Should Mormons support Muslims?

Should Mormons support Muslims?

There are 69 comments on the Deseret News story from Mar 13, 2011, titled Should Mormons support Muslims?. In it, Deseret News reports that:

Members of a mistrusted religion were brought before Congress for hearings. They were grilled on every aspect of their faith and lives.

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no more stone age

Surrey, Canada

#41 Mar 16, 2011
Tao Master wrote:
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The priests and preachers won't admit it, but Jesus promised 100 wives to every man who followed him, but only if they would abandon their own wife and children to suffer hunger and poverty.
Jesus said in Matthew 19.29 "Whoever has abandoned ... wives and children ... for me and the gospel shall receive ONE HUNDRED TIMES AS MANY IN THIS LIFE plus eternal life in the world to come."
So show me where this false promise of Jesus was ever fulfilled in the new testament or in church history. The only group that tried to fulfill it was the Oneida group of christians in New York (1800's) that shared their wives with each other, each man sleeping with his neighbor's wife every month so they would sleep with 12 wives every year. That would still take nine years. The group collapsed when the founder's son turned atheist and disbanded the group and sold the property. So much for Jesus and his false promises of 100 wives for every man!
you should write scripts for bolywood, you have a rich imagination.
ORLY

Mount Morris, MI

#42 Mar 23, 2011
MadMike wrote:
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Then your mission here is to discredit not only Islam, but ALL religions, right? You're saying that ANYBODY who believes in God is a misguided idiot? Your vitriolic rhetoric toward "believers" indicates to me that you may not feel totally secure in your beliefs. Otherwise you wouldn't be this hateful toward those who disagree.
Isn't that what is going on here? People spewing hateful, vitriolic rhetoric toward others whom believe differently? They must not be very secure in their beliefs. Otherwise they wouldn't be so hateful towards others.

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#43 Mar 23, 2011
ORLY wrote:
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Isn't that what is going on here? People spewing hateful, vitriolic rhetoric toward others whom believe differently? They must not be very secure in their beliefs. Otherwise they wouldn't be so hateful towards others.
Obviously you are so obliviously to reality that you believe hateful attitudes only come from insecurity.

Most hateful attitudes come from hateful acts of those they hate.
ORLY

Mount Morris, MI

#44 Mar 23, 2011
Wilberhum wrote:
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Obviously you are so obliviously to reality that you believe hateful attitudes only come from insecurity.
Most hateful attitudes come from hateful acts of those they hate.
Which are usually based on religious beliefs. Hateful beliefs full of hate. Like a great big hate sandwich, with a side of animosity and a glass of intolerance.
no more stone age

Kamloops, Canada

#45 Mar 23, 2011
Wilberhum wrote:
I think Mormons should support Muslims to the same extent that Muslims support Mormons.
Mormons have finally come int acceptance and are no longer the most hated religion in America. I guess Michael De Groote wants to return to that status.
I wonder what he would think people would feel about the Mormons building a 'Victory Temple' at Mountain Meadows.
why stop there?
long live the mormon branch of hamas.

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#46 Mar 23, 2011
ORLY wrote:
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Which are usually based on religious beliefs. Hateful beliefs full of hate. Like a great big hate sandwich, with a side of animosity and a glass of intolerance.
You mean religious beliefs that flying planes into buildings will please god?

I don't mind so much about what someone believes. My hate is based on what is done.
ORLY

Mount Morris, MI

#47 Mar 23, 2011
Wilberhum wrote:
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You mean religious beliefs that flying planes into buildings will please god?
I don't mind so much about what someone believes. My hate is based on what is done.
And Christians have done some horrible things. Is it a wonder why people hate them?

“There Is One Truth! Jesus!”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#48 Mar 23, 2011
Haw Haw wrote:
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Oh, but they have much more... In common with Muslims that is...
* They both were founded by charlatans
* They both have silly dietary laws
* They both treat women like chattal
* They both crave theocratic fundamentalist states
* They each have their own special book
* They both thrive in desert climates
* They both are autocratic and coercive
You forgot to mention two things which clearly distinguishes Mormonism from Islam.

Mormonism is a 'religion of peace'!

Islam is not!

Nor is Islam a religion!

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#49 Mar 23, 2011
ORLY wrote:
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And Christians have done some horrible things. Is it a wonder why people hate them?
In the last 100 years:
Did the Christians do those horrible things because of their religion or in spite of it?
ORLY

Mount Morris, MI

#50 Mar 23, 2011
Xcaliber wrote:
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You forgot to mention two things which clearly distinguishes Mormonism from Islam.
Mormonism is a 'religion of peace'!
Islam is not!
Nor is Islam a religion!
The only difference between religion and cult is the number of people involved.
Quiet_Dave

