Since: Aug 12

United States

#19019 Jun 10, 2013
Haliburton creates a lot of high paying jobs for Americans.
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How many farmers do you think there are anymore? One farmer can plant 300 acres of corn in a day now.
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Why have democrats so completely dumbed down gubment schools? Cuz smart kids would never vote for them.
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Here's a quote from a VERY PROMINENT democrat who let the truth slip out:
“Ideologies aren't all that important. What's important is psychology.
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The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That's why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.
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Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have a clue as to political reality.What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want.
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The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn't have a clue than there were Republicans.
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Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you're smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That's why I'm a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.”― James Carville
LorenEberly

Andover, OH

#19020 Jun 10, 2013
Nonunion Truck Brokers and Drivers:

Nonunion Truck Brokers and Drivers, workers, consumers, and taxpayers elect Obnoxious President, Vice President, and Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That supports Nonunion Truck Brokers and Drivers defying demands of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands Nonunion Truck Brokers and Drivers and every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables union Truck Brokers and Drivers, every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, Nonunion Truck Brokers and Drivers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Fund Nonunion Truck Brokers, consumers, and taxpayers, paying sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly in the cost of diesel fuel and gasoline. And In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. And pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Andover, OH

#19021 Jun 10, 2013
No Market for More Natural Gas:

Using the weight of water falling over Niagara Falls, off mountains, and over dams to power hydro generators to generate green electricity eliminates need for natural gas to generate electricity.

Is not supported by The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; that elect and reelect Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays for electricity, natural gas, oil, and coal; with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of electricity, natural gas, coal, oil, gasoline, and every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into natural gas pipeline Stockholders, OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#19022 Jun 10, 2013
Oh no!

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19023 Jun 10, 2013
As much as Loren sucks its no wonder they put up all them windmills in west central ohio.
Pops

Newport, KY

#19024 Jun 10, 2013
mapleman wrote:
<quoted text>
What is in the country's best interest? Does Haliburton care about the country's best interest? The company only seems to care about money it can make off war. What about the company's controlling private prisons? They want non-violent people arrested for drugs so they can make money. Is that good for America? What about the telecoms who pay politicians off so they can price gouge Americans? I could go on, but you get the picture. Corporations are voting the bottom line with little regard for America. Why should the SMART people be any different?
Typical of someone that has no valid point(s) to discuss, change the subject. The topic that you mentioned & that I responded to was people voting. You somehow think that interjecting Haliburton, which as a company is NOT a voting entity that can go to the polling place. No logic there
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19025 Jun 10, 2013
mapleman wrote:
<quoted text>
Move to Bay Village. You don't need a gun walking around out there. Keep a shotgun for home defense. Companies are leaving China for cheaper labor markets. Do you really think they will come back to the U.S.?
The Republican party is the home of racism and intolerance. Why do you think there is all the fuss about gay marriage? It's the home of whites worried about illegal immigrants taking their jobs. Illegal immigrants aren't doing any skilled labor. It's the legal immigrants who are more of a threat to skilled workers. But you can't tell that to mouth breathers.
Europe suffered from white flight to the U.S. and did just fine. People just go where things are going good and where they will have opportunity. That's life.
You ain't paying for none of that food. You don't make enough to pay for it. Stop acting as if you are in a millionaire tax bracket. LOL It's always the people who are a few steps from qualifying for the programs themselves who cry the loudest about paying for the programs. Hilarious.
11 million (or more) illegals are not all doing unskilled labor. Remember that I'm a truck driver, and I see these people driving trucks all the time. I don't know if they live here, but they are working here which does bring down American wages.

This is besides the fact that if American employers can't get Americans to work for the money they offer, they would be forced to offer more to attract workers. They don't have to now because of these illegals. If these illegals were not here and companies were forced to increase their pay rate, then perhaps that might open up more jobs for Americans. And don't be so concerned about whites. The black unemployment rate is nearly twice as high as the national average and yes, many of those jobs are lower wage jobs that the illegals are cutting into. But you know how blacks always vote Democrat which goes against their best interest.

