Obama stirs racial passions in Harvar...

Obama stirs racial passions in Harvard case

There are 2195 comments on the www.reuters.com story from Jul 23, 2009, titled Obama stirs racial passions in Harvard case. In it, www.reuters.com reports that:

President Barack Obama plunged his presidency into a charged racial debate and set off a firestorm in one of America's most liberal bastions by siding with a black Harvard scholar who accuses police of racism.

Saying he was unaware of "all the facts" but that police in Cambridge, Massachusetts, "acted stupidly" in their arrest of Henry Louis Gates, Obama whipped up emotions on both sides of an issue that threatens to open old wounds in Massachusetts.

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Since: Sep 08

Akron, OH

#400 Jul 24, 2009
The whole arrest situation was absolutely ridiculous!Had this been an older white Professor/white man...this wouldn't have happened.If Professor Gates,was wrong...Why did the city's Mayor,later call him to personally apologize.Unknowingly by her apologizing,she helped Professor Gates's,legal action's!Further more if i'd been the Mayor,and i stuck my neck out on the line...so to speak.You better believe this police Sgt.would give a formal apology.If not i'd happily accept his resignation!!!...God forbid this officer should have to go on national television,and apologize to a Black man!...He'd rather "Run Through Hell With(Gasoline)Drawer's On"

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#401 Jul 24, 2009
Glasnos wrote:
<quoted text>
NO ... you are the idiot that doesn't get it.
The job of our law enforcement is to prevent crime, and arrest criminals. When the police can't profile criminals because of PC rules, we all lose, because they are not doing their job efficiently.
We see this clearly at the airport. It is inefficient ... and helps put us all at risk.
Who was the criminal they were profiling?
YouHelpFixIt

Scottsdale, AZ

#402 Jul 24, 2009
gump wrote:
<quoted text>STUPIDITY & more STUPIDITY . When a report of burgulary , A officer . no matter what color , he responds. A burgular can say he lives there . does the cop take his word for it? He will ask for I D. STUPID response from you.
I thought my sarcasm was thick enough. Obviously not.
Rayroy

United States

#403 Jul 24, 2009
The prof. shouldn't have yelled RACE in a crowded nation.
zoozi

West Des Moines, IA

#405 Jul 24, 2009
The police officer report is out on the web, I read it. It was for disruptive and tumultuous behavior in public or something like that, basically yelling and making a scene, a crowd started to gather, that type of thing.
proud OIF vets dad wrote:
<quoted text>when a police officer asks u for identification while investigating a call one must show proof of who he is... if u don't ur ''obstructing and officer'' and that is against the law...now we don't know for sure what the actual arrest was for.. it was reported it was ''disorderly conduct''.. every state has different criteria for such things... the cops were there not because they wanted to but because they were ordered to...to complain about racism in such a case is just a play of the odumba/soros doctrine of division...

Since: Sep 08

Akron, OH

#406 Jul 24, 2009
In regard's to President Obama's,response to this whole Harvard,situation.During his television world address about Health care.If you recall at the very end of that...A reporter asked him his take on the whole situation!...Before everybody bashes President Obama.He was simply responding to a question asked of him.He never once brought it up.Funny how the Media,will instigate something and then totally turn it around.Making it look as though President Obama,just started mouthing off about the whole mess!!!...Why doesn't the Media,"The Power's That Be"..do the right thing..by telling everyone that President Obama,was asked that question!!!
Glasnos

Apopka, FL

#407 Jul 24, 2009
Mike-Indianapolis wrote:
<quoted text>
46% of homicides are committed by whites...that would suggest a nearly EQUAL level of suspicion that should then be applied.
Level?
With just 13% of the population blacks commit over 50% of the homicides ... and you you think it is equal? LOL
When it comes to violent crime blacks are 6 times more likely to be the perpetrators.
Dan

United States

#408 Jul 24, 2009
Cooler online wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you. This Harvard Professor should have been smart enough to comply with the officer and not turn this into a racial issue. He got the notoriety he was seeking. Racial issues are getting sickening! They have escalated since Obama's election. Obama should have sit this one out! I like the man, I voted for him, and he is doing great work for our country. But stepping into "racial" issues will only bring grief for him. All racial issues will be thrown his way for a response.
The charges were immediately dropped, why? because the officer overreacted and there was no crime committed.

