What Can Palestinians Do When Settlers Attack?

Dec 19, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Daily Kos

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harvey

Columbus, OH

#1 Dec 20, 2011
Wait until you see the whites of their Zionist eyes, then fire the rockets. The damn things are no good at a distance!

heh
Ayreshire

Alamogordo, NM

#2 Dec 20, 2011
harvey wrote:
Wait until you see the whites of their Zionist eyes, then fire the rockets. The damn things are no good at a distance!
heh
The Palestinians are so outraged by Newt's remarks, they have doubled their defense spending. Now, the West Bank has giant rock piles as far as the eye can see.
Ayreshire

Alamogordo, NM

#3 Dec 20, 2011
harvey wrote:
Wait until you see the whites of their Zionist eyes, then fire the rockets. The damn things are no good at a distance!
heh
Do us a favor! Take your punyass over there and help them die for the cause!
harvey

Columbus, OH

#5 Dec 21, 2011
Arseforhire wrote:
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Do us a favor! Take your punyass over there and help them die for the cause!
Die for Israel already, Zionist pig. You're not an American anyway.
Old Jew

San Francisco, CA

#6 Dec 21, 2011
What do you mean settlers, God promised all the land of the ME to the Jews. We do not look at it that way, it is rightfully ours.
harvey

Columbus, OH

#7 Dec 21, 2011
Old Jew wrote:
What do you mean settlers, God promised all the land of the ME to the Jews. We do not look at it that way, it is rightfully ours.
Jewish delusions do not constitute international decisions or deeds to land. Zionists seized the land and kicked out the rightful Palestinian Arab owners.
Old Jew

San Francisco, CA

#8 Dec 21, 2011
Palestinians can not do anything because it is not their land.
harvey

Columbus, OH

#9 Dec 22, 2011
Old Jew wrote:
Palestinians can not do anything because it is not their land.
It was stolen from them by Zionist Jews, that's why.
Ayreshire

Alamogordo, NM

#10 Dec 22, 2011
harvey-arse-fer-Hire wrote:
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Die for Israel already, Zionist pig. You're not an American anyway.
Hey NUTCASE, why the hell don't you go back to looking at Hamas Propaganda Material they sent you for your Jewish hate and remain a susceptible victim to the psy ops campaign waged by the you and the Hamas Sock Puppets states media, you Anti-Zionist, Anti-Jewish Anti-American azzwipe.. It appears if you are an armchair pontificator that has the intelligence of the sh!t at the bottom of a cesspool..Stop the filthy disgusting lies and propaganda! Keep flying that Hezbollah flag over that trailer trash you like to call home in Glasgow. Then, mind your own Hamas business and keep your big gum flappin' mouth shut if you can't post something besides your radical nut case anti-Semite hate propaganda and LIES and take the Aliroger1 (your twin nut lover clone) with you!
AZIZ