If you pay income tax (which I do) you are paying for these social programs. If you are an American of any income, your country is going into debt because of these social programs which eventually all will have to pay. If you are an American of any income, remember that these politicians are borrowing your Social Security money to pay for them, and that means less for you when you need it.
BOOTH

Torrance, CA

#19026 Jun 10, 2013
Election. Sucked
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#19027 Jun 11, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
11 million (or more) illegals are not all doing unskilled labor. Remember that I'm a truck driver, and I see these people driving trucks all the time. I don't know if they live here, but they are working here which does bring down American wages.
This is besides the fact that if American employers can't get Americans to work for the money they offer, they would be forced to offer more to attract workers. They don't have to now because of these illegals. If these illegals were not here and companies were forced to increase their pay rate, then perhaps that might open up more jobs for Americans. And don't be so concerned about whites. The black unemployment rate is nearly twice as high as the national average and yes, many of those jobs are lower wage jobs that the illegals are cutting into. But you know how blacks always vote Democrat which goes against their best interest.
If you pay income tax (which I do) you are paying for these social programs. If you are an American of any income, your country is going into debt because of these social programs which eventually all will have to pay. If you are an American of any income, remember that these politicians are borrowing your Social Security money to pay for them, and that means less for you when you need it.
Hypocrite much? You cry about the unions and now you're crying about wages.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19028 Jun 11, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Hypocrite much? You cry about the unions and now you're crying about wages.
your myopia is astounding. Opening your eyes helps.
mapleman

Rosendaal, Netherlands

#19029 Jun 11, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
11 million (or more) illegals are not all doing unskilled labor. Remember that I'm a truck driver, and I see these people driving trucks all the time. I don't know if they live here, but they are working here which does bring down American wages.
This is besides the fact that if American employers can't get Americans to work for the money they offer, they would be forced to offer more to attract workers. They don't have to now because of these illegals. If these illegals were not here and companies were forced to increase their pay rate, then perhaps that might open up more jobs for Americans. And don't be so concerned about whites. The black unemployment rate is nearly twice as high as the national average and yes, many of those jobs are lower wage jobs that the illegals are cutting into. But you know how blacks always vote Democrat which goes against their best interest.
If you pay income tax (which I do) you are paying for these social programs. If you are an American of any income, your country is going into debt because of these social programs which eventually all will have to pay. If you are an American of any income, remember that these politicians are borrowing your Social Security money to pay for them, and that means less for you when you need it.
Again, illegals do unskilled jobs. The engineers and IT guys are here legally. Legal immigrants on Visas are taking skilled jobs. Skilled workers are not endangered by illegals. In fact, the rich(Republicans) actually want illegals here because they know it's not worth paying unskilled laborers living wages. Just pay illegals.

People will be paying for that Iraq cluster f@ck for years. They pay for the bloated military budget of the U.S. They pay for all the people being made unemployable by the prison industrial complex. We will have our money wasted one way or another. That isn't going to change. One of the first things the forefathers of the U.S. did when they got in charge was start taxing people to death. They didn't like it when it was done to them, but they made people bootleggers trying to get tax money. It's been going downhill since day one. If you notice, it's only got worse through the centuries. It hasn't got any better since the 1700s. More take. More waste. Such is the nature of government. Eliminate social programs tomorrow, and they are still going to f@ck you.

If I take money from you, who cares if I shred it or burn it. In either case, I'm wasting it. That's what you don't realize. You are never going to get your money's worth. It's gone.
LorenEberly

Andover, OH

#19032 Jun 11, 2013
Government Officials Snooping:

It is the responsibility of the majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; to elect Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members. To snoop on foreign and domestic aggressors; this enables them to honor their Oath; to defend every American citizen from foreign and domestic aggression.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
LorenEberly

Andover, OH

#19033 Jun 11, 2013
Governor Needs to Abolish Medicaid:

Iowa Governor Needs to Abolish Medicaid and comply with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
LorenEberly

Andover, OH

#19034 Jun 11, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
11 million (or more) illegals are not all doing unskilled labor. Remember that I'm a truck driver, and I see these people driving trucks all the time. I don't know if they live here, but they are working here which does bring down American wages.
This is besides the fact that if American employers can't get Americans to work for the money they offer, they would be forced to offer more to attract workers. They don't have to now because of these illegals. If these illegals were not here and companies were forced to increase their pay rate, then perhaps that might open up more jobs for Americans. And don't be so concerned about whites. The black unemployment rate is nearly twice as high as the national average and yes, many of those jobs are lower wage jobs that the illegals are cutting into. But you know how blacks always vote Democrat which goes against their best interest.
If you pay income tax (which I do) you are paying for these social programs. If you are an American of any income, your country is going into debt because of these social programs which eventually all will have to pay. If you are an American of any income, remember that these politicians are borrowing your Social Security money to pay for them, and that means less for you when you need it.
Union Man President Ronald Reagan was a union man that complied with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
farmer

