Survey says: People are more, not les...

Survey says: People are more, not less, religious

There are 34 comments on the www.statesman.com story from Sep 18, 2008, titled Survey says: People are more, not less, religious. In it, www.statesman.com reports that:

Megachurches can actually be more intimate than small churches? Atheism isn't on the rise despite the best-selling books saying God is a myth? Significant percentages of people believe in miraculous healing and ...

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.statesman.com.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last

“ I Am She SaHum”

Since: Apr 07

World

#1 Sep 19, 2008
I dont agree with parts of the Baylor study for the following reasons:

-Since World War II, the process of people disaffiliating themselves from Christianity had been observed in other countries, like the U.K., other European countries, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. But, until recently, affiliation with Christianity had been at a high level ,about 87% and stable in the U.S.

-The ARIS Study (most accurate survey to date) shows that the number of American adults who identify themselves with Christianity dropped from 86% to 76% between 1991 and 2001.
At the same time we find that 14.1% of americans do not follow any organized religion. This is an unusually rapid increase from only 8% in 1990.

-The Baylor study might show that Atheism is not growing but people who dont follow any faith is having a rapid increase.

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#2 Sep 19, 2008
Want to be Hindu wrote:
I dont agree with parts of the Baylor study for the following reasons:
-Since World War II, the process of people disaffiliating themselves from Christianity had been observed in other countries, like the U.K., other European countries, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. But, until recently, affiliation with Christianity had been at a high level ,about 87% and stable in the U.S.
-The ARIS Study (most accurate survey to date) shows that the number of American adults who identify themselves with Christianity dropped from 86% to 76% between 1991 and 2001.
At the same time we find that 14.1% of americans do not follow any organized religion. This is an unusually rapid increase from only 8% in 1990.
-The Baylor study might show that Atheism is not growing but people who dont follow any faith is having a rapid increase.
http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html
I agree. It appeared they didn't factor in the agnostics. Instead they chose to go after atheists. Atheists scare the hell out of the religious.

“ I Am She SaHum”

Since: Apr 07

World

#3 Sep 20, 2008
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree. It appeared they didn't factor in the agnostics. Instead they chose to go after atheists. Atheists scare the hell out of the religious.
Yes I have been told on topix. You might be a Hindu but at least your not an atheist.
Cruzader99

Atlanta, GA

#4 Sep 21, 2008
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree. It appeared they didn't factor in the agnostics. Instead they chose to go after atheists. Atheists scare the hell out of the religious.
I am not afraid of you. I feel sorry for you really.
Lucifer

Halifax, UK

#5 Sep 22, 2008
Cruzader99 wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not afraid of you. I feel sorry for you really.
How is your invisible friend today?
Pat

Granby, CT

#6 Sep 22, 2008
The ignorant masses will always be the ignorant masses. If atheism were actually on the rise it would probably mean that general intelligence was also on the rise.
John

Ozark, MO

#7 Sep 22, 2008
Lucifer wrote:
<quoted text>
How is your invisible friend today?
alive and well, but then He always was/is/will be.
John

Ozark, MO

#8 Sep 22, 2008
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree. It appeared they didn't factor in the agnostics. Instead they chose to go after atheists. Atheists scare the hell out of the religious.
It amazing that you think athiests can be either a threat or a concern to a believer. Just illustrates the weakness of athiestic thought.
Lucifer

Halifax, UK

#9 Sep 22, 2008
John wrote:
<quoted text>
It amazing that you think athiests can be either a threat or a concern to a believer
If Christians did not consider atheists to be a threat or of any concern surely they (Christians) would take the 'live and let live approach'?

Does this happen...of course not, Christians do everything they can to portray non-believers as being bad people or trying to convert them. Just like they (Christians) do with those of other faiths.
John wrote:
<quoted text>
. Just illustrates the weakness of athiestic thought.
Any sort of thought is better than the Christian approach...none at all. They just have blind belief in a 2000 year old, error filled, pagan death cult manual.
Lucifer

Halifax, UK

#10 Sep 22, 2008
John wrote:
<quoted text>
alive and well, but then He always was/is/will be.
I think you need to up your meds ;-}

“everyone invited!”

Since: Aug 08

Shah Alam, Malaysia

#11 Sep 22, 2008
Sir George Bernard Shaw in 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936:

•"If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."

• "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion, which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence, which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity."

