Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
LorenEberly

Mansfield, OH

#19129 Jun 18, 2013
Michelin Stockholders Invests $435 million in Indonesia Venture:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands Stockholders investing money derived from stock dividends in foreign tax abated enterprise zones. That use nonunion workers, consumers, and taxpayers to produce their product and service. Sell their product and service to nonunion workers, consumers, and taxpayers.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully elect Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And Holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. And pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
Pops

Fort Thomas, KY

#19130 Jun 18, 2013
BetterOffNow wrote:
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Hi Pops. Was taking care of my Grandmother for a few. Good to hear from you too. Now back to your butt whoopings...
How's your grandmother? Since my Mom just passed while I was helping take care of her in in home hospice, I extend my compassion to you & your family.
Pops

Fort Thomas, KY

#19131 Jun 18, 2013
BetterOffNow wrote:
There is a Christian Sunday school song called "The Countdown". In the song, all the little Christian kids gleefully count down to the return of Jesus and the end of the world. This "free country" never batted an eye at the thought.
Now, in this "free country", let's imagine a basement full of little Muslim kids, gleefully counting down to the end of the world. Think that would bother anyone?
Religion F'd this country and those who voted with their Bibles are to blame.
You are clearly making up for lost time dude.
1st; your 'countdown' story about Christians & Muslims is a faulty comparison. Christians do NOT avow death to "infidels" or decapitate 'nonbelievers'. Christians did NOT put a bounty on Salman Rushdi or stone adulterers to death, Christians do NOT cut the hands off of pickpockets etc etc. Muslims started the Crusades, Barbary Pirates (which lead to the very first U.S. foreign war) strap bombs to children & without mercy kill innocents of their own in those same bombings & they continue starting conflicts world wide. It isn't all of them but it is far too many.
Christians started the Red Cross, discovered antibiotics, steam ships, telescopes,
IF your question is an 'either or' Christian/Muslim singing a countdown song, I would clearly side with Christians.
I could say a little more but enough should be enough...except for you.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19132 Jun 18, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> Muslims started the Crusades
It may interest you to know that the word "Crusades" has a French origin, and means "taking up the cross." The person who called for them was Pope Urban II in 1095.

"... at the Council of Clermont in southern France, the pope called on Western Christians to take up arms in order to aid the Byzantines and recapture the Holy Land from Muslim control. Pope Urban's plea met with a tremendous response, both among lower levels of the military elite (who would form a new class of knights) as well as ordinary citizens; it was determined that those who joined the armed pilgrimage would wear a cross as a symbol of the Church."

http://www.history.com/topics/crusades
Pops

Fort Thomas, KY

#19133 Jun 19, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
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It may interest you to know that the word "Crusades" has a French origin, and means "taking up the cross." The person who called for them was Pope Urban II in 1095.
"... at the Council of Clermont in southern France, the pope called on Western Christians to take up arms in order to aid the Byzantines and recapture the Holy Land from Muslim control. Pope Urban's plea met with a tremendous response, both among lower levels of the military elite (who would form a new class of knights) as well as ordinary citizens; it was determined that those who joined the armed pilgrimage would wear a cross as a symbol of the Church."
http://www.history.com/topics/crusades
Don't be short sighted. The Crusades were to take lands back from the Muslims which THEY had taken from predominately Christians. It doesn't matter if the word Crusades had a Jive, Swedish or Hindu origin. The Muslims were the initial agressors.
GBA

Saint Marys, OH

#19134 Jun 19, 2013
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19135 Jun 19, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>You are clearly making up for lost time dude.
1st; your 'countdown' story about Christians & Muslims is a faulty comparison. Christians do NOT avow death to "infidels" or decapitate 'nonbelievers'. Christians did NOT put a bounty on Salman Rushdi or stone adulterers to death, Christians do NOT cut the hands off of pickpockets etc etc. Muslims started the Crusades, Barbary Pirates (which lead to the very first U.S. foreign war) strap bombs to children & without mercy kill innocents of their own in those same bombings & they continue starting conflicts world wide. It isn't all of them but it is far too many.
Christians started the Red Cross, discovered antibiotics, steam ships, telescopes,
IF your question is an 'either or' Christian/Muslim singing a countdown song, I would clearly side with Christians.
I could say a little more but enough should be enough...except for you.
Perhaps it was the 12 years of theological studies that makes me so clueless as to what Christians are up to. I'm sure there are no instances in history where Christians committed brutal acts based on their religion. I mean other than the hundreds of thousands of innocent men and women who were burned alive for being "witches and werewolves". We'll skip over that whole 76% of all child molesters in America claiming they are Christian thing. Hey, wanna see a video of GW Bush, the man who claimed God told him to invade Iraq calling the war a "crusade"? I forget. Other than killing Christians' number one religious rival, the Muslims, what did we accomplish from that war? Go ahead and refresh my memory. Why did our soldiers get sent off to die in Iraq? I mean besides making Halliburton billions of dollars.
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19136 Jun 19, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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I have a better one: nobody making under 250K per year will see a new tax of any kind; none.
I think you are confusing 401K's with pension plans. BTW, how many of those companies were union anyhow?
Nope. Personally saw people lose tens of thousands of dollars in their 401K plans. Besides, the "job providers" did away with pension plans decades ago. Mention a pension plan to a young person and they will either laugh at you or seem puzzled as to what you are talking about. I'm sure the "job providers" who told you to be a good fetch boy and that worker's rights are bad were just looking out for the working man when they did away with pensions. Those companies did in fact THRIVE under unions for years and years. Then along came trickle down and read my lips, followed by mission accomplished. I don't blame you for trying to rewrite history as it paints you and yours as a bunch of corporate fetch boy traitors to your own country.
BetterOffNow

Canton, OH

#19137 Jun 19, 2013
Mmmmm how's those facts taste?
GBA-freedom

Saint Marys, OH

#19138 Jun 19, 2013
BetterOffNow wrote:
Mmmmm how's those facts taste?
Like good old fashion rolly polly dirt and smell liberal talking points. Not a lick of it factual. Don't bring toy guns to the battle. I'm amazed you weren't eaten when young.
LorenEberly

Sunbury, OH

#19139 Jun 19, 2013
Medicaid:

Medicaid is defiant of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint Governor, and Representatives of US the Government. Hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE.

