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Those aren't skilled jobs. Those are trades. Things you can Google and easily do yourself. Things that benefited from unions making wages fair because most people can do those jobs. Any person who can Google can find out how to change an O-ring, but could the same person understand data structures? LOL
Trades are what convicts use to get into the job market. Same with illegals. It doesn't take much more than a heartbeat and a brain to learn a trade. But try to teach the same people discrete math or other concepts it takes to be an engineer or developer. You will have most dropping out. Best believe illegals and immigrants are getting CDLs before trying to do skilled labor.
Why do you think all these Mexicans without any education can take the trade jobs? They are extremely easy to learn and even people with below-average intelligence can do them. But they couldn't do the job of an architect.
As for your last point, take a look at Portugal's drug policy. It would definitely cut down on costs in the U.S. And what's wrong with cutting military spending? Your tax dollars pay for all the waste with the soldiers. The equipment. The pensions.
It's our military who makes us the big kid on the block. I have no problem with pensions and benefits our solders get. They deserve anything we can give them. But instead, we give everything to lowlifes who don't want to work or even try.

I would love to see you on the line trying to lay block. LOL! You couldn't last a half of a day. No, you can't learn that on the internet either. I talk to the master mechanic at the place we get our trucks serviced at. He told me that they can get certified mechanics to work, but they aren't worth a crap. He said they are trying to train mechanics for the next generation because their current mechanics will be retiring in the next 15 years. He fears for the future of his company because younger people today don't have what it takes. He's correct too. We now lease our tractors from Penski, and those clowns barely have enough skill to change the oil on trucks. Good truck mechanics are extremely hard to come by.

My nephew recently graduated with a Masters last year. He's a smart kid, but couldn't fix a hole in the wall. He wouldn't know where to start or what to do, and he admits it. Internet and all, skill is required to do many of these jobs. Trust me, I've hired many of them. Some are great at what they do and others I wouldn't give the time of day.

Your condescending post here reminds me of when I was younger and out of a job. My father was building a brick porch for one of our neighbors. So for extra money, I helped. He also hired a friend of mine because we had to dig a footer for the concrete of the porch. My friend was short, but muscle bound. In fact, he was used for an ad in a fitness magazine.

My father took of for about three hours and my friend and I dug our azzes off. He came back and asked "WTF were you two doing all that time?" At a steady pace, he fixed the mess we made, and within an hour, had a pile of dirt larger than my friend and I created in three hours.

Muy father turned towards us and said "It takes skill and education even to dig a ditch."
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Illegal Immigrants:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; elect and reelect Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That supports Illegal Immigrants that defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold compliant with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and Realities demands Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church and Illegal Immigrants evade.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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Jun 13, 2013
 
Appropriate:

It’s appropriate to hold every resident of the USA accountable to speak English and comply with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands in 2013.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
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State Department Lacks Responsibility:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; supports Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members; Neglecting to hold State Department accountable to investigate allegations of sexual crimes and other misconduct of Diplomats.
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Jun 13, 2013
 
Nonunion Asian Population:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; elects and reelects Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That supports nonunion Asian population defying USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund nonunion Asian population, Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

This created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

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Union labor needs to live within their means Loren.
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What Romney was talking about was getting foreigners to take those jobs requiring higher education because our so-called higher education doesn't spit out graduates that can do the jobs American companies need.
I'm no Romney fan by a long shot. But I do understand what he was after because this is something the Republicans have harped about for years. Apparently, our college graduates are inept for such employment.
There are plenty of well trained Americans. We have some of the best universities on the planet, and many travel to this country to take advantage of them. We are in a period of high unemployment, and there are many trained professionals who can't find work.

But you will be able to buy the same skills for less, if you are able to alter the laws regarding visas. It's a question of what's best for our country and citizens versus what's good for a particular company.

If you doubt that this goes on, and that Republicans are doing it, you might want to watch this. It shows John Boehner talking about passing out checks from tobacco companies on the House floor, just before an important vote: http://www.youtube.com/watch... (He now regrets doing that...)
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Mmmmmmm tobacco, oil and war go hand and hand with Jesus. Land of the free? Tell it to the monopoly on god and country the religious right believe they are entitled to. Want to know what went wrong with America? Take a look at who has been driving this rig since the 50s. Here's a hint. It's not the poor and powerless...although you wouldn't know it to hear the babbling propaganda of those who wish they could rewrite history.

Now back to the brave and patriotic stand you guys take on things like higher efficiency light bulbs...