Had a crime been committed coupled with the officer executing his duties in an appropriate manner, the charges would not have been dropped and the perp held accountable.
Jim

Denver, CO

#409 Jul 24, 2009
if the guy refused to show ID......and the report said a black man was trying to break in...then why the surprise?

“42”

Since: Sep 07

Everywhere theres air

#411 Jul 24, 2009
Mike-Indianapolis wrote:
<quoted text>
46% of homicides are committed by whites...that would suggest a nearly EQUAL level of suspicion that should then be applied.
See, now that's an argument you don't want to get into. If you want to get all statistical you'd have to ask what percent of the population each race makes up.
Then you'd need to see what percentage of crime each race makes up.
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From http://www.runet.edu/~junnever/bw.htm
.
Lifetime chances of a person going to prison are higher for
.
-- men (9%) than for women (1.1%)
-- blacks (16.2%) and Hispanics (9.4%) than for whites (2.5%)
.
Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 28% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 16% of Hispanic males and 4.4% of white males.
.
Sixty-five percent of state prison inmates belonged to racial or ethnic minorities in 1991, up from 60% in 1986.
.
At current levels of incarceration newborn black males in this country have a greater than a 1 in 4 chance of going to prison during their lifetimes, while Hispanic males have a 1 in 6 chance, and white males have a 1 in 23 chance of serving time. NCJ 160092
.
The number of drug trafficking convictions in State courts more than doubled between 1986 and1990. Of persons convicted of drug trafficking in State courts in 1990--85% were male 42% were white, 57% black, and 1% of other races.
.
While:
.
Population: as of July of 1999
Total Population 272,330,000
White 224,103,000 82.3%
Black 34,997,000 12.9%
Hispanic 30,461,000 11.2%
Asian 10,861,000 4%
American Indian 2,369,000 .9%
.
I'd like a link to were you found information stating whites commit 46% of the murders in this country. I find that statement suspect, but not impossible.
B B B

Pittsburgh, PA

#412 Jul 24, 2009
Mike-Indianapolis wrote:
<quoted text>
46% of homicides are committed by whites...that would suggest a nearly EQUAL level of suspicion that should then be applied.
Sorry Mike, but what percentage of the Population do Blacks make up vs Whites. Just stating facts, not being racist.

So if there are 8 whites to every 1 black person in the US, yet the homicides are almost even. Doesn't that mean that an african american is 8 times more likely to commit a homicide???

Sorry i don't have census figures in front of me.
zoozi

West Des Moines, IA

#413 Jul 24, 2009
The police officer seems to focus a whole lot less on the races involved then you do. Nothing was said about race being the reason he would not apologize, rather it was because he did nothing wrong, as those in the chain of command above him have said, he followed the rules and followed the laws.

No a post de facto "law" is being applied to his actions, a white must never arrest a black. Its a dumb "law" which isn't a law, just an unwritten rule that some believe exists somewhere in society. It doesn't, at least in this country. Law enforcement should apply the laws equally and fairly without regard to color.

The Mayor is a politician, like Obama, both acted foolishly since that is what politicians do best. Obama at least has a friendship with Gates that probably contributed, the Mayor we can only blame it on politics.
Blackminitrucka wrote:
The whole arrest situation was absolutely ridiculous!Had this been an older white Professor/white man...this wouldn't have happened.If Professor Gates,was wrong...Why did the city's Mayor,later call him to personally apologize.Unknowingly by her apologizing,she helped Professor Gates's,legal action's!Further more if i'd been the Mayor,and i stuck my neck out on the line...so to speak.You better believe this police Sgt.would give a formal apology.If not i'd happily accept his resignation!!!...God forbid this officer should have to go on national television,and apologize to a Black man!...He'd rather "Run Through Hell With(Gasoline)Drawer's On"
jan r

Long Beach, CA

#414 Jul 24, 2009
Obama openly stated that he didn't "have the facts" but proceeded to demonize the Cambridge police ANYWAY.

Be very afraid if you have children or an ounce of decency. Obama is as scary as Comrade Pelosi. Yikes.
B B B

Pittsburgh, PA

#415 Jul 24, 2009
The professor didn't realize that when he tossed the race card that this cop would be so decorated and respected. He thought because of his harvard position that his word would be taken as gold.

