats from food served in restaurants - Mayor Michael Bloomberg now wants to stop sales of large sodas and other sugary drinks, in a bid to battle obesity.

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Pull My Finger

Medford, NY

#1 Jun 1, 2012
Never mind large size sodas and drinks, just place a ban on big butts and guts.
Joey Sanchez

AOL

#2 Jun 1, 2012
The Mayor is merely acknowledging that New Yorks are brain dead morons who can't be allowed to make even the smallest decisions.
He is just facing the reality that NYers don't measure up to other Americans and need to be treated like children.

No American Citizen with a spine or a back bone would put up with such Big Brother domineering crap.
Freedom

Chicago, IL

#3 Jun 1, 2012
First they came for the smokers....

“Watch out for that tree”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#4 Jun 1, 2012
instead of this - why not limit the fatasses to fruit juice & water? let everyone w/control have what they want.
Freedom

Chicago, IL

#5 Jun 1, 2012
Peter Pine wrote:
instead of this - why not limit the fatasses to fruit juice & water? let everyone w/control have what they want.
This sounds right up your alley...eh?

http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2008/pdf/his...

MISSISSIPPI LEGISLATURE

To: Public Health and Human Services; Judiciary B

By: Representative Mayhall, Read, Shows

House Bill 282
AN ACT TO PROHIBIT CERTAIN FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS FROM SERVING FOOD TO ANY PERSON WHO IS OBESE, BASED ON CRITERIA PRESCRIBED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH; TO DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT TO PREPARE WRITTEN MATERIALS THAT DESCRIBE AND EXPLAIN THE CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING WHETHER A PERSON IS OBESE AND TO PROVIDE THOSE MATERIALS TO THE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS; TO DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT TO MONITOR THE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ACT; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI:

SECTION 1.(1) The provisions of this section shall apply to any food establishment that is required to obtain a permit from the State Department of Health under Section 41-3-15(4)(f), that operates primarily in an enclosed facility and that has five (5) or more seats for customers.

(2) Any food establishment to which this section applies shall not be allowed to serve food to any person who is obese, based on criteria prescribed by the State Department of Health after consultation with the Mississippi Council on Obesity Prevention and Management established under Section 41-101-1 or its successor. The State Department of Health shall prepare written materials that describe and explain the criteria for determining whether a person is obese, and shall provide those materials to all food establishments to which this section applies. A food establishment shall be entitled to rely on the criteria for obesity in those written materials when determining whether or not it is allowed to serve food to any person.

(3) The State Department of Health shall monitor the food establishments to which this section applies for compliance with the provisions of this section, and may revoke the permit of any food establishment that repeatedly violates the provisions of this section.
Need A Light

Kitchener, Canada

#6 Jun 1, 2012
Just maybe you will see 2/3 label control on these drinks like smokes a hid behind displays, before for too long you will be going in stores and asking do you have anything I can see before I buy it ?
Ed Ortiz

AOL

#7 Jun 1, 2012
You ought to be asking your Mayor to justify the extortion that is Pub Emp Union "pension spiking"in New York. Your kids will suffer far more from that scheme than from a fatty diet.
Freedom

Chicago, IL

#8 Jun 1, 2012
Need A Light wrote:
Just maybe you will see 2/3 label control on these drinks like smokes a hid behind displays, before for too long you will be going in stores and asking do you have anything I can see before I buy it ?
But of course!

Why...who can defend the Bacon eaters? First they need a warning label, if that does not work a heavy tax...and if that does not work...a ban on where it can be consumed, since they have placed their carnal desires above the common good of all the insured...eh?

(sarcasm off)