What else did the energy lobby for Jesus tell you to believe?

Perhaps if you weren't trying to stir up scandal before the man even took office, American's would give a rat's @ss when you cry wolf.
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TruckDrivingGenius wrote:
Mmmmmmm tobacco, oil and war go hand and hand with Jesus. Land of the free? Tell it to the monopoly on god and country the religious right believe they are entitled to. Want to know what went wrong with America? Take a look at who has been driving this rig since the 50s. Here's a hint. It's not the poor and powerless...although you wouldn't know it to hear the babbling propaganda of those who wish they could rewrite history.
Now back to the brave and patriotic stand you guys take on things like higher efficiency light bulbs...
What else did the energy lobby for Jesus tell you to believe?
Perhaps if you weren't trying to stir up scandal before the man even took office, American's would give a rat's @ss when you cry wolf.
Hey Canton! Surprised to see you here on a sunny afternoon. But then again, it's the middle of June and too chilly to do anything outside, so why not come here?

Yes, this is the land of the free, but Republicans understand that means the land of free people. Liberals took it literally: free Obama phones, free healthcare, free HUD house in the suburbs, free utilities, free schooling, free daycare..........

Now you ask a very interesting question: who's been driving this rig for the last 50 years? Actually, it takes three drivers: President, Congress and Senate. So with that understanding, perhaps you can answer your very own question.
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Obama Bias against Union Workers, Consumers, and Taxpayers:

President Barrack Obama supports holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay property tax on state appraised value of their American Dream. Pay interest on lottery winners winnings Legislators invest in school bonds, Pay bank interest on purchase price of American Dream for 30 years.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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Nonunion Low Wage Workers Consumers and Taxpayers:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; electing Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That complies with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

This would purge USA of low wage workers, consumers, and taxpayers.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. And pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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Newell Rubbermaid:

Newell Rubbermaid Stockholders need to close Newell Rubbermaid business in Wooster and move to enterprise zone awarding more tax abatement and nonunion workers, consumers, and taxpayer willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into Newell Rubbermaid Stockholders, OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

Support Newell Rubbermaid defying USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding Newell Rubbermaid and every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, Pay for tax abatements Newell Rubbermaid evades, and tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) Newell Rubbermaid, OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly; In the wholesale and retail price of Newell Rubbermaid product and service. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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No Business Can Pay a Cent of Tax;

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of paying all taxes levied against them and every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
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Jun 14, 2013
 
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Union labor needs to live within their means Loren.
They have no choice.

Union workers, consumers, and taxpayers don't qualify to pay with welfare check, food stamp, housing voucher, or Medicaid.
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Hey Canton! Surprised to see you here on a sunny afternoon. But then again, it's the middle of June and too chilly to do anything outside, so why not come here?
Yes, this is the land of the free, but Republicans understand that means the land of free people. Liberals took it literally: free Obama phones, free healthcare, free HUD house in the suburbs, free utilities, free schooling, free daycare..........
Now you ask a very interesting question: who's been driving this rig for the last 50 years? Actually, it takes three drivers: President, Congress and Senate. So with that understanding, perhaps you can answer your very own question.
Strange that I don't get any of those things for free, nor do any of the people I know. Yet still, I don't gleefully want borderless corporations running our country like you. Remember when those "Liberals" made children pray to their god in public schools for decades? Remember how those "Liberals" threw science out the window and taught children the earth was made by a sky ghost in 6 days? Yah, neither do I. Now about those "freedoms" the religious right are so inclusive about...Ha ha ha.
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TruckDrivingGenius wrote:
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Strange that I don't get any of those things for free, nor do any of the people I know. Yet still, I don't gleefully want borderless corporations running our country like you. Remember when those "Liberals" made children pray to their god in public schools for decades? Remember how those "Liberals" threw science out the window and taught children the earth was made by a sky ghost in 6 days? Yah, neither do I. Now about those "freedoms" the religious right are so inclusive about...Ha ha ha.
Well I guess you had to be there in the times when society was more God fearing.

You see, nobody forced kids to do anything. Society in itself was very religious. In fact, many cities didn't even allow the sale of alcohol on the Lords Day. When a witness testified in court, he or she put their hand on the Holy Bible and swore to God they were telling the truth. God is on our currency. Prayer is still what starts sessions of Congress.

Nobody was forced into religion. Society itself chose to be religious. Not such a bad thing really. Back then, many people slept with their front doors wide open. We didn't need metal detectors in our schools. A high school girl getting pregnant was a shameful thing. Today, they throw baby showers in the high school itself. Two parent families were the norm and not the exception.

