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#18989 Jun 8, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
America could take back jobs but the democrats don't have the balls to set corporate tax rate at zero percent. Would be difficult enough to get repubs to do it.
September 18, 2012

Some Big Corporations Don’t Pay Taxes, Either

By BRUCE BARTLETT

One problem with the Republican theory is that many big corporations actually pay little, if any, federal income tax. For example, The New York Times has reported that General Electric, the sixth-largest corporation in the United States, earned $14.2 billion in 2010, but disclosed in federal filings that it had no federal tax liability.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/...

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#18990 Jun 8, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
America could take back jobs but the democrats don't have the balls to set corporate tax rate at zero percent. Would be difficult enough to get repubs to do it.
February 19, 2013

Who Pays the Corporate Income Tax

By BRUCE BARTLETT

Bruce Bartlett held senior policy roles in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations and served on the staffs of Representatives Jack Kemp and Ron Paul. He is the author of “The Benefit and the Burden: Tax Reform – Why We Need It and What It Will Take.”

The problem, of course, is that people must ultimately pay all taxes. Corporations, contrary to the views of some Republicans, are not people. They are legal entities that exist only because governments permit them to and are artificial vehicles through which sales, wages and profits flow. Hence, the actual burden of the corporate tax may fall on any of the groups that receive such flows; namely, customers, workers and shareholders, the ultimate owners of the corporation.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18991 Jun 8, 2013
mapleman wrote:
<quoted text>
Affluent people vote Republican for financial reasons. Mouth-breathers vote Republican against their financial best interests. Mouth-breathers are worried about social conservatism. It's a fact that uneducated people tend to be more conservative socially. The minority vote is what throws off the education demographics. Minorities rightfully vote for their best interests. Look at the bible belt. Some of the dumbest white people in existence are in those states. Those states are Republican strongholds.
Yes, my advice is to screw other people and think about yourself. The same way your ancestors did when they left Poland. Why didn't they stay there and work on the country? Why be opportunists? You are in the U.S. because other people in your family followed my line of thinking. Go to where the getting is good. Look out for number one.
Looking out for number one is what the corporations did. They sent the jobs overseas to increase the bottom line. Think they care what happens to the U.S.? The only people who don't look out for number one are the mouth-breathers in the Republican party. At least poor Democrats have the good sense to vote for their financial interests. I can't stand the inbred Republican base. Literally one check from the poor house and still don't get the game. But at least they have their pride. That and $4 can get them a gallon of gas. LOL
And the mouth-breathers have given Americans a bad global reputation. Every country I go to, I hear about the uneducated and angry dolts who make up the Republican base. War-hungry. Crazy about guns and intolerant. Ignorant. The Republican base has really done a number for America's reputation.
Please. The only people that believe all that nonsense are those with weak minds. The Democrats say--the followers do. If Democrats say Republicans are racist, then damn it, Republicans are racist. If Democrats say Republicans are stupid, then damn it, Republicans are stupid. Sheep are really unbelievable at times. They don't even realize how they're being brainwashed.

It's not the minorities alone who tilt the big cities towards Democrats, it's lower income white areas too like the west side of Cleveland. Oh, but unlike Republicans, they vote for their own self-interest. So why is Michael Moore a staunch Democrat? What about Warren Buffet, the late Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Oprah, Howard Stern and most all of Hollywood? They all know Democrats are out to get their money.

Now the difference between people coming here from other countries to better themselves and Democrat voters is that foreigners of yesteryear benefited at the expense of nobody but themselves. Democrat voters benefit at the expense of others. Big difference.

You are correct on one thing, and that is corporations don't care about American citizens. They care about producing products or services for profit. On the other hand, Democrat politicians don't care about American people either. That's why they are letting this country slide into debt our grandchildren can never repay.
Pops

Newport, KY

#18992 Jun 8, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>February 19, 2013
Who Pays the Corporate Income Tax
By BRUCE BARTLETT
Bruce Bartlett held senior policy roles in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations and served on the staffs of Representatives Jack Kemp and Ron Paul. He is the author of “The Benefit and the Burden: Tax Reform – Why We Need It and What It Will Take.”
The problem, of course, is that people must ultimately pay all taxes. Corporations, contrary to the views of some Republicans, are not people. They are legal entities that exist only because governments permit them to and are artificial vehicles through which sales, wages and profits flow. Hence, the actual burden of the corporate tax may fall on any of the groups that receive such flows; namely, customers, workers and shareholders, the ultimate owners of the corporation.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/...
I am curious about your discription of 'artificial vehicles', in what way do you mean that?
In my opinion, the end consumer of any product or service is the one that pays all of any company taxes. Taxes are a business expense that must be passed on. That may be an opinion of semantics but it seems a law of economics too.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#18993 Jun 8, 2013
US Employers Add 175,000 Nonunion and Part Time Jobs:

