China and Tibet

Lodi Gyari, the Dalai Lama's representative in Washington, has a good op-ed in the South China Morning Post .

[Trevor Swistchew]

0China is too heavy in \tibet they have alienated themselves by the gun whatever you say or not China was invader not liberator period.

[Trevor Swistchew]

Great Fortune to HH Dalai Lama he is the power that keeps Tibet peaceful

[Pro Tibet n Shugdens]

RT TV: Peter Lavelle's Crosstalk talked about Dalai Lama

“CrossTalk on Dalai Lama: CIA monk exposed”

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[RayH]

Isn't the Dollar Lama dead already?

[Rong]

The Tibetans that left Tibet in the 50s are already dead and gone. The younger generations are born on foreign land and mostly spoke foreign language.
It is naive to think that they influence China more than any average Joe in India.
The real issue is CIA vs China. What CIA wants to do with these cannon fodder?

[smallville]

Rong wrote:

The Tibetans that left Tibet in the 50s are already dead and gone. The younger generations are born on foreign land and mostly spoke foreign language.
It is naive to think that they influence China more than any average Joe in India.
The real issue is CIA vs China. What CIA wants to do with these cannon fodder?

They will have their nation in India someday. They already start kicking out "Indians" in their area. Just like Kashmir muslim kicked out all Hindus. This is only the beginning of India headache.

[Pro Tibet n Shugdens]

That is why Karmapa was arrested under the excuse of his involvement in espionage for Beijing. That is an excuse.

The Indians feel threatened by the increasing number of Tibetan exiles who have many children in the last 50 years but have no other countries to go. Conflict of interests arises when Tibetans tries to buy land to built temples.

Secondly, there is infighting within the exile groups. Dalai Lama supporters are very violent against the Shugden followers. They worry that either the Shugdens or Karmapa followers will dominate over the whole Tibetan exile communities.

The infighting cause trouble and bad image in Dharamsala and that also bothers the Indians.

Indians begin to hate the Tibetans there.

[Pro Tibet n Shugdens]

Please help the Shugdens!!!

All of them are in very disadvantageous situations, and are alienated by Dalai Lama supporters. The Shugdens are also threatened by the violence from DL supporters.

Please help!!!!!!!!!!

[Real Chinese]

One day all Tibetans shall be free. In fact tomorrow at Berkeley if the weather permits I will be at a rally calling for the Freedom of Tibet.

[Pro Tibet n Shugdens]

Aussie TV: Interview with a Shugden Nun

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Rong]

Real Chinese wrote:

One day all Tibetans shall be free. In fact tomorrow at Berkeley if the weather permits I will be at a rally calling for the Freedom of Tibet.

Westerners living good lives fantasizing about saving the Tibetans.
Of course when the weather is fine it is good to play hero for half a day. You know why they don't try to save the Native Americans?
They have to pay more taxes to save Native Americans. It's too troublesome. Saving Tibetans when the weather is fine cost nothing and is a cheap way of getting a cool image.

[Pro Tibet n Shugdens]

Rong wrote:

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Westerners living good lives fantasizing about saving the Tibetans.
Of course when the weather is fine it is good to play hero for half a day. You know why they don't try to save the Native Americans?
They have to pay more taxes to save Native Americans. It's too troublesome. Saving Tibetans when the weather is fine cost nothing and is a cheap way of getting a cool image.

First, why no one tries to save the Shugdens in Dharamsala, India. They are deprived of religious freedom and subject to violence from the extreme supporters of Dalai Lama and the Tibet Youth Congress.

Second, what are the movie stars in Hollywood and some people in west doing? Do they understand the Tibetan exile communities represent only less than 100,000 all living in exile for 50 years or were born in exile. Some don't speak the Tibetan language. Who are they? They are the former aristocrats of Old Tibet who had treated 90+% people in Tibet very inhumanely (note slavery and serfdom). The cruelty of these former overlords of slaves and serf had been well documented and the old freed slaves living today can still tell you the facts about their life before emancipation.

People of west and Hollywood are supporting this small minority living overseas to take away the better life after emancipation (in 1959) of the majority and restored the old theocracy regime. That is called democracy and human rights movement?

Even this small minority in exile are divided and not everyone agree with Dalai Lama over religious and political matters.

>>> RT TV: Peter Lavelle's Crosstalk talked about Dalai Lama

“CrossTalk on Dalai Lama: CIA monk exposed”

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

>>> Aussie TV: Interview with a Shugden Nun
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

>>> Swiss Public TV investigation report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

*** Please Understand Tibet exile communities and Tibet, China, and Help the Shugdens Against Persecution!!!!!!!!!!

[Pro Tibet n Shugdens]

Protest against religious persecution

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

(in USA) http://www.youtube.com/watch...

(in Germany) http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Protest on Dalai Lama for banning Dorje Shugden – Nottingham
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Anti Dalai Lama Demo Nürnberg Germany 18.05.08
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Real Chinese]

Rong, whether you believe it or not I am a true blooded Chinese. The Chinese have no right to Tibet, it is not theirs.

[Dalai Lama]

Yes, Chinese dogs, GET OUT OF TIBET !

[Andrez Lopez]

Real Chinese wrote:

Rong, whether you believe it or not I am a true blooded Chinese. The Chinese have no right to Tibet, it is not theirs.

Yes. I believe you. You are a true blooded Chinese and a screwed -up Chinese who knows a lot about Tibet. Since you are so knowledgeable about Tibet can you please explain to all posters here the following paragraph which appears in their web

www.compassionatemandala.org/exiledmonks

"Buddhism flourished in Tibet in the seventh century. Receiving royal patronage, it spread throughout Tibet. With the assumption of power by the Dalai Lamas from 1642 onwards, the era of 'harmonious blend of religion and politics' was established in Tibet. Since then, for three-and-half centuries ten successive Dalai Lamas have been the spiritual and temporal rulers of Tibet."

[Real Chinese]

The present DL does not live in Tibet,he is in exile.
What are you talking about. The DL must be return to Tibet before the world can accept China and China must leave Tibet. There is no way Tibet is a part of China, the languages are so different.

[SMH]

In your little world you tend to magnify things but in the real world, not so. Dollar Lama is on the CIA payroll. That's why there is so much turmoil in the world today like Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, Iraq, Bahrain, etc. Because of CIA.

[old china]

Real Chinese wrote:

The present DL does not live in Tibet,he is in exile.
What are you talking about. The DL must be return to Tibet before the world can accept China and China must leave Tibet. There is no way Tibet is a part of China, the languages are so different.

How do you justify English being one of the languages for the USA? It implies that the English speaking population belong in a different country.

[deadeagle]

Real chinese talk cock, native Hawaiian or Alaskan or Guam or Samoan or Puerto Rico languages, or red Indian languages also so different from English? so what say you?