Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#17008 Dec 31, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
How can one person be so wrong 100% of the time? You would think he would be right once in awhile simply by accident.
I wonder about this and you, with each post of yours I read.

Tell me again about the deal Obama made today.

or tell me why he had to steal national airwaves to tell us what we already knew.

Obama is over his head with his job; and he failed yet again.
Duke for Mayor

United States

#17009 Dec 31, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't think he will get something from NBC?
I suppose anything's possible there. Apparently he filed defamation and IIED claims three weeks ago.

The problem with the defamation claim is truth is an absolute defense, and he may have a few of those pesky skeletons floating around.

With either claim he has to prove actual damages, and that may not be a simple task.

I'm guessing the purpose of filing the suit at this particular point in time is primarily to influence the jury pool in the criminal matter and create reasonable doubt. He gets two bites at the apple this way, because much of the evidence surrounding any hate crime charges (if he was charged with any, I really haven't followed it) will be the same in the civil suit.

woof
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#17010 Dec 31, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose anything's possible there. Apparently he filed defamation and IIED claims three weeks ago.
The problem with the defamation claim is truth is an absolute defense, and he may have a few of those pesky skeletons floating around.
With either claim he has to prove actual damages, and that may not be a simple task.
I'm guessing the purpose of filing the suit at this particular point in time is primarily to influence the jury pool in the criminal matter and create reasonable doubt. He gets two bites at the apple this way, because much of the evidence surrounding any hate crime charges (if he was charged with any, I really haven't followed it) will be the same in the civil suit.
woof
I think that the tape was edited for a specific reason, and NBC "claimed" they fired the person responsible, but refused to say who that person was. What I would like to know is if they really fired anybody, and perhaps it was a company decision to edit the tape that way. In any case, it did make Zim look like a racist, and given the circumstance, I would think it's very damaging.

Anyway, off to a party, so Happy New Year and to everybody in the forum. ;-D
Pops

United States

#17011 Dec 31, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. Since those that built this nation owned slaves, I suppose we should be pro-slavery too lest we be spoiled children.
Talk about skewing the argument if not just getting off of it. Give us a break from the drama & exaggerations. The percentage of slave owners was single digits, even some Free Blacks owned slaves. Then PLEASE do NOT forget the Underground Railroad which was operated by Free Whites! Slavery was also legal in the UK, Spain & a tremendous number of other countries. PLUS, the 'slaves' were sold by other African countries, tribes, & clans while those same African countries, tribes & clans had slaves themselves Besides the Islamic countries many of which still do have slaves.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#17012 Dec 31, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
had you ever had a job in the corporate world..........
that is how emails are typed.
bullet points.
easy to read for those whom are busy. Some receive hundreds of emails daily, so if you want your email read, then you follow protocol.
see....now you aren't as stupid as you were prior to reading this informative email.
That's how emails are written in kindergarten.
Pops

United States

#17013 Dec 31, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Che Che is correct that many of these programs are not the invention of DumBama. What he fails to recognize is that DumBama expanded these programs by including more people; expanding the minimum requirements. When you expand those requirements, you will have more people on the dole.
One of the first things DumBama did taking office was to increase the sales tax on cigarettes--you know, those making over $250,000 per year. But the program he used those funds for was started by the Republicans. He used that additional money to expand the minimum requirements including children up to the age of 26. That's not what the program was designed for. Same holds true of Obama phones, food stamps, welfare, and various other programs like SS disability. All programs not of his creation, but a political opportunity to expand the amount of government dependents.
Don't forget the racist act of creating a tax on tanning beds too. Then there's the fact that $250,000 buys very little in NY, LA, Dallas, Miami, Philly, Chicago etc etc compared to Mobile Alabama, Hartford, Bismark etc etc. The figure is too low & too arbitrary.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#17014 Dec 31, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose anything's possible there. Apparently he filed defamation and IIED claims three weeks ago.
The problem with the defamation claim is truth is an absolute defense, and he may have a few of those pesky skeletons floating around.
With either claim he has to prove actual damages, and that may not be a simple task.
I'm guessing the purpose of filing the suit at this particular point in time is primarily to influence the jury pool in the criminal matter and create reasonable doubt. He gets two bites at the apple this way, because much of the evidence surrounding any hate crime charges (if he was charged with any, I really haven't followed it) will be the same in the civil suit.
woof
He also probably had statute of limitations issues.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#17015 Dec 31, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Talk about skewing the argument if not just getting off of it. Give us a break from the drama & exaggerations. The percentage of slave owners was single digits, even some Free Blacks owned slaves. Then PLEASE do NOT forget the Underground Railroad which was operated by Free Whites! Slavery was also legal in the UK, Spain & a tremendous number of other countries. PLUS, the 'slaves' were sold by other African countries, tribes, & clans while those same African countries, tribes & clans had slaves themselves Besides the Islamic countries many of which still do have slaves.
Wow. Rationalize much?
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#17016 Dec 31, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Don't forget the racist act of creating a tax on tanning beds too. Then there's the fact that $250,000 buys very little in NY, LA, Dallas, Miami, Philly, Chicago etc etc compared to Mobile Alabama, Hartford, Bismark etc etc. The figure is too low & too arbitrary.
This should be good.