Employers adding 175,000 nonunion and part time employees to US workforce; is defiant of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Employer, Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit; that pay with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#18994 Jun 8, 2013
Diebold:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands Diebold and every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Diebold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#18995 Jun 8, 2013
Iowa Governor Stand On Antiabortion:
Iowa Governor needs to comply with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.
Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.
This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.
Holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.
To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That produce product in tax abated enterprise zones in USA, Mexico, China, India, etc. for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.
Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.
Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.
Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation; that gets only product or service.
Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.
This created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.
America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#18996 Jun 8, 2013
US Foreign Policy:
US Foreign Policy demands President, Vice President, and Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.
Hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.
To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That produce product in tax abated enterprise zones in USA, Mexico, China, India, etc. for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.
Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.
Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.
Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.
Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.
US Government defying USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.
Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.
This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution and Realities demands; Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.
America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18997 Jun 8, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I am curious about your discription of 'artificial vehicles', in what way do you mean that?
In my opinion, the end consumer of any product or service is the one that pays all of any company taxes. Taxes are a business expense that must be passed on. That may be an opinion of semantics but it seems a law of economics too.
Liberals don't understand that. They believe whenever a cost is inflicted on the big guy, he just digs deeper into his pockets and does with less. Once he or she can't pass on the costs any longer, they leave the state or country.

In recent years, we were hit with all kinds of additional expenses because of environmental garbage. Our trucks now have to use Diesel Emission Fluid (or DEF for short) which squirts some sort of crap into the exhaust pipe to supposedly make it burn cleaner. New trucks cost about $7,000 more than they used to because of all the pollution crap on the darn thing. Then of course that means more crap to repair because 80% of the time when something goes wrong, it's a pollution gadget of some kind.

Since the law of lower sulfur in diesel fuel, it has exceeded the price of gasoline and remains so today.

So all these expenses of more repair costs, DEF, higher priced fuel, and higher priced trucks, of course my employer has to pass on these costs to our customers. Again, liberals don't understand that concept.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#18998 Jun 8, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I am curious about your discription of 'artificial vehicles', in what way do you mean that?
In my opinion, the end consumer of any product or service is the one that pays all of any company taxes. Taxes are a business expense that must be passed on. That may be an opinion of semantics but it seems a law of economics too.
BRUCE BARTLETT explains it in the article that Corporations are Artificial Vehicles created by the US Federal Government through laws and those laws specify what constitutes a Corporation. Bruce Bartlett makes a good point in the article too that corporations cannot raise prices to compensate for the corporate income tax because they will be undercut by businesses to which the tax does not apply. It should also be noted that the states have substantially different corporate tax regimes, including some that do not tax corporations at all, and we do not observe that prices for goods and services vary from state to state depending on its taxation of corporations.

That leaves two remaining groups that may bear the burden of the corporate tax: workers and shareholders.

In 1962, the University of Chicago economist Arnold C. Harberger, published an important article arguing that the corporate tax was borne entirely by shareholders. This was unquestionably true in the first instance; that is, when the corporate income tax was first imposed. The tax simply reduced corporate profits and had to come out of the pockets of shareholders, given that it could not be shifted onto consumers.

But as time went by, some economists argued that a substantial portion of the corporate income tax was ultimately paid by workers in the form of lower wages. This resulted because the supply of capital would shrink in order to raise the rate of return on capital. A smaller capital stock would reduce the productivity of labor and cause real wages to be lower in the long run.

Who Pays the Corporate Income Tax

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/...

The Incidence of the Corporation Income Tax

http://gatton.uky.edu/Faculty/hoytw/704/Harbe...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18999 Jun 8, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>BRUCE BARTLETT explains it in the article that Corporations are Artificial Vehicles created by the US Federal Government through laws and those laws specify what constitutes a Corporation. Bruce Bartlett makes a good point in the article too that corporations cannot raise prices to compensate for the corporate income tax because they will be undercut by businesses to which the tax does not apply. It should also be noted that the states have substantially different corporate tax regimes, including some that do not tax corporations at all, and we do not observe that prices for goods and services vary from state to state depending on its taxation of corporations.
That leaves two remaining groups that may bear the burden of the corporate tax: workers and shareholders.
In 1962, the University of Chicago economist Arnold C. Harberger, published an important article arguing that the corporate tax was borne entirely by shareholders. This was unquestionably true in the first instance; that is, when the corporate income tax was first imposed. The tax simply reduced corporate profits and had to come out of the pockets of shareholders, given that it could not be shifted onto consumers.
But as time went by, some economists argued that a substantial portion of the corporate income tax was ultimately paid by workers in the form of lower wages. This resulted because the supply of capital would shrink in order to raise the rate of return on capital. A smaller capital stock would reduce the productivity of labor and cause real wages to be lower in the long run.
Well it may be a combination of all those things in some cases. The point is however that companies don't dig deeper in their pockets to pay these taxes, fees and fines. They always recoup form somewhere else.