• "I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#12 Sep 23, 2008
Cruzader99 wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not afraid of you. I feel sorry for you really.
Yes you are scared! Or you would'nt have responded to my post. Especially since it was not directed toward you personally.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#13 Sep 23, 2008
John wrote:
<quoted text>
It amazing that you think athiests can be either a threat or a concern to a believer. Just illustrates the weakness of athiestic thought.
As above!
Pat

Granby, CT

#14 Sep 24, 2008
peace_train wrote:
Sir George Bernard Shaw in 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936:
•"If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."
• "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion, which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence, which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity."
• "I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."
Islam is just a different flavor of stupid.

“everyone invited!”

Since: Aug 08

Shah Alam, Malaysia

#15 Sep 24, 2008
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is just a different flavor of stupid.
Islam=submission (to God)

Al-Quran 2:13, When they are told,‘Believe (in earnest) just as others have believed’, they answer,“Should we believe like the fools?” Not at all! In fact, it is they who are the fools, but they do not know!

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#16 Sep 24, 2008
peace_train wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam=submission (to God)
Al-Quran 2:13, When they are told,‘Believe (in earnest) just as others have believed’, they answer,“Should we believe like the fools?” Not at all! In fact, it is they who are the fools, but they do not know!
Well, that settles it. Islam is the correct religion because the Quran says so.
The Christian bible says the same thing: The fool hath said in his heart there is no god".
As for my definition of a fool, it's someone that would believe outlandish claims without a shred of evidence.

“everyone invited!”

Since: Aug 08

Shah Alam, Malaysia

#17 Sep 24, 2008
Headhunter 300M wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, that settles it. Islam is the correct religion because the Quran says so.
The Christian bible says the same thing: The fool hath said in his heart there is no god".
As for my definition of a fool, it's someone that would believe outlandish claims without a shred of evidence.
ever wonder what Jesus teaching should be called? he never give any name to it..

[003:003] It is He Who has sent down the Book (the Quran) to you (Muhammad SAW) with truth, confirming what came before it. And he sent down the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).

Islam is not a new religion.. even Jesus brought it.. Islam=submission (to God)..

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#18 Sep 24, 2008
peace_train wrote:
<quoted text>
ever wonder what Jesus teaching should be called? he never give any name to it..
Hmmm...uh, bullsh*t? Same as all religious teachings?

“everyone invited!”

Since: Aug 08

Shah Alam, Malaysia

#19 Sep 24, 2008
Headhunter 300M wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmm...uh, bullsh*t? Same as all religious teachings?
you got it.. if you realize,no name given.. and God told that He sent before Prophet Muhammad many messenger to every nation with teaching of Islam(submission to God)..

[016:036] And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship God (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Taghoot (all false deities, etc. i.e. do not worship Taghoot besides God)." Then of them were some whom God guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth).

that`s why you can see so much similarity between religions..

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#20 Sep 24, 2008
peace_train wrote:
<quoted text>
you got it.. if you realize,no name given.. and God told that He sent before Prophet Muhammad many messenger to every nation with teaching of Islam(submission to God)..
[016:036] And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship God (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Taghoot (all false deities, etc. i.e. do not worship Taghoot besides God)." Then of them were some whom God guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth).
that`s why you can see so much similarity between religions..
The similarities are hardly a revelation to me...the "Big 3", Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have the same roots. They splintered into the different religions, and the different ones split, and split, and split, and split...
And when it is all said and done, they all assume to know the absolute truth, and none have any proof of this claim over the other.
Once you discount the claims ALL make about our orgins (creationism), which have been proven wrong, the rest of the belief system falls like dominoes. Each one.
If you want me to consider your religion as the right one or even remotely true, you'll need to offer more than quotes from your particular holey (pun intended) book.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Baylor University Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News "What About Waco" debuts at Masonic Grand Lodge Jul '17 Rock 2
News Remaining optimistic about Muslims in America: ... Mar '17 Lolly 1
News Petition circulates to ask Baylor University to... (Feb '17) Feb '17 spytheweb 1
News a Why white women shouldna t date black mena fl... (Nov '16) Nov '16 madoff syndrome 3
News More (May '16) May '16 Reagan spirit 1
News Westboro Baptist Church heading to West for fir... (Apr '13) Mar '16 RePUBLIC 40
News Waco-area news briefs: Feb. 28, 2016 (Feb '16) Feb '16 Breaking fart wind 1
More from around the web