New York, NY

#11 Dec 22, 2011
It's like David against Goliath
Ayreshire

Alamogordo, NM

#12 Dec 22, 2011
harvey wrote:
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Jewish delusions do not constitute international decisions or deeds to land. Zionists seized the land and kicked out the rightful Palestinian Arab owners.
Hamas sock puppet delusions! They kicked out nobody clown!!! There is a propaganda war going on now with regard to the term “Palestine.” At one time it might have been argued that Palestine was an innocuous designation of the Middle Eastern area that is generally thought of as the Holy Land. During the last few decades, however, the term Palestine has been adopted by Arabs living in Israel in the area west of the Jordan River. It is specifically employed to avoid the use of the name Israel, and must be considered an anti-Israel term. In all Arab maps published in Jordan, Egypt, etc., the area west of the Jordan River is called Palestine, without any reference to Israel. Palestine is the term now used by those who want to deny the legitimate existence of Israel as a genuine nation among the family of nations. The term Palestine is rarely used in the Old Testament, and when it is, it refers specifically to the southwestern coastal area of Israel occupied by the Philistines. It is a translation of the Hebrew word “Pelesheth.” The term is never used to refer to the whole land occupied by Israel. Before Israel occupied the land, it would be generally accurate to say that the southwestern coastal area was called Philistia (the Way of the Philistines, or Palestine), while the central highlands were called Canaan. Both the Canaanites and the Philistines had disappeared as distinct peoples at least by the time of the Babylonian Captivity of Judea (586 B.C.), and they no longer exist.
Where did the term Palestine originate from? How did the world and the church get into the habit of calling the land of Israel “Palestine”? One of the guides we use in our tours to Israel is Zvi Rivai, an Israeli Messianic believer, who has done considerable research on this subject. Zvi informs us that before 135 A.D., the Romans used the terms Judea and Galilee to refer to the Land of Israel. When Titus destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D., the Roman government struck a coin with the phrase “Judea Capta,” meaning Judea has been captured. The term Palestine was never used in the early Roman designations.
It was not until the Romans crushed the second Jewish revolt against Rome in 135 A.D. under Bar Kochba that Emperor Hadrian applied the term Palestine to the Land of Israel. Hadrian, like many dictators since his time, realized the propaganda power of terms and symbols. He replaced the shrines of the Jewish Temple and the Sepulchre of Christ in Jerusalem with temples to pagan deities. He changed the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitalina, and changed the name of Israel and Judea to Palestine. Hadrian’s selection of Palestine was purposeful, not accidental. He took the name of the ancient enemies of Israel, the Philistines, Latinized it to Palestine, and applied it to the Land of Israel. He hoped to erase the name Israel from all memory. Thus, the term Palestine as applied to the Land of Israel was invented by the inveterate enemy of the Bible and the Jewish people, Emperor Hadrian.
It is interesting to note that the original Philistines were not Middle Eastern at all. They were European peoples from the Adriatic sea next to Greece. It may have pleased Hadrian to utilize this Hellenistic term for the Jewish land. In any case, the original “Palestinians” had nothing to do, whatsoever, with any Arabs.
Ayreshire

Alamogordo, NM

#13 Dec 22, 2011
Old Jew wrote:
Palestinians can not do anything because it is not their land.
Right on! Harveyis a Hamas sock puppet! The next time the Harvey clown tells anyone that it is Palestinian land stolen by Israel ask the moron to answer thsese famous quotes from his heroes!

"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all out war, a war which will last for generations.

~Yasser Arafat~
~~~~~~~~~~

"The Palestinian people have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them that identity through conflict with Israel."

~ Yasser Arafat ~
~~~~~~~~~~

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel. For our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of Palestinian people, since Arab national interest demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism".

~ Zahir Muhse'in ~
rider

Gwinn, MI

#15 Dec 22, 2011
rider

Gwinn, MI

#16 Dec 22, 2011
http://www.isawthelightministries.com/index.h... 1 Corinthians 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

Many people see this verse and leave it at that. No exceptions. They judge all men with long hair. Period. However, let's take a look at some other Bible scriptures.

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Numbers 6
1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the LORD:
3He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.
4All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk.
5All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no razor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in the which he separateth himself unto the LORD, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow.

So we see in Numbers 6 that there is a special holy vow that a man or woman can make with GOD that they would not cut their hair, but let it grow long. We see this in Samson in Judges 13 and Samuel in 1 Sam.1 but they were Nazarites from birth. But we see in Numbers that it does not have to be from birth, the person can make this vow any time in their life. You may say this is in the Old Testament. But notice the Apostle Paul took this vow!

Passage Acts 18:18 And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow.

Numbers 6:13 And this is the law of the Nazarite, when the days of his separation are fulfilled: he shall be brought unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:
18 And the Nazarite shall shave the head of his separation at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and shall take the hair of the head of his separation, and put it in the fire which is under the sacrifice of the peace offerings.

Acts 21:17 And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly.
18And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.
19And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.
20And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:
rider

Gwinn, MI

#17 Dec 22, 2011
Ayreshire wrote:
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Right on! Harveyis a Hamas sock puppet! The next time the Harvey clown tells anyone that it is Palestinian land stolen by Israel ask the moron to answer thsese famous quotes from his heroes!
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all out war, a war which will last for generations.
~Yasser Arafat~
~~~~~~~~~~
"The Palestinian people have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them that identity through conflict with Israel."
~ Yasser Arafat ~
~~~~~~~~~~
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel. For our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of Palestinian people, since Arab national interest demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism".
~ Zahir Muhse'in ~
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam__quran_an...
rider