Take note how our house liberal (Canton) constantly complains how the workers wages have not gone up that much these passing years. He actually believes that it's all because of greed and what some CEO salary is. He disregards new regulations like Commie Care, increase in unemployment insurance, workman's compensation, increases in health insurance and things like that. It's the CEO's fault.

Remember that there is only so much the shareholders will lose. When that loss gets too great, they transfer their funds into other investments. You can only go to that well only so many times.
Thomas Scutillo

Aberdeen, OH

#19000 Jun 8, 2013
Motivation = (-_-)zzz

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19001 Jun 8, 2013
Ramming it down corporations throats will only yield less employment at the corporation and lower standard of living in the country. Short and simple...people will go invest someplace else.
.
The only reason the stock market is as high as it is now is there is nothing else worth investing in. Gold and Silver have stopped going up. Bank CDs are junk. Not going as fast as inflation so its just like losing money.
.
The US tax revenue generated is only made up of 12% corporate tax and its already the highest in the world. Time for a differant approach. Set it at zero and recoup the revenue through a million or more new high paying jobs and GDP sold!
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19002 Jun 8, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Ramming it down corporations throats will only yield less employment at the corporation and lower standard of living in the country. Short and simple...people will go invest someplace else.
.
The only reason the stock market is as high as it is now is there is nothing else worth investing in. Gold and Silver have stopped going up. Bank CDs are junk. Not going as fast as inflation so its just like losing money.
There may be something to that. But in my opinion, monopoly money has the most influence in the market. Then we have to consider all the companies that are multi-national. They too are in our stock market. So their operations outside of the US may be booming, but not much activity here.

What I've been reading is that the stock market is doing the exact same thing our housing market was doing before it crashed. A lot of people making money, and thinking it would never end. It's an oversold market right now.

It's like what Kenny Rodgers wrote in a song called The Gambler many years ago: You have to know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, know when to run.
Evil in Office

Logan, OH

#19003 Jun 8, 2013
We want a Governor who does not cover up the crimes of the government officials. A Governor who does not APPLUAD the MURDER of our MOTHERS and ABUSE of our FATHERS. But he does......

I can guarantee you KASICH does not care about MURDER or ABUSE of the ELDERLY.

A governor who honors the OATH they took to UPHOLD and SUPPORT the Constitution and Statutes.

Kasich will protect his peers NOT the people.

From one who can prove what they are saying.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19004 Jun 8, 2013
Go on and vote in another strickland and say buh bye to another 5000 factories from ohio.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#19005 Jun 8, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Ramming it down corporations throats will only yield less employment at the corporation and lower standard of living in the country. Short and simple...people will go invest someplace else.
.
The only reason the stock market is as high as it is now is there is nothing else worth investing in. Gold and Silver have stopped going up. Bank CDs are junk. Not going as fast as inflation so its just like losing money.
.
The US tax revenue generated is only made up of 12% corporate tax and its already the highest in the world. Time for a differant approach. Set it at zero and recoup the revenue through a million or more new high paying jobs and GDP sold!
that is the problem now the Federal Government is still wanting the corporations that are left here in the US to fund the entitlement programs just like Social Security which the Federal Government wants to raise the Social Security tax to keep the Ponzi Scheme going because by law Social Security was never suppose to be no more than 2%(1% employer & 1% employee) and the Federal government has kept raising the Social Security Tax which I don't blame corporations for offshoring when the Federal Government lied beside corporations that are still here in the US are being forced to contribute and pay for people to set at home in these expanded entitlement programs which most are funded by Social Security(Great Society).
Pops

Newport, KY

#19006 Jun 8, 2013
Evil in Office wrote:
We want a Governor who does not cover up the crimes of the government officials. A Governor who does not APPLUAD the MURDER of our MOTHERS and ABUSE of our FATHERS. But he does......
I can guarantee you KASICH does not care about MURDER or ABUSE of the ELDERLY.
A governor who honors the OATH they took to UPHOLD and SUPPORT the Constitution and Statutes.
Kasich will protect his peers NOT the people.
From one who can prove what they are saying.
I am not arguing but need to ask, do you hold the president to the same standards/expectations that you espouse for the gov?
why

Kenton, OH

#19007 Jun 9, 2013
I notice that no matter which city you go to there are several "Who do you support" questions. They are all very local specific.... I wonder who is doing that and why?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19008 Jun 9, 2013
Evil in Office wrote:
We want a Governor who does not cover up the crimes of the government officials. A Governor who does not APPLUAD the MURDER of our MOTHERS and ABUSE of our FATHERS. But he does......
I can guarantee you KASICH does not care about MURDER or ABUSE of the ELDERLY.
A governor who honors the OATH they took to UPHOLD and SUPPORT the Constitution and Statutes.
Kasich will protect his peers NOT the people.
From one who can prove what they are saying.
You troll. This is the second time you've posted this nonsense and nobody knows WTF you're talking about including me. You're worse than Loren.

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