Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19098 Jun 17, 2013
Jeff wrote:
why are tards posting in a defunct thread?
Ask yourself that question. Why did YOU post in a "defunct thread"?
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19099 Jun 17, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
“The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.“Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you’re smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That’s why I’m a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.”
Does the fact that this quote isn't real trouble you at all?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/carvill...
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19100 Jun 17, 2013
EatTheFacts wrote:
"This nation was founded on Christianity". Ever hear that one?
Anyone who wonders about the views of our founding fathers on this issue should examine the Treaty of Tripoli, unanimously ratified by the Senate and signed by our second President. It contains this passage: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripol...
Pops

Newport, KY

#19105 Jun 17, 2013
Jeff wrote:
why are tards posting in a defunct thread?
You just posted so you should be able to answer your own question...tard

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#19106 Jun 17, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
<quoted text>
What if they offered amnesty to the 18 trillion dollars held offshore? Afterall, combine that with the Fairtax which completely negates corporate tax - I think the economy would grow at a meltdown pace, corporations would flock here even from China.
Federal Government is never going to offer amnesty because back in 1970 when Nixon created OPIC or Overseas Private Investment Corporation the thinking was the that the Federal Government would assist companies to invest in oversea ventures and if the ventures succeeded then the Federal Government would benefit in taxes and if companies venture failed then the Federal Government would responsible for the losses and right now the Federal Government would love to tax that money that is still held overseas.
LorenEberly

Mount Gilead, OH

#19107 Jun 17, 2013
Affirmative Action:

Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; insist on electing Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Mount Gilead, OH

#19108 Jun 17, 2013
Abortion:

Congress holding doctors accountable to inform uneducated women of all fetus’“relevant features” and demanding adult women wait 48 hours to get an abortion; says nothing positive about education in USA.
LorenEberly

Mount Gilead, OH

#19109 Jun 17, 2013
InfoCison:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands every worker “slam the door closed” on every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; That refuses to market the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19110 Jun 17, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither am I. What I dispute is that 25 states still have blue laws to enforce religion.
They impose the Sunday Sabbath on those who do not share that belief, by regulating the commercial activities that can be performed on that day. Originally they were directed at individual behaviors, mostly drinking and gambling on the Sunday Sabbath. But, with time, it was found to be easier to regulate commercial enterprises rather than individuals.

I have no doubt that if the "day of the week when you couldn't do certain things" was suddenly switched to Saturday or Friday, you would swell up in moral outrage at the persecution.
Bill

Saint Clairsville, OH

#19111 Jun 17, 2013
Nobody in their right mind would vote for him again.
AnimalControl SissorHands

Lima, OH

#19112 Jun 17, 2013
does complain' help....?....Baby!

keep ur change

//
Pops

Newport, KY

#19113 Jun 18, 2013
Canton is back. Missed ya & your funny posts. Were you on vacation away from the internet? Welcome back.
Josh

Alexandria, VA

#19114 Jun 18, 2013
Hbbm
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19115 Jun 18, 2013
Pops wrote:
Canton is back. Missed ya & your funny posts. Were you on vacation away from the internet? Welcome back.
Hi Pops. Was taking care of my Grandmother for a few. Good to hear from you too. Now back to your butt whoopings...
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19116 Jun 18, 2013
There is a Christian Sunday school song called "The Countdown". In the song, all the little Christian kids gleefully count down to the return of Jesus and the end of the world. This "free country" never batted an eye at the thought.

Now, in this "free country", let's imagine a basement full of little Muslim kids, gleefully counting down to the end of the world. Think that would bother anyone?

Religion F'd this country and those who voted with their Bibles are to blame.
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19117 Jun 18, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Jobs jobs jobs jobs...... hear that one before? Yep and now there's fewer jobs and people working them since before World War II.
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Liberals tell the truth...... when they want to: "Guess what this liberal would be all about? This liberal will be about socializing...uh, um...Would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your businesses."
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Liberals admit to yerning for a one party fascist state:“I think some people are missing something here. The president has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life.”“That’s going to be very, very powerful. That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it’s never been done before.”
“And whoever runs for president on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very powerful what he's leaving in place."
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More democrats tell the truth about their own party:
“Ideologies aren’t all that important. What’s important is psychology.“The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.“Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have a clue as to political reality.“What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want.
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“The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.“Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you’re smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That’s why I’m a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.”
Sorry but those "jobs, jobs, jobs" all skipped town with our 401K plans when Bush was in office. Ain't that right, Hoover Company, Danner Press, Diebold...All left under Bush. There's your mouth and there's this thing called reality. We can't all follow the truths of the GOP...(Also see "Read my lips, no new taxes and WMDs in Iraq".)
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19118 Jun 18, 2013
The "truths" of the GOP...

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19119 Jun 18, 2013
You're completely full of ahitt your eyes must be brown.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19120 Jun 18, 2013
Sh!tt*
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19121 Jun 18, 2013
The funny thing is, I'm not a Liberal or a Socialist. I just can't stand an oil money moron cashing in on the sheepish Christian Right at the cost of our American soldiers. Oil and Jesus go hand and hand. That's why "I don't believe in global warming" started in the church. Don't believe me? I used to monitor Christian Right fund raising phone calls. I listened to simple, God fearing folks suddenly making bold claims about global weather patterns with no Biblical, or even logical founding. Strange how it was during the exact same time that the Koch brother oil billionaires were spending millions to refute climate change, a claim they later did a complete turn around on. I spent years on the front lines of what you follow and I can tell you, hate Obama or not, you are being deceived. I don't trust the government any more than you do. I am just wide enough to know that the current "anti-government" movement is run by Rightwing Christian Conservative Republicans, who were so ashamed for voting for Bush twice, that they changed their name to the Tea Party. Any attempt they make to point out the flaws in our current administration, is just a feeble attempt to make those who voted for Obama, seem half as gullible as those that withy Bible in hand, voted for Bush and gleefully sent our troops off to die so Halliburton could rake in billions of dollars in no bid government contracts. Usually companies will fight tooth and nail for a government contract. America paid top dollar and never put the bids on the table. I know...I know. It's all just a big coincidence that it was Dick Cheney's old company. Sure it was.

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