Gwinn, MI

#18 Dec 22, 2011
Ayreshire wrote:
<quoted text>
Right on! Harveyis a Hamas sock puppet! The next time the Harvey clown tells anyone that it is Palestinian land stolen by Israel ask the moron to answer thsese famous quotes from his heroes!
"Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all out war, a war which will last for generations.
~Yasser Arafat~
~~~~~~~~~~
"The Palestinian people have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them that identity through conflict with Israel."
~ Yasser Arafat ~
~~~~~~~~~~
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel. For our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of Palestinian people, since Arab national interest demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism".
~ Zahir Muhse'in ~
http://www.fallofislam.com/Bible_Prophecy.htm...
Ayreshire

Alamogordo, NM

#19 Dec 22, 2011
rider wrote:
http://www.isawthelightministr ies.com/index.html 1 Corinthians 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
• Deut 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
(KJV)
US foreign policy is like a shifting wind and constantly changing, one day supporting the Muslims and the next the Israelis. For example, during the Holocaust our government refused to believe there was a mass slaughter of Jews and then refused to allow them to emigrate and escape the death camps.

I support Israel's right to exist based upon my faith and the blessing found in Gen. 12:3, And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. The term Palestine is a misnomer since it had been known as the Kingdom of Israel and/or Judea until the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. It was then renamed Palestine by them, the word Palestine is a derivative of the word Philistine who occupied the southern coast of Canaan. The Philistines constituted a threat to southern Israel and oppressed the Israelites notably during the days of judges Samson and Samuel.

The Jewish people have suffered constant persecution for thousands of years by both Christians and Muslims the most infamous in recent history, the Holocaust. What few people know today is that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin Al-Husseini, was a complicit participant with Adolph Hitler is the extermination of the Jews, both European and those in what was then called Palestine.

Arabs and Palestinian Christians living in Israel at the time of the first emigration of Jews to their homeland were offered the opportunity to stay and live in peace with the Jews. Unfortunately, this was discouraged by neighboring Arab countries and the conflict continues to this day. The beginning of the modern Jewish return to Eretz Yisrael - the Land of Israel -, which laid the foundations for the establishment of the State of Israel, were due to a combination of three causes:

* the age-old devotion of the Jews to their historic homeland,
* the wave of pogroms in Russia and
* the efforts of an active minority convinced that the Return to the homeland was the only lasting and fundamental solution to the Jewish problem.

The Abrahamic Covenant is unconditional and eternal. In the Genesis 17 passage, God changed Abram's name to Abraham and Sarai's name to Sarah. The sign of the covenant, circumcision, was established. God gave this sign as a reminder of his promise. God explicitly stated that the land he promised Abraham and his descendants was an everlasting possession. God also explicitly stated that the covenant went through Isaac (v. 21) not Ishmael.(Genesis 17:2-9 and Deuteronomy 1:7-8). While several of the Arab peoples descend from Abraham through Ishmael, they are not in the line of promise which is the line of Isaac and Jacob. Therefore, they have no Scriptural claim to the land promised to Abraham and his seed.
Ayreshire

Alamogordo, NM

#20 Dec 22, 2011
The boundaries are given for the title deed (v. 18, cf. Exodus 23:31 "I will establish your borders from the Red Sea to the Sea of the Philistines, and from the desert to the River. I will hand over to you the people who live in the land and you will drive them out before you.)" At the present time the Arabs have deep bitterness and conflict over Israel's place in the Middle East and her present borders. Most Arabs refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist in the Middle East and many will not rest until the nation is destroyed. God, however, has declared that this will never happen. Indeed, God has promised that in a future day he will fulfill his covenant to Abraham and establish Israel's borders from Egypt to the Euphrates River. The new boundaries will be vastly more extensive than Israel's current borders. They will include the lands from Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, western Iraq, and northern Saudi Arabia. These countries would do well to be good neighbors to Israel in anticipation of the day when God will fulfill his covenants and Jesus of Nazareth, the son of David, will reign as King from Jerusalem.

