'Brain waste' thwarts immigrants' career dreams

Mar 26, 2011 Full story: Kansas City Star 21

After finishing medical school in Bogota, Colombia, Maria Anjelica Montenegro did it all - obstetrics, pediatrics, emergency medicine, even surgery.

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sue

Columbia, CT

#1 Mar 26, 2011
Good story, moral is, stay in your own country.
They Have Too Much Sex

Modesto, CA

#2 Mar 26, 2011
Maybe if they stopped having so much damn sex and popping out so many anchor babies, we wouldn't be stock supporting all of their asses for years!!

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#3 Mar 26, 2011
They Have Too Much Sex wrote:
Maybe if they stopped having so much damn sex and popping out so many anchor babies, we wouldn't be stock supporting all of their asses for years!!
The featured woman came into the United States legally.
Mike

Sparks, NV

#4 Mar 26, 2011
They Have Too Much Sex wrote:
Maybe if they stopped having so much damn sex and popping out so many anchor babies, we wouldn't be stock supporting all of their asses for years!!
I'd rather have more like her and less like you in our country.
Mike

Sparks, NV

#5 Mar 26, 2011
sue wrote:
Good story, moral is, stay in your own country.
I'd also rather have more like her and less like you in our country.
Amber Dru

Columbus, OH

#6 Mar 26, 2011
Most of these immigrants wind up underemployed because of barriers like language, lack of access to job networks, or credentialing requirements that are different from those in other countries. Some are held back even further because they're also in the U.S. illegally.

NSS

Even U.S. doctors may have to get re-certified if they want to practice in another state -so yeah, getting your med degree in another country will require you to pass U.S. exams.

Licensure and certification. To practice medicine as a physician, all States, the District of Columbia, and U.S. territories require licensing. All physicians and surgeons practicing in the United States must pass the United States Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) or, for osteopathic physicians, the Comprehensive Osteopathic Medical Licensing Exam (COMLEX). To be eligible to take the USMLE or COMLEX, physicians must graduate from an accredited medical school. Although physicians licensed in one State usually can get a license to practice in another without further examination, some States limit reciprocity. Graduates of foreign medical schools generally can qualify for licensure after passing an examination and completing a U.S. residency. For specific information on licensing in a given State, contact that State’s medical board.

Since: Jul 08

Danbury, CT

#7 Mar 26, 2011
I'm sure her "brain" could be used in her home country.....move back.

“But it's so Racist”

Since: Mar 10

United States

#8 Mar 26, 2011
They Have Too Much Sex wrote:
Maybe if they stopped having so much damn sex and popping out so many anchor babies, we wouldn't be stock supporting all of their asses for years!!
Don't hate because nobody will do you!

“But it's so Racist”

Since: Mar 10

United States

#9 Mar 26, 2011
CTYankee wrote:
I'm sure her "brain" could be used in her home country.....move back.
Does it annoy you than an immigrant is more smarter then you & your entire family combined?

LMFAO @ U

“But it's so Racist”

Since: Mar 10

United States

#10 Mar 26, 2011
Amber Dru wrote:
Most of these immigrants wind up underemployed because of barriers like language, lack of access to job networks, or credentialing requirements that are different from those in other countries. Some are held back even further because they're also in the U.S. illegally.
NSS
Even U.S. doctors may have to get re-certified if they want to practice in another state -so yeah, getting your med degree in another country will require you to pass U.S. exams.
Licensure and certification. To practice medicine as a physician, all States, the District of Columbia, and U.S. territories require licensing. All physicians and surgeons practicing in the United States must pass the United States Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) or, for osteopathic physicians, the Comprehensive Osteopathic Medical Licensing Exam (COMLEX). To be eligible to take the USMLE or COMLEX, physicians must graduate from an accredited medical school. Although physicians licensed in one State usually can get a license to practice in another without further examination, some States limit reciprocity. Graduates of foreign medical schools generally can qualify for licensure after passing an examination and completing a U.S. residency. For specific information on licensing in a given State, contact that State’s medical board.
So she's way smarter then you, so what!

Since: Jul 08

Danbury, CT

#11 Mar 26, 2011
Rico from East LA wrote:
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Does it annoy you than an immigrant is more smarter then you & your entire family combined?
LMFAO @ U
No, but I have a job, unlike you. Fortunately for you, your mother can turn cheap tricks, and still support your worthless butt. ROTFLMAO.
Memo From Turner

East Setauket, NY

#12 Mar 26, 2011
CTYankee wrote:
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No, but I have a job, unlike you. Fortunately for you, your mother can turn cheap tricks, and still support your worthless butt. ROTFLMAO.
Very impressive rebuttal. This tells us a lot about you.
Speeders Kill Kids

Watseka, IL

#14 Mar 26, 2011
If we're gonna let foreigners into america, these are the kind to let in. People with useful skills - doctors and engineers. But keep out the unskilled illiterates.

“But it's so Racist”

Since: Mar 10

United States

#15 Mar 26, 2011
CTYankee wrote:
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No, but I have a job, unlike you. Fortunately for you, your mother can turn cheap tricks, and still support your worthless butt. ROTFLMAO.
I'm sure that your job flipping burgers is a great career, it probably has a great benefits such as %50 off the "cream filled hotdogs"! LMFAO BTW, tell your mom I said hi. hehheheee
Natalie

AOL

#17 Mar 28, 2011
Maria Montenegro came here legally, she happens to be a very educated woman who unfortunately cannot benefit from her extensive education at this moment in this country. Based on her accomplishments, its very probable that given enough time, she will learn the language and rise above her current situation. The hateful, and sarcastic comments written by people like Sue, and others here, are only a reflection of their anger, jealousy, and ignorance. Someone with even a limited level of class and brain capacity, would appreciate Maria's situation and would not feel the need to write their trashy comments.
Mike

Sparks, NV

#18 Mar 29, 2011
Natalie wrote:
Maria Montenegro came here legally, she happens to be a very educated woman who unfortunately cannot benefit from her extensive education at this moment in this country. Based on her accomplishments, its very probable that given enough time, she will learn the language and rise above her current situation. The hateful, and sarcastic comments written by people like Sue, and others here, are only a reflection of their anger, jealousy, and ignorance. Someone with even a limited level of class and brain capacity, would appreciate Maria's situation and would not feel the need to write their trashy comments.
I agree with you, Natalie. We need more reasonable comments like yours.
Natalie

AOL

#19 Mar 29, 2011
Thank you Mike!!

Its hard to understand the distasteful and hateful comments by some on this thread, toward Maria's situation.
Success28

Emmen, Switzerland

#20 Apr 12, 2011
Well, Natalia I have seen that situation in several places in the world, especially in the US, Canada and Australia. There are two reasons for that. Firstly, the responsibility of a physician, doctor or anything is pretty big, therefore the specialist needs to understand perfectly the language and the medical system of each country.

Secondly, Medicine is managed as a cartel in these countries. It is an industry in which only few can access because the the cake must be shared and its the size is not getting bigger . They make sure that the requirements are almost impossible to access the industry and avoid sharing it with anyone else. Doctors in America have to pay a considerable ammount of money for their degree and actually they protect their investment.

Thirdly, with all due respect the nationality has an effect on this. American people do not have the best perception about South American professionals albeit we are excelent professionals. Reputation and negative perceptions play a role here. The history has shown that COlombian institutions are not reliable and the media spreads out the bad news all over the place. What can we expect?
Natalie

AOL

#21 Apr 12, 2011
Success28, your input about this subject is interesting. I don't know if you are a doctor, I am not, so I am not in a position to argue some of your points. However, I can tell you that, I have met doctors from Colombia, who were educated in Colombia and later came here to the U.S., learned the language and took the necessary courses, passed the required exams and are now successful physicians in reputable hospitals such as UCLA. Regarding the perception about South America, I believe you are correct when speaking about people with little knowledge and education about these countries. I have visited South America, including Colombia, and found that although there is poverty and room for improvement, it is a country with a large educated middle class. What I am finding out about comments such some in these thread, is that many are based on ignorance, arrogance and anger.

Since: Apr 11

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#22 Apr 12, 2011
I am not a doctor Natalie, but like you I have had the opportunity of traveling to several countries in my life. Off course there are exceptions to the rule, that is why I said difficult requirements to be fulfilled, but not impossible. I think that if we dug deeper we might see a tendency among those physicians and doctors. They had the resources and the luck to reach that place.
Nowadays, I am finishing my PHD in Marketing in Switzerland and even with my preparation is difficult to find a job here. As you know this country has three official languages and unfortunately I only know Italian and English. They usually require German/french in order to hire you for a job here.
Ok but that is not the point here, What I want to highlight is the fact that the Swiss immigration department has issued a new law for those who have made two or more years of postgraduate studies here and they give you the opportunity to stay for six more months to find a job. Also they award the professional with the same status as a swiss citizen, which means that the professional does not need the company sponsorship to get the labor visa.
Bravo for the Swiss Government.

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