“Watch out for that tree”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#9 Jun 1, 2012
Freedom wrote:
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This sounds right up your alley...eh?
http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2008/pdf/his...
MISSISSIPPI LEGISLATURE
To: Public Health and Human Services; Judiciary B
By: Representative Mayhall, Read, Shows
House Bill 282
AN ACT TO PROHIBIT CERTAIN FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS FROM SERVING FOOD TO ANY PERSON WHO IS OBESE, BASED ON CRITERIA PRESCRIBED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH; TO DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT TO PREPARE WRITTEN MATERIALS THAT DESCRIBE AND EXPLAIN THE CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING WHETHER A PERSON IS OBESE AND TO PROVIDE THOSE MATERIALS TO THE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS; TO DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT TO MONITOR THE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ACT; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI:
SECTION 1.(1) The provisions of this section shall apply to any food establishment that is required to obtain a permit from the State Department of Health under Section 41-3-15(4)(f), that operates primarily in an enclosed facility and that has five (5) or more seats for customers.
(2) Any food establishment to which this section applies shall not be allowed to serve food to any person who is obese, based on criteria prescribed by the State Department of Health after consultation with the Mississippi Council on Obesity Prevention and Management established under Section 41-101-1 or its successor. The State Department of Health shall prepare written materials that describe and explain the criteria for determining whether a person is obese, and shall provide those materials to all food establishments to which this section applies. A food establishment shall be entitled to rely on the criteria for obesity in those written materials when determining whether or not it is allowed to serve food to any person.
(3) The State Department of Health shall monitor the food establishments to which this section applies for compliance with the provisions of this section, and may revoke the permit of any food establishment that repeatedly violates the provisions of this section.
kinda sounds like what they have for NY bars not being allowed to serve anyone who appears shitfaced.
Freedom

Chicago, IL

#10 Jun 1, 2012
Peter Pine wrote:
<quoted text>kinda sounds like what they have for NY bars not being allowed to serve anyone who appears shitfaced.
Eeerrrrr...what if they have not eaten all day? Your comparison is quite silly.

Don't worry oh self righteous one...your day will come.
Need A Light

Kitchener, Canada

#11 Jun 1, 2012
Freedom wrote:
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But of course!
Why...who can defend the Bacon eaters? First they need a warning label, if that does not work a heavy tax...and if that does not work...a ban on where it can be consumed, since they have placed their carnal desires above the common good of all the insured...eh?
(sarcasm off)
Ah ! and smoked bacon too! Non Smokers don't eat that in Public places do they ?

“Watch out for that tree”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#12 Jun 1, 2012
Freedom wrote:
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Eeerrrrr...what if they have not eaten all day? Your comparison is quite silly.
Don't worry oh self righteous one...your day will come.
please explain oh chugger of the big gulps.

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#13 Jun 1, 2012
Government is officially out of control...
TK Lawson CPhT

United States

#14 Jun 1, 2012
Ban cola drinks over 16 ounces in NYC ? No one will back that law. They will order two drinks instead. Ban donuts, chocolate cake, bacon and eggs, a slippery slope if I ever heard one. In Calif schools they did replace diet drinks for sugary ones. I can live with that. You will have "a black market in cola" in Calif they close liquor stores at 2 pm.( not in NY) we just have more at home. No ammo sales in NY? Go to NJ or elsewhere. You cannot ban everything bad or unhealthy. Best intentions are OK, but people get mighty thirsty !
Freedom

Chicago, IL

#15 Jun 1, 2012
Need A Light wrote:
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Ah ! and smoked bacon too! Non Smokers don't eat that in Public places do they ?
Sure to bring a smile to all of the fanatical control freaks... LOL

http://www.chow.com/stories/10480

Secondhand Barbecue Smoke
Can vegetarians demand meat-free environments?
By Helena Echlin
Dear Helena,

A big group of friends and I were trying to figure out a bar to go to. The obvious choice was Zeitgeist, a popular San Francisco bar with a giant outdoor beer garden. But I nixed the choice, because I’m vegetarian and that place always stinks of hamburgers from their outdoor grill.

My one friend and I got into a big fight about it. She said,“But you used to eat meat and not mind the smell. You make everybody’s life difficult because of your personal choice.”

Yes, it was harder to decide on a bar because of me, but I feel that because the first-choice bar made me gag, that was a legitimate reason to not want to go there.

Is it OK for vegetarians to insist on meat-free environments, even if it means distressing nonvegetarians? And what’s the best strategy for getting your way without alienating your friends?—Ooh That Smell
Freedom

Chicago, IL

#16 Jun 1, 2012
Peter Pine wrote:
<quoted text> please explain oh chugger of the big gulps.
Does this actually go over your head? Seems you forgot the fact that by protecting others rights....you defend your own.

Well, unless you are a fanatical Vegan...Big Brother has a plan for you as well...it's only a matter of time, unless of course normal thinking folks kick your kind out of office.