Yeah, liberals came along and took God out of school, and replaced it with teaching children how to put condoms on bananas. We sure are heading in the right direction thanks to liberalism though.
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...many cities didn't even allow the sale of alcohol on the Lords Day.
Not just alcohol --- the "blue laws" applied to most businesses (except restaurants and drug stores.) It was a big deal in my town when the Hill's department store was the first to open on a Sunday.
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Nobody was forced into religion.
The "blue laws" applied to everyone, even if you were an atheist or celebrated the Sabbath on another day. It was the Christian majority forcing their Sabbath on everyone else.

And, in the early 1950s (thanks to a Republican/Catholic coalition) the words "under God" were added to the Pledge, and school kids were forced to say it, even if they didn't believe in God.

Or society has become much more secular since then, but there are still many that try to force their beliefs on others.

"In 1953, the Roman Catholic men's group, the Knights of Columbus mounted a campaign to add the words "under God" to the Pledge. The nation was suffering through the height of the cold war, and the McCarthy communist witch hunt. Partly in reaction to these factors, a reported 15 resolutions were initiated in Congress to change the pledge. They got nowhere until Rev. George Docherty (1911 - 2008) preached a sermon that was attended by President Eisenhower and the national press corps on 1954-FEB-7. His sermon said in part:

"Apart from the mention of the phrase 'the United States of America,' it could be the pledge of any republic. In fact, I could hear little Muscovites repeat a similar pledge to their hammer-and-sickle flag in Moscow."

After the service, President Eisenhower said that he agreed with the sermon. In the following weeks, the news spread, and public opinion grew. Three days later, Senator Homer Ferguson,(R-MI), sponsored a bill to add God to the Pledge. It was approved as a joint resolution 1954-JUN-8. It was signed into law on Flag Day, JUN-14. President Eisenhower said at the time:

"From this day forward, the millions of our schoolchildren will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural schoolhouse, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/nat_pled1.h...

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LorenEberly wrote:
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They have no choice.
Union workers, consumers, and taxpayers don't qualify to pay with welfare check, food stamp, housing voucher, or Medicaid.
It also means not depending on getting overtime. If handouts weren't so damn easy to come by we would have more people living within their means.
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Old Guy wrote:
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Not just alcohol --- the "blue laws" applied to most businesses (except restaurants and drug stores.) It was a big deal in my town when the Hill's department store was the first to open on a Sunday.
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The "blue laws" applied to everyone, even if you were an atheist or celebrated the Sabbath on another day. It was the Christian majority forcing their Sabbath on everyone else.
And, in the early 1950s (thanks to a Republican/Catholic coalition) the words "under God" were added to the Pledge, and school kids were forced to say it, even if they didn't believe in God.
Or society has become much more secular since then, but there are still many that try to force their beliefs on others.
Oh, I know how that is. Global Warming, gay marriage, affirmative action..........

But you do know of course that those blue laws were laws of the community and not of the federal, state or county. I too remember when stores started to open up on Sunday. It was at the beginning of the liberal change in our society when women started to become the breadwinner. Where I live, it was voted on district by district and not the entire city. In spite of the liberal movement, not all were on that bandwagon and a vote by the entire city may have met defeat.

The point is that it's the community that decides if they wish to be a religious; at least that's the way it was until liberals came along. Then if people of a certain community had their children and their religion in school, and one liberal snuck in, everything had to change for that one liberal, and to hell with the rest of the people. So much for Democracy.

I've grown to understand liberals though. The only joy a liberal gets in life is to make other people miserable just like they are.

If a liberal sees a man sitting on a park bench enjoying a cigarette, a liberal will not stand for that. He or she runs to government so they take that enjoyment away. If a liberal sees a happy man because of his financial success, the liberal runs to his government leaders and demands they take that mans money away. If a liberal sees that a man is happy being able to defend himself with his firearm, the liberals demand government take that happiness and security away from that man. If a liberal finds out that heirs to a wealthy man become instantly wealthy themselves, the liberal protests that the the money belongs more to government than the family.

And yes, liberals have done the same thing to religious people, because people celebrating their religion made them happy, and a liberal will not stand for others being happy.
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Investment Firms and Money Marketers:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

President, the Justices they appoint, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members. Get an injunction against Investment Firms, OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) that market more stock dividends (money) quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life.

And hold every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church accountable; to market the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

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