1) How is a tax on tanning beds racist?

2) How many people do you know that individually make $250K/year?
Pops

United States

#17017 Dec 31, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
I missed the part where he said the government was going to shut down for the next four years. Was that in there?
It was hidden by his transparency!
Pops

United States

#17018 Dec 31, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. Rationalize much?
Much More than you
Pops

United States

#17019 Dec 31, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
This should be good.
1) How is a tax on tanning beds racist?
2) How many people do you know that individually make $250K/year?
1)Ever see an African use a tanning bed?
2) How many people that YOU or I know that make $250K has absolutely no relevance & for you to bring it up is just a red herring.
3) Why not ask how many people that YOU or I know that live in Dallas, LA, NY or Mobile? Same as #2, "NO relevance."
Pops

United States

#17020 Dec 31, 2012
To: Che & Duke. A sincere question here expecting a serious answer. What is the differences between Libs & Conserv's as you see it?
Duke for Mayor

United States

#17021 Dec 31, 2012
Pops wrote:
To: Che & Duke. A sincere question here expecting a serious answer. What is the differences between Libs & Conserv's as you see it?
Degrees of and ability to feel empathy.

woof
Pops

United States

#17022 Dec 31, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Degrees of and ability to feel empathy.
woof
Too simple of an answer. Cop out. Get specific pls
Duke for Mayor

United States

#17023 Dec 31, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Too simple of an answer. Cop out. Get specific pls
You asked Pops. I answered.

I don't really engage in the "liberal"/"cons ervative" labeling game all that much.

That may be why you don't like my answer.

I find that people usually have varying opinions on different issues, and that often, they say one thing in public and do another in private (i.e. espousing an anti-abortion/pro family political position while encouraging your lover to get an abortion, all while being a married, elected official).

So I just don't think the label game is all that important.

Empathy though, I think is typically a pretty good gauge.

woof

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#17024 Dec 31, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
You asked Pops. I answered.
I don't really engage in the "liberal"/"cons ervative" labeling game all that much.
That may be why you don't like my answer.
I find that people usually have varying opinions on different issues, and that often, they say one thing in public and do another in private (i.e. espousing an anti-abortion/pro family political position while encouraging your lover to get an abortion, all while being a married, elected official).
So I just don't think the label game is all that important.
Empathy though, I think is typically a pretty good gauge.
woof
just depends too what part of the Country you are from too because I find people that call themselves and consider themselves a modern Conservative in different parts of the country I think they are more inline as a modern Liberal or vise versa. When I go to different metro areas in the US, I am always prepared for a culture shock especially when you start talking politics which is why I can see why things are so messed up in Washington DC.
Ohmygosh

Ardsley, NY

#17025 Dec 31, 2012
Wow
victor

Napoleon, OH

#17026 Jan 1, 2013
Pops wrote:
To: Che & Duke. A sincere question here expecting a serious answer. What is the differences between Libs & Conserv's as you see it?
It seems to me that the true purpose

of Democrats and Republicans is chaos.

These are two opposing teams that create an

environment of confusion - so some lying [email protected]@ss

can come along and be the "hero", decieve the people.

I used to believe (many years ago in my youth) that

republicans were interested in balancing the budget-

what a joke. ha
victor

Napoleon, OH

#17027 Jan 1, 2013
Republicans also seem to support the interest of the ulra rich-going way overboard in that reguard.

While the Democrats seem to support the needy-welfareand entitlement program - they also go way overboard, to the very extreme.

And the real goal here is to never compromise - continue the environment where

the ultra rich continue stealing oportunity from the poor and middle class

so the poor and middle class need help to pay for basic nessesities and need government programs

that are no longer supported by the ultra rich.

The ultra rich can create a separate environment for themselves-like private schools

while the poor and middle class do without.

But, the poor and middle class will win - because we will be placed in an environment where we need to be innovative - while the ultra rich will cease all inovations as they are feeling pampered in their environment.

their minds will not be sharpened-they will become complacent

and then they will need someone else to come along to help them...

I suppose that is why they preferred becoming the king or the queen - to force the innovative ones to be their slaves. That won't last forever.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Cleveland Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Help 27 min Needsome 7
News The 25 Most Dangerous Cities in the U.S. Are Mo... (Nov '10) Sun WPWW 20,933
Going to Myrtle beach? Sun Speed limit 70 1
News The Enduring Mystery Of Beverly Jarosz (Feb '08) Sun ghhs 1,144
News Coffee Quiz Fox 8 News In The Morning Scott Sabol (Jun '10) Sat John Fiore 25
Review: Allen Studios (Aug '08) Mar 20 Sunny94 49
allah Mar 17 oodoo 1

Cleveland Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Cleveland Mortgages