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/gyrobase/C...

Should we be taxed for eating animals?

The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization found in 2006 that livestock production generates 18 percent of greenhouse gases worldwide — more than the entire transportation sector of cars, trucks, planes, and ships combined.

Meat and dairy production is predicted by the U.N. to double in the next 40 years

The U.N.'s 2006 report concluded that the meat industry is "one of the most significant contributors to the most serious environmental problems, at every scale from local to global," and that eating meat contributes to "problems of land degradation, climate change and air pollution, water shortage and water pollution, and loss of biodiversity."

The University of Chicago found that switching to a vegan diet is 50 percent more effective at fighting global warming than trading in a standard car for a hybrid.
TK Lawson CPhT

United States

#17 Jun 1, 2012
Oh boy.... another unenforcable law. I'm getting a bit paranoid ! Subject to fine or imprisonment for merely existing. Seatbelt violation -$$240.00, expired registration on car- tow away- 350.00 and 500.00 fine- I know the Gov't is bankrupt, but I get somewhat afraid to go outside - I just may be in violation ! What are you doing here? Where are you going ? Where have you come from ? Don't lie ! ID ! Are you armed? I'll have to search your car, your under detention- do this - do that - go here- go there - your papieren Sind night alles inorgnung ! Achtung! HALT !
Freedom

Chicago, IL

#18 Jun 1, 2012
TK Lawson CPhT wrote:
Oh boy.... another unenforcable law. I'm getting a bit paranoid ! Subject to fine or imprisonment for merely existing. Seatbelt violation -$$240.00, expired registration on car- tow away- 350.00 and 500.00 fine- I know the Gov't is bankrupt, but I get somewhat afraid to go outside - I just may be in violation ! What are you doing here? Where are you going ? Where have you come from ? Don't lie ! ID ! Are you armed? I'll have to search your car, your under detention- do this - do that - go here- go there - your papieren Sind night alles inorgnung ! Achtung! HALT !
History is simply repeating itself, as Socialists with a desperate need to control others are certainly nothing new.

http://www.pierrelemieux.org/artproctor.html

The relationship between fascism and public health is probably more symbiotic than Proctor admits. After reading The Nazi War on Cancer, the careful reader will be well positioned to understand why fascism requires strong public health policies.

For the fascist State needs "valuable human material" -- or, as we would say today, healthy "human resources". Nazi slogans reported by Proctor are more explicit than what present-day crusaders would dare to employ: "Your body belongs to the nation!" "You have the duty to be healthy!" "Food is not a private matter!"

Again anticipating today's health fascists, the Nazis' National Accounting Office outlined the so-called economic costs of smoking. Erwin Liek, sometimes called the father of Nazi medicine, thought that curing cancer required moving from "care of the individual" to "cancer prevention on a large scale -- for the entire people" (p. 25).

“Watch out for that tree”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#19 Jun 1, 2012
Freedom wrote:
<quoted text>
Does this actually go over your head? Seems you forgot the fact that by protecting others rights....you defend your own.
Well, unless you are a fanatical Vegan...Big Brother has a plan for you as well...it's only a matter of time, unless of course normal thinking folks kick your kind out of office.
http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/gyrobase/C...
Should we be taxed for eating animals?
The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization found in 2006 that livestock production generates 18 percent of greenhouse gases worldwide — more than the entire transportation sector of cars, trucks, planes, and ships combined.
Meat and dairy production is predicted by the U.N. to double in the next 40 years
The U.N.'s 2006 report concluded that the meat industry is "one of the most significant contributors to the most serious environmental problems, at every scale from local to global," and that eating meat contributes to "problems of land degradation, climate change and air pollution, water shortage and water pollution, and loss of biodiversity."
The University of Chicago found that switching to a vegan diet is 50 percent more effective at fighting global warming than trading in a standard car for a hybrid.
no - this doesn't go over my head - but i think it went over yours. we've already lost our rights & are taxed dearly/pay heavily for any privileges we wish to have. and if you believe in global warming - you've been brainwashed.
Need A Light

Kitchener, Canada

#20 Jun 1, 2012
Sneaky Pete wrote:
Government is officially out of control...
It all started the day they were entrusted with TAX money.
If there were one ban that would really make sense it would be that all government BACK DOORS be sealed shut.

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