This created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19140 Jun 19, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>
Muslims started the Crusades
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>The Crusades were to take lands back from the Muslims...
That's right. That's why it doesn't make sense to say that "Muslims started the Crusades." Here's a good article, which provides a lot of historical context:

"Spanning more than two centuries (1096-1300 CE), the Crusades were, in essence, military expeditions initiated by the Medieval papacy to wrest the Holy Lands from Moslem control. That means, if they can be traced back to a single source, it's fair to say it was the Christian Church in the West. Yet, the promotion of warfare was clearly not at the top of the Vatican's agenda prior to the eleventh century and so it's also fair to ask how such a dramatic shift in policy came to be, that popes moved from denouncing bloodshed to demanding it in the name of God.

In one respect, the answer to that question is easy: these extended military raids stemmed from changes which took place outside Europe before the age of the Crusades, principally the growth and expansion of Islam. Indeed, Christian holy wars such as these bear a striking resemblance—and, no doubt, owe at least some of their existence—to the Moslem custom of the jihad, which by then had become a very successful Islamic institution. By translating the notion of a "holy warrior" into Christian terms, a succession of Medieval popes and churchmen created the crusader, a "knight of Christ."

http://www.usu.edu/markdamen/1320Hist&Civ...
Funny

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#19141 Jun 19, 2013
Wth...
Ron Paul

Peebles, OH

#19143 Jun 19, 2013
It won't this time, you must be on HEROIN.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19144 Jun 19, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Anybody you know that lost anything in their 401K likely pulled it because of fright. Those who stayed in recouped all their losses and then some.
You're right. That's probably why it's better to have a fixed pension, rather than a self-directed 401k, for most folks.
xxxrayted wrote:
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Hell, at the bottom of the market when DumBama first came in, I purchased as many shares as I could.
So, you were pretty sure that the election of "DumBama" was a sign that the markets would recover? That's very prescient of you, because most conservatives were pretty certain that his election would be terrible for our recovery. But you were right, things really couldn't get much worse than they were under G.W. Bush. Do you have a fun name for him, too?
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19145 Jun 19, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>How's your grandmother? Since my Mom just passed while I was helping take care of her in in home hospice, I extend my compassion to you & your family.
Very sorry for your loss.
TeaBaggingTraito rs

Canton, OH

#19146 Jun 20, 2013
GBA-freedom wrote:
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Like good old fashion rolly polly dirt and smell liberal talking points. Not a lick of it factual. Don't bring toy guns to the battle. I'm amazed you weren't eaten when young.
Show me then how those companies didn't leave when Bush was in office. Every word was fact. You blurting out lies don't change history, lil' trooper. Like every side burn wearing, Wayne for a middle name, the south will rise again hooptie tea bagger, just call it a lie and hope to not get called out on it. The main reason the GOP is viewed as appealing as a dirty diaper laying on the sidewalk is because this is the age of easily accessible information, and the standard of telling lies that never catch up to you that your party has used for decades is now been shut down by the internet. You lose. If only you could burn those pesky facts at the stake and make them all go away. Time for your party to come up with another conniving scheme. The cashing in on religion thing or rigging the voting machines got used up under GW Bush. Seems like your camp's Red Scare 2.0 has been slightly effective though. Anything but being human.
TeaBaggingTraito rs

Canton, OH

#19147 Jun 20, 2013
GBA-freedom wrote:
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Like good old fashion rolly polly dirt and smell liberal talking points. Not a lick of it factual. Don't bring toy guns to the battle. I'm amazed you weren't eaten when young.
Pipe down militia boy. You guys can call yourself Tea Party all day long. REAL Americans call you a rightwing Conservative Republican trying to hide his tracks that lead back to "Mission Accomplished".(Also see the worst president in the history of our nation)

Also, learn to form whole sentences, the next time you think you can roll with the big dogs. Still waiting for you to disprove my comments...cue the crickets chirping.

Toy guns are for indoctrinated, inbred rightwing religious Bible bunker grope kids to pass the time while mommy and cousin daddy waste their paranoid lives in a Fox News provided fear bubble.
TeaBaggingTraito rs

Canton, OH

#19148 Jun 20, 2013
GBA wrote:
I think it's funny that the IRS went after the treasonous Tea Baggers for Jesus and oil militia club. That's what they get for being loophole offshore leeches on American society their whole lives and then trying to blame it on poor people. Pay them taxes real good boy. Your free ride is over.
Pops

Fort Thomas, KY

#19151 Jun 20, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
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Very sorry for your loss.
TYVM. She had a good life & was very loved by her husband, 6 kids, 20 grand kids 20 great grand kids & she had 2 great great grand kids.
Something that one is not quit ready for even when one knows the day is coming. Married to my dad for 65+ yrs. Knew each other since they were 15 & 17...A long ass time. Toughest for him I'm sure, but he's the depression era/WWII Vet, the keep on trucking type.
That is why I gave Canton my sympathies too. Been there, done that, lived that.

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