Most importantly, we must remember that our Lord Jesus is/was first and foremost a Jew.
• Centuries ago, God told the Israelites:“If you will strictly obey my voice and will indeed keep my covenant, then you will certainly become my special property out of all other peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me. And you yourselves will become to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.”(Exodus 19:5, 6) All nations belonged to God, but the Israelites could become his special property, eventually serving as priests in behalf of all mankind.
But was this special relationship with God unconditional? No! God had said:“If you will strictly obey my voice ... then you will certainly become my special property.” So their continuing in a chosen relationship with God was conditional, dependent upon their continued faithfulness to him.
Despite having received special favor as God’s chosen people, the majority of the Israelites abandoned the true worship of Jehovah. What was Jehovah’s reaction?“I shall no more show mercy again to the house of Israel, because I shall positively take them away.... You men are not my people and I myself shall prove to be not yours.”(Hosea 1:6, 9)
Would Jehovah continue to view the Jews as his chosen people? Recognizing that many had once again apostatized from the unadulterated worship of Jehovah, Jesus said:“The kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits.”(Matthew 21:43) Failing to heed that warning, the majority continued in their apostate course and rejected Jesus as Jehovah’s anointed one. Hence, it was not long afterward that God allowed the rebuilt temple to be destroyed, in 70 C.E.(Matthew 23:37, 38)
As Paul, a Jewish apostle of Christ, explained:“God did not reject his people, whom he first recognized.... At the present season also a remnant has turned up according to a choosing due to undeserved kindness.”(Romans 11:2, 5)
Ayreshire

Alamogordo, NM

#21 Dec 22, 2011
This faithful Jewish remnant was soon joined by non-Jews who also desired to serve God. Even though their ancestors had not been in a special relationship with him, Jehovah was now willing to accept these faithful non-Jews as his people. Noting this, Paul wrote:“If, now, God ... called [us] not only from among Jews but also from among [non-Jewish] nations, what of it? It is as he says also in Hosea:‘Those not my people I will call “my people.”’”—Romans 9:22-25.
Thus, both Jews and non-Jews could be God’s chosen people, with the prospect of serving as priests in behalf of the rest of mankind. Speaking to faithful worshipers of various national backgrounds, the Christian apostle Peter, a Jew from birth, wrote:“You are ‘a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession’... For you were once not a people, but are now God’s people.”(1 Peter 2:9, 10) This was the “nation,” people with godly qualities, that Jesus said would produce the ‘fruits of God’s kingdom’ and that would therefore enjoy a special relationship with Jehovah.—Matthew 21:43.
What borders are you talking about? If it's the Israeli borders they had juristiction of the Gaza and still have! Under the security concept applied to Gaza and Jericho Agreement 1994, these areas are regarded as within an Israeli security 'envelope'. This envelope is meant to provide for security from external threats along the boundaries. and the Palestinian commitment to combat terror and prevent violence (which they have not done), the famous “land for peace” bargain.

In the following years, Israel generally lived up to the agreement and continued to participate in the Oslo Peace Process by signing additional pacts with the Palestinians. The Israelis thought that peace was a genuine possibility and the political climate in Israel was supportive of making the necessary concessions to get there.

Israeli forces withdrew from Jericho and most of the Gaza Strip in May 1994. After additional agreements, Israeli withdrawals resulted in more than 95 percent of Palestinians in Judea, Samaria and Gaza being under Palestinian administration by 1997.
Ayreshire

Alamogordo, NM

#22 Dec 22, 2011
Even though they participated in the negotiations, reached verbal agreement and signed the documents giving written agreement, the Palestinians did not comply with their obligations under the agreements. There was systematic Palestinian non-compliance with their main obligations under the accords. Various Palestinian commitments contained in the May 1994 Gaza-Jericho Agreement were recycled in the September 1995 Oslo 2 Accord and reaffirmed in the January 1997 Hebron Accord, yet went unfulfilled. The primary reason for the multiple agreements over the course of years was that the timetables were never met leading to the requirement to renegotiate. The timetables were not met because Palistinian failure to meet Israels security requirements, even in basic steps negotiated in the accords, led to Israel’s refusal to “redeploy” forces, especially when initial Israeli withdrawals did not lead to Palestinian compliance.“Land for Peace” was in reality,“Land for Nothing” as usual. Palestinian Hamas continued it's mission to destroy Israel by any means available and this included Rocket attacks and suicide bombers. Nothing has changed as far as Palestinians are concerned and especially Hamas.
Among the many items that were not complied with, the PLO once again agreed to change the provisions of the Palestinian National Covenant that deny Israel’s right to exist and call for Israel’s destruction. Once again there was no action taken and, in fact, the PLO Charter was never revised as agreed.

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