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#16068 Dec 19, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>I started teaching my son when he was 12.
As did the school shooters Mother. But she is dead as is the shooter.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#16069 Dec 19, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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XX, there is an assumed risk when people hunt. There is an assumed risk when we get in a car, bus, plane, truck. We don't expect anything to happen, but we know it is a possibility.
There is not an assumed risk when we send kids to school or go to the movies. We may expect that our kids will fall off the slide or the swings, or fall down on the playground at recess, but we never expect them to be gunned down at school at 6 or 7 years old.
Another poster on another thread suggested that maybe gun owners should have their Semi Automatics and Clips of more than 12 Rounds locked away at Shooting ranges. Come shoot them when they wish. Gun owners expense Not a bad idea. It would likely be the Honor System, like our Taxes, so there would be cheats. Electronic chips/tracking systems also an option. First thing that should be done, regardless of what goes down with Gun limitations is a lock system at schools, like they have at Malls. When someone reports a lost child all the doors to Exterior are locked automatically. Cameras and Metal Detectors prior to the doors could help at schools.
Better than having kids in an armed camp and calling it school.
Tell your friend in the other blog that firing ranges are not like gyms. You don't have lockers or storage spaces for your personal belongings.

Most of the guns in America today are semi-automatics. So what you're suggesting is that innocent civilians go out with a revolver and try to defend themselves against criminals with semi-automatic weapons. Good luck with that one. You might as well make all guns illegal and to hell with the Constitution.

So we install "lock systems" in the schools. That way, if a shooter breaks in, we can make it more difficult for the police to enter the school. Great idea! The school in Conn. did have locked doors. The clown shot the locks out to enter the building.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#16070 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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And my contribution to the discussion is that anecdote and Google searches are a completely unscientific approach at trying to answer that question and are essentially worthless. She is the only person who has offered an answer based on scientific method.
What scientific method? To just print numbers and no explanation behind them? I don't call that scientific.

It kind of reminds me of the race debate with narcotics. They just print sentences and try to relate it to race rather than circumstance. No information about past criminal records. No data to say how the defendants conducted themselves. No data on the circumstances regarding the arrest. No data on how remorseful the defendant was. Just that white coke users get less time than black crack users. End of story.
Pops

United States

#16071 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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My posts was in direct response to another's post. Learn to read in context. Christ.
Same response Che. My reply was to YOUR post!! I have occasionally agreed with your posts but when you are wrong you are just like the true blue Lib, blame someone else.
It is impossible for you to say; oops, I miss-stated, that is not what I meant, my info was in error or whatever.In other words, YOU pass the buck. Typical Obama, Pill-osi type of Lib.
It seems equally true that YOU deem yourself infallible!! Incapable of typo's, misinformation, personal bias, miscommunication & just plain 'to error is human'.
At times you argue the inarguable. Other times you have a valid point. This is NOT one of those occasions.
WE are all possible of human error but YOU can NOT admit that of yourself. So just go on your merry infallible, la-la land way & prohibit personal mental growth.
WE know you for who & what YOU are.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16072 Dec 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Tell your friend in the other blog that firing ranges are not like gyms. You don't have lockers or storage spaces for your personal belongings.
Most of the guns in America today are semi-automatics. So what you're suggesting is that innocent civilians go out with a revolver and try to defend themselves against criminals with semi-automatic weapons. Good luck with that one. You might as well make all guns illegal and to hell with the Constitution.
So we install "lock systems" in the schools. That way, if a shooter breaks in, we can make it more difficult for the police to enter the school. Great idea! The school in Conn. did have locked doors. The clown shot the locks out to enter the building.
Or we could read ALL of the words of the 2nd amendment and realize that it is no longer 1789 and we really don't need armed citizens in order to maintain a well regulated militia and just repeal that sucker. We can throw Three in there as well. Just as relevant.

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#16073 Dec 19, 2012
Ohh Shoot: Gun enthusiast unintentionally shