Pops

Newport, KY

#19981 Aug 16, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
From last July:
"Cleveland just completed its fifth straight quarter with temperatures above the 50-year average, including the warmest January-March and April-June periods in the last half-century."
http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ss...
I could be wrong & have been B4 & will be again, but I thought that XXX was being a little bit facetious in his reply because it would be unlikely if not impossible to separate a specific city, county or even state from global warming conversations.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19982 Aug 16, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I could be wrong & have been B4 & will be again, but I thought that XXX was being a little bit facetious in his reply because it would be unlikely if not impossible to separate a specific city, county or even state from global warming conversations.
Global Warming is like religion or those who believe in ghosts and UFO's. If you believe in something strong enough, you'll find evidence to support your stance.

We don't control the climate or the temperature of the earth. We don't possess that ability. The earth will get warmer, and then it will get cooler. it's really beyond our control.

The most influential component of our temperatures is the sun. It's a star millions of miles away and we don't understand all of it's cycles. What we do know is that the Global Warming nuts don't even consider the effects of the sun on our planet.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19983 Aug 16, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
The geologists and engineers surveyed(the Association of Professional Engineers, Geologists and Geophysicists of Alberta) have a vested interest in rejecting global warming --- they include many that derive their income from energy companies.
When you ask scientists in general, 97% believe that man-made climate change is real.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/scien...
Your post indicates that 97 out of 100 scientists agree that man is causing Global Warming.

The study I introduced considered well over 1,000 geologists.

You show me one scientist funded by energy companies, and I'll show you 100 funded by our US Government and perhaps the UN.

Global Warming is not now, nor ever was a consensus. There are pro and con's in every Climate Change debate.

Until there is a consensus, then we can only conclude that man made Global Warming or Climate Change is nothing but a theory with absolutely no empirical evidence.

And until we citizens are allowed to see where our representatives have their money invested in, there is always suspicion of their support for Global Warming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientis...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19984 Aug 16, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
From last July:
"Cleveland just completed its fifth straight quarter with temperatures above the 50-year average, including the warmest January-March and April-June periods in the last half-century."
http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ss...
Really? I didn't see that in your link. What I did see is 15 month high temperatures which is non sequitur.

The link I posted was from a reliable news source that states our last 18 years have been below normal summer temperatures. This year may rise above even considering the cold days that we've had.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19985 Aug 16, 2013
It all has to do with sun spots, solar flares and sometimes earths volcanic activity....

Anything remotely sounding as if a weather change is because of something humans do automatically equates to screaming I'M A COMPLETE DUMBASS F-TARD

Its just that effing simple!
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19986 Aug 16, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Really? I didn't see that in your link.
It was the first sentence.

Pops thought you were joking.

Now he knows you are serious.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19987 Aug 16, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Your post indicates that 97 out of 100 scientists agree that man is causing Global Warming.
The study I introduced considered well over 1,000 geologists.
You show me one scientist funded by energy companies, and I'll show you 100 funded by our US Government and perhaps the UN.
Global Warming is not now, nor ever was a consensus. There are pro and con's in every Climate Change debate.
Instead of surveying climate scientists, they surveyed geologists. Why do you think they would do that?

In my book, 97% of scientists IS a consensus. Yes, there are still 3% that disagree, but I can live with that.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19988 Aug 16, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
It all has to do with sun spots, solar flares and sometimes earths volcanic activity....
Anything remotely sounding as if a weather change is because of something humans do automatically equates to screaming I'M A COMPLETE DUMBASS F-TARD
Its just that effing simple!
Why should I listen to you? You haven't demonstrated any special insights in the past, and I doubt you've had much formal training in the sciences. On the other hand...

"Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities,1and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position."

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19989 Aug 16, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should I listen to you? You haven't demonstrated any special insights in the past, and I doubt you've had much formal training in the sciences. On the other hand...
"Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities,1and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position."
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus
Take your scietific, poindexter, consensus and shove it up yer-ass! Your only interest is to control others and confiscate wealth.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#19990 Aug 17, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
Take your scietific, poindexter, consensus and shove it up yer-ass! Your only interest is to control others and confiscate wealth.
Don't like and can't handle facts huh? Maybe you need to buy a lifetime supply of applesauce and adult diapers so you and the rest of the teabaggers can enjoy your has been status out to pasture.
Now back to you trying to change the channels on your microwave oven and wondering why you can't hear anyone on the other end when you answer your TV remote.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19991 Aug 17, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Instead of surveying climate scientists, they surveyed geologists. Why do you think they would do that?
In my book, 97% of scientists IS a consensus. Yes, there are still 3% that disagree, but I can live with that.
Can you also live with the fact that the governments where these scientists come from have to approve of their work before it gets published by the IPCC?

Let's see now....... where do scientists get their money for the research they do? Hmmm.

Next question: if government is allowed to control our energy, does that give more power to the people or more power to the government? To put it another way, do we have more freedom with our healthcare today or did we have more freedom with our healthcare five years ago?

If you guessed less freedom, then you win a gold star, because as of the first of next year, you will be FORCED by the federal government to have healthcare. The federal government also FORCED insurance companies to provide birth control to women. The federal government FORCED insurance companies to spend at least 80% of their premium collections on actual payments instead of investments that offset those huge bills which increased our healthcare premiums dramatically.

But back to this IPCC thing:

Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation
Our hopelessly compromised scientific establishment cannot be allowed to get away with the Climategate whitewash, says Christopher Booker.

6:10PM GMT 28 Nov 2009

A week after my colleague James Delingpole , on his Telegraph blog, coined the term "Climategate" to describe the scandal revealed by the leaked emails from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit, Google was showing that the word now appears across the internet more than nine million times. But in all these acres of electronic coverage, one hugely relevant point about these thousands of documents has largely been missed.

The reason why even the Guardian's George Monbiot has expressed total shock and dismay at the picture revealed by the documents is that their authors are not just any old bunch of academics. Their importance cannot be overestimated, What we are looking at here is the small group of scientists who have for years been more influential in driving the worldwide alarm over global warming than any others, not least through the role they play at the heart of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

Professor Philip Jones, the CRU's director, is in charge of the two key sets of data used by the IPCC to draw up its reports. Through its link to the Hadley Centre, part of the UK Met Office, which selects most of the IPCC's key scientific contributors, his global temperature record is the most important of the four sets of temperature data on which the IPCC and governments rely not least for their predictions that the world will warm to catastrophic levels unless trillions of dollars are spent to avert it.

Dr Jones is also a key part of the closely knit group of American and British scientists responsible for promoting that picture of world temperatures conveyed by Michael Mann's "hockey stick" graph which 10 years ago turned climate history on its head by showing that, after 1,000 years of decline, global temperatures have recently shot up to their highest level in recorded history.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19992 Aug 17, 2013
TruckDrivingWeatherExpert wrote:
Also, why are there so many pedophiles in your political party? Any particular reason why there are several times as many kiddie gropers in the GOP than you'll ever find with the Democrats? Wonder why that is? Perhaps that explains why you guys are always thinking the Feds are coming after you. It also explains why you guys want so many guns. Romney should have promised you guys a big doomsday Bible bunker full of toddlers. Anyway, back to you guys trying to tell America how to run the country. As if anyone cares.
And where is your data showing what political affiliation kiddy gropers belong to?

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19993 Aug 17, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Don't like and can't handle facts huh? Maybe you need to buy a lifetime supply of applesauce and adult diapers so you and the rest of the teabaggers can enjoy your has been status out to pasture.
Now back to you trying to change the channels on your microwave oven and wondering why you can't hear anyone on the other end when you answer your TV remote.
The facts are sun spots, solar flares and volcanos are the only thing to make temperature averages fluctuate. Dumbass!
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#19994 Aug 17, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
The facts are sun spots, solar flares and volcanos are the only thing to make temperature averages fluctuate. Dumbass!
Even clouds look down at you and say..."Hey look...that one is shaped like an idiot."

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19995 Aug 17, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Even clouds look down at you and say..."Hey look...that one is shaped like an idiot."
translation: I want control and I want your money and I want it now!
UdintEarnThat

Canton, OH

#19996 Aug 17, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text> translation: I want control and I want your money and I want it now!
Leave your opinions about your parent's trust fund out of this.
UdintEarnThat

Canton, OH

#19997 Aug 17, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
Take your scietific, poindexter, consensus and shove it up yer-ass! Your only interest is to control others and confiscate wealth.
Take that big fat Koch out your mouth. Your only interests is to be a fetch boy for corporations and the energy industry. You know, like the oil billionaire funded Tea Party. Oh, and I know you guys are still on the fence about it, but the earth is round. Not flat.
UdintEarnThat

Acworth, GA

#19998 Aug 17, 2013
All them there penis enlargement pills I've taken all these years really paid off cause I'm a REALLY HUGE-DICK!
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19999 Aug 17, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>

The link I posted was from a reliable news source that states our last 18 years have been below normal summer temperatures. This year may rise above even considering the cold days that we've had.
You didn't post a link to explain your "18 years have been below normal summer temperatures" claim. I'd like to see it.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20000 Aug 17, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
Take your scietific, poindexter, consensus and shove it up yer-ass!
Wow, "poindexter", I haven't heard that one in a long time. That's what the dumb kids used to call the smart kids. I guess some things never change...

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