Wellston, OH

#19035 Jun 11, 2013
What
Pops

Newport, KY

#19036 Jun 11, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Hypocrite much? You cry about the unions and now you're crying about wages.
your comprehension needs excercising, it's a little weak.
There was NO 'crying about wages'. The mention was simply one facet of a point being made that obviously escaped you. too bad.
Pops

Newport, KY

#19037 Jun 11, 2013
mapleman wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, illegals do unskilled jobs. The engineers and IT guys are here legally. Legal immigrants on Visas are taking skilled jobs. Skilled workers are not endangered by illegals. In fact, the rich(Republicans) actually want illegals here because they know it's not worth paying unskilled laborers living wages. Just pay illegals.
People will be paying for that Iraq cluster f@ck for years. They pay for the bloated military budget of the U.S. They pay for all the people being made unemployable by the prison industrial complex. We will have our money wasted one way or another. That isn't going to change. One of the first things the forefathers of the U.S. did when they got in charge was start taxing people to death. They didn't like it when it was done to them, but they made people bootleggers trying to get tax money. It's been going downhill since day one. If you notice, it's only got worse through the centuries. It hasn't got any better since the 1700s. More take. More waste. Such is the nature of government. Eliminate social programs tomorrow, and they are still going to f@ck you.
If I take money from you, who cares if I shred it or burn it. In either case, I'm wasting it. That's what you don't realize. You are never going to get your money's worth. It's gone.
I don't agree with some of what you have stated but I finally see logical thinking in the post.
In the 1st paragraph, the remark about what Repubs want may be right but can be argued. the rest is spot on.
As far as 'bloated' budgets....of course. Many or most family budgets are just as guilty. Difference is that the family budget for the most part, affects only that family, we all have a right to whine about how our tax dollars are spent which segues to your claim that the forefathers taxing people to death & them not liking it when it was done to them....not quite correct. What was

'done to them' was the taxation without representation for King George making or approving all final taxes & the decisions that prompted them. An example being that many taxes were structured so that certain goods had to be purchased from England as opposed to being made in the colonies because of tax structures & the list of examples could fill a book.
The colonies had limited power about the taxes but the STATES had representatives.
You are also totally correct about liquor taxes being the cause of 'moonshiners/bootleggers' & personally, I think that it has made for a great adventure in Americana. I have found the remnants of stills in the Appalacian Mtns when hiking off of trails & found the stimulation of my imagination wandering down paths of history.
And of course, EVERY 'social program' can be pared along with the military budget.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19038 Jun 11, 2013
mapleman wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, illegals do unskilled jobs. The engineers and IT guys are here legally. Legal immigrants on Visas are taking skilled jobs. Skilled workers are not endangered by illegals. In fact, the rich(Republicans) actually want illegals here because they know it's not worth paying unskilled laborers living wages. Just pay illegals.
People will be paying for that Iraq cluster f@ck for years. They pay for the bloated military budget of the U.S. They pay for all the people being made unemployable by the prison industrial complex. We will have our money wasted one way or another. That isn't going to change. One of the first things the forefathers of the U.S. did when they got in charge was start taxing people to death. They didn't like it when it was done to them, but they made people bootleggers trying to get tax money. It's been going downhill since day one. If you notice, it's only got worse through the centuries. It hasn't got any better since the 1700s. More take. More waste. Such is the nature of government. Eliminate social programs tomorrow, and they are still going to f@ck you.
If I take money from you, who cares if I shred it or burn it. In either case, I'm wasting it. That's what you don't realize. You are never going to get your money's worth. It's gone.
Why would Republican politicians care about what people pay for wages in this country? They don't care about that because it doesn't buy them one vote. Democrat politicians on the other hand have a huge investment in illegals; most of them believe in the cradle to grave system and will vote Democrat in the future.

I think what you should do is make more friends down south like in Texas or Arizona. Tell THEM that illegals are not taking on skilled jobs such as bricklaying, carpentry, electricians, remodelers. You really think that contractors don't hire and train illegals; that these non-English speaking people can't repair a toilet or snake out a sewer line?

You are correct that taxing and spending has gotten much worse through the years, and it's people like you that are to blame. You know "vote for your self-interest?" If you surrender your dignity, then you've surrendered everything. How do you think we got to the point where half of the people in this country pay no income tax? How do you think we got to the point where half of the people in this country live either partially or entirely on the federal government? Because of people like me????