Now that this cop has the backing of white AND BLACK officers, it kind of makes the picture a little more hazy and makes you think about the prof and him just yelling the typical race card comment.
Joanne

Cape Coral, FL

#416 Jul 24, 2009
amazed wrote:
Only steers and queers come from TX.
Since you don't look like a steer, that pretty much narrows it down.
Death to racist pigs inbred rednecks.
WOW you are not intelligent at all
Karen

Harrison, NY

#417 Jul 24, 2009
Jay wrote:
Watch any TV police show (Cops, Jail, etc.)...look at how the criminals act...now compare their attitudes to the way many "regular-noncriminal " blacks and hispanics act...notice the similiarities?
Blacks and Hispanics claim they are always picked on...did they ever think it's about respect?
When a white person is pulled over...we know to be respectful to the cop...whether the cop is showing US respect or not...it's always "yes sir" and "no sir" in a POLITE manner. White people UNDERSTAND that the police ARE in charge (no matter the race of the cop.) The cops are the authority..no your equal....whether you like it or not.
Yet Blacks/hispanics automatically rip out an attitude when a cop addresses them. Blacks/hispanics become defiant. THIS IS WHAT CAUSES COPS to flex thier muscle. Blacks/hispanics claim they will respect cops when cops start to respect them...well it doesn't work that way.
If blacks/hispanics would drop their "you have no right to do this to me" attitude and be polite and answer questions the cops ask without an attitude (just like the white people do)...they will see that the cops WILL treat them better.
Take your head out of the sand. Cops do racial profiling. You can't just act like cops are always doing the right thing. You have good ones and bad ones. You forgot to mention white trash trailer park arrest. They can get really ugly to.
Richard

Erie, PA

#418 Jul 24, 2009
If he was unaware of all of the facts why did he say the officer acted stupidly?
Joanne

Cape Coral, FL

#419 Jul 24, 2009
rick haynes wrote:
<quoted text>you were a cop? really now, you think this cop is a racist? he wasnt responding to a call? what planet are you from, and what security agency did you work for. rent a cops do not qualify as real cops
I agree, he is an embarrasement to police everywhere. He sounds like a wannabe
zoozi

West Des Moines, IA

#420 Jul 24, 2009
Blacks have a lower graduation rate. There is a known correlation between becoming involved with crime and graduating. Drug use leads to a higher chance of not completing high school, involvement with other crimes, including violent, involvement with gangs, medical problems (AIDS as one), and other life disrupting events as well.

Illicit drugs are against the law, there is an easy way to avoid getting arrested, don't do it.

Now compare the rates of the various races and ethnic groups that did not complete high-school, lived in poverty, various households (one parent/two parent), family has a conviction, and so on.

They are probably quite similar, its not racial.
Lost to Me wrote:
<quoted text>
See, now that's an argument you don't want to get into. If you want to get all statistical you'd have to ask what percent of the population each race makes up.
Then you'd need to see what percentage of crime each race makes up.
.
From http://www.runet.edu/~junnever/bw.htm
.
Lifetime chances of a person going to prison are higher for
.
-- men (9%) than for women (1.1%)
-- blacks (16.2%) and Hispanics (9.4%) than for whites (2.5%)
.
Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 28% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 16% of Hispanic males and 4.4% of white males.
.
Sixty-five percent of state prison inmates belonged to racial or ethnic minorities in 1991, up from 60% in 1986.
.
At current levels of incarceration newborn black males in this country have a greater than a 1 in 4 chance of going to prison during their lifetimes, while Hispanic males have a 1 in 6 chance, and white males have a 1 in 23 chance of serving time. NCJ 160092
.
The number of drug trafficking convictions in State courts more than doubled between 1986 and1990. Of persons convicted of drug trafficking in State courts in 1990--85% were male 42% were white, 57% black, and 1% of other races.
.
While:
.
Population: as of July of 1999
Total Population 272,330,000
White 224,103,000 82.3%
Black 34,997,000 12.9%
Hispanic 30,461,000 11.2%
Asian 10,861,000 4%
American Indian 2,369,000 .9%
.
I'd like a link to were you found information stating whites commit 46% of the murders in this country. I find that statement suspect, but not impossible.
ken rodgers

Romeoville, IL

#422 Jul 24, 2009
Lost to Me wrote:
Obama probably should have kept out of this one.
One of the reasons he got some many white votes was because he was seen as above the whole race/racist issue.
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By throwing himself into the middle of it, and stirring up the pot if you will, he's only causing trouble. Nothing good can come from his comments.
.
And to admit he doesn't have all the facts but still condemn the officer, sounds kinda Bushy if you ask me.
I agree that to admit you don't have all the facts and STILL scream racism sounds even DUMBER than Dubya

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