Tucson, AZ

#51 Mar 23, 2011
Thunder-Girl wrote:
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Actually the Muslims would be jealous, Mormons can have as many wives as they want! Mormons are also known to force young girls to marry old men and even commit incest. The FBI occasionally raids Mormon communities looking for offenders and law breakers especially in Utah.
I really wish you would distinguish between an apostate cult of a few hundred and the regularly recognized Church of 14+ millions based out of SLC, UT. The one still practices polygamy, the other hasn't since 1890 and excommunicates those that do.
Quiet_Dave

Tucson, AZ

#52 Mar 23, 2011
MadMike wrote:
Brigham Young and his Mormon followers ambushed and murdered 10,000-or-so other Mormons who were flocking to Utah to join the Church of Latter Day Saints. He had reached an agreement with Utah's Territorial Governor that no more followers be allowed in Utah for fear that they would overrun the state. If I'm lyin', I'm dyin'. Can't make this stuff up.
Well, you ARE dying, by degrees like all of us; but you are also LYING.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#53 Mar 23, 2011
Quiet_Dave wrote:
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I really wish you would distinguish between an apostate cult of a few hundred and the regularly recognized Church of 14+ millions based out of SLC, UT. The one still practices polygamy, the other hasn't since 1890 and excommunicates those that do.
Yes, Mr. Not-So-Quiet_Dave...

But tell the whole story, please... Like that the only reason that it was dropped was that they were made to do so by the US Government as a condition for statehood. It wasn't considered "Revelation" until decades later. Polygamy remains official doctrine of the so-called "Church" of much less than 14+ million based out of SLC, UT (see D&C Section #132). And according to the latest (2010) version of the super-secret LDS Handbook that was available via the Internet:

a) Women remain sealed to their temple husbands even after they have been divorced unless the man agrees to be "un-sealed". Women thus blocked cannot re-marry in the temple; the men are free to marry in the temple again and be sealed to both living wives.

b) Of course, after death, these temple marriages continue. So any widower who remarries remains sealed to his former wife/wives - so many of the 12 apostles are polygamists today

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#54 Mar 23, 2011
Jesus must have been a Mormon because in the Catholic Church they marry him to all the nuns.....I guess he doesn't have sex with them but he sure has clean laundry, dinner and a clean house!
Quiet_Dave

Tucson, AZ

#55 Mar 24, 2011
Haw Haw wrote:
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Yes, Mr. Not-So-Quiet_Dave...
But tell the whole story, please... Like that the only reason that it was dropped was that they were made to do so by the US Government as a condition for statehood. It wasn't considered "Revelation" until decades later. Polygamy remains official doctrine of the so-called "Church" of much less than 14+ million based out of SLC, UT (see D&C Section #132). And according to the latest (2010) version of the super-secret LDS Handbook that was available via the Internet:
a) Women remain sealed to their temple husbands even after they have been divorced unless the man agrees to be "un-sealed". Women thus blocked cannot re-marry in the temple; the men are free to marry in the temple again and be sealed to both living wives.
b) Of course, after death, these temple marriages continue. So any widower who remarries remains sealed to his former wife/wives - so many of the 12 apostles are polygamists today
I guess it isn't so "super secret" if you read it on the internet.:D

Also, all vows and covenants made in the temples and chapels of the Church come with the caveat of "obedience" to the restored Gospel and "faithfulness" to the end.
Quiet_Dave

Tucson, AZ

#56 Mar 24, 2011
hoho wrote:
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'second'thing in common btwn them-they both believe that Jesus was a prophet n not the son of G-D.
You REALLY got that one wrong. Mormons believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and that God is a perfect and glorified man with a physical body of flesh and bone.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#57 Mar 24, 2011
ORLY wrote:
<quoted text>Isn't that what is going on here? People spewing hateful, vitriolic rhetoric toward others whom believe differently? They must not be very secure in their beliefs. Otherwise they wouldn't be so hateful towards others.
Yes. Why do those beliefs always end up hating/shunning/discounting minority groups? I really wish one of these f'krs would have the balls to be honest
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#58 Mar 25, 2011
NoMo wrote:
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Yes. Why do those beliefs always end up hating/shunning/discounting minority groups? I really wish one of these f'krs would have the balls to be honest
Well you have seen how the lowest minions, such as Not-So-Quiet Dave like to dance around the truth in the smallest ways; why would you not expect the lead profits to be virtuoso liars???
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#59 Mar 25, 2011
Quiet_Dave wrote:
<quoted text> I guess it isn't so "super secret" if you read it on the internet.:D
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It was obtained in a most clandestine manner as a pdf download during the 48 hours prior to publication and official copyright (c) by The Church of Joseph's Myth of Latter-Day Magic Underwear. Thanks to the ceaseless efforts of information dissemination and sharp observation skills of very helpful ex-members who frequent these forums.

(Hint - that wouldn't be you)
Quadratus

United States

#60 Mar 25, 2011
ORLY wrote:
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Isn't that what is going on here? People spewing hateful, vitriolic rhetoric toward others whom believe differently? They must not be very secure in their beliefs. Otherwise they wouldn't be so hateful towards others.
That's exactly what's happening. An unthreatened person remains civil.

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