Keep voting for your own interest while I vote for the best interest for the future of our country. If more people would turn off Dancing With The Stars and start paying attention to politics, you would see how fast they stop wasting money, because the worst enemy of a politician is an educated voter.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger, on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison. Annals of Congress, 1794
mapleman

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#19039 Jun 12, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I don't agree with some of what you have stated but I finally see logical thinking in the post.
In the 1st paragraph, the remark about what Repubs want may be right but can be argued. the rest is spot on.
As far as 'bloated' budgets....of course. Many or most family budgets are just as guilty. Difference is that the family budget for the most part, affects only that family, we all have a right to whine about how our tax dollars are spent which segues to your claim that the forefathers taxing people to death & them not liking it when it was done to them....not quite correct. What was
'done to them' was the taxation without representation for King George making or approving all final taxes & the decisions that prompted them. An example being that many taxes were structured so that certain goods had to be purchased from England as opposed to being made in the colonies because of tax structures & the list of examples could fill a book.
The colonies had limited power about the taxes but the STATES had representatives.
You are also totally correct about liquor taxes being the cause of 'moonshiners/bootleggers' & personally, I think that it has made for a great adventure in Americana. I have found the remnants of stills in the Appalacian Mtns when hiking off of trails & found the stimulation of my imagination wandering down paths of history.
And of course, EVERY 'social program' can be pared along with the military budget.
My thinking is always logical. Corporations spend millions and millions putting "puppets" in place to do their bidding. It's all for the best interests of the corporations, not the country. So what's wrong with individuals doing the same thing? Even if you look at politics at the local level, you will see people putting business first over local needs. A contractor may financially back a certain politician because he knows he will get that politician to do unnecessary building work. A law firm can do the same thing. The politician then wastes money billing unnecessary legal hours at the city's expense.

My point about history is to show it was screwed from the start. As soon as they got power, they started in on the "f@ck you, pay me" tax game. It's been downhill ever since. Some of the people were wishing King George was back in charge.

Render unto Caesar all things that are his, and watch him p@ss away your money. It's been like this since the days they tarred and feathered tax collectors in ancient Egypt. The best thing people can do is practice tax avoidance like corporations do. Try to pay as little as possible. Why stress over something that has been going on and will never stop? Whether it's $500,000 experiments on why monkeys like bananas or food stamps, our money is gone.

What really kills me is people who are not rich acting as if they are. People are one bout with cancer from needing social programs. Fighting a medical condition could easily wipe out a person's savings(I've seen it happen). What if a person has a stroke? Then what? Until I have a few million in the bank, I don't want the programs eliminated.
mapleman

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#19040 Jun 12, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would Republican politicians care about what people pay for wages in this country? They don't care about that because it doesn't buy them one vote. Democrat politicians on the other hand have a huge investment in illegals; most of them believe in the cradle to grave system and will vote Democrat in the future.
I think what you should do is make more friends down south like in Texas or Arizona. Tell THEM that illegals are not taking on skilled jobs such as bricklaying, carpentry, electricians, remodelers. You really think that contractors don't hire and train illegals; that these non-English speaking people can't repair a toilet or snake out a sewer line?
You are correct that taxing and spending has gotten much worse through the years, and it's people like you that are to blame. You know "vote for your self-interest?" If you surrender your dignity, then you've surrendered everything. How do you think we got to the point where half of the people in this country pay no income tax? How do you think we got to the point where half of the people in this country live either partially or entirely on the federal government? Because of people like me????
Keep voting for your own interest while I vote for the best interest for the future of our country. If more people would turn off Dancing With The Stars and start paying attention to politics, you would see how fast they stop wasting money, because the worst enemy of a politician is an educated voter.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger, on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison. Annals of Congress, 1794
Those aren't skilled jobs. Those are trades. The only reason people can make decent wages off trades is because of unions. Do you see all the infrastructure that was built in the late 19th and early 20th century using trade workers? They didn't get paid sh@t until unions came into being because it's not skilled work. A bricklayer or carpenter dies on the job, there are dozens waiting to take his place. I'm talking engineers, developers, and accountants. You're talking monkey jobs.

I will keep voting what's best for me. If that's how the big boys do it, why shouldn't I?

And I don't hear you complaining about the U.S. locking up all these non-violent drug offenders. Why don't you rally against that government waste? The U.S. locks up more people than any other country. Who foots the bill? The tax payer. Who foots the bill when these people become unemployable because of criminal records? You do. But who gets rich off the prison industrial complex? The corporations. LOL But I never hear Republicans talking about implementing something like Portugal's decriminalization policy. Why not rally against the bloated military budget? You guys aren't against government waste. You guys are just bitter. Go fly to the Bahamas and enjoy life. Your government doesn't care about you and obviously you don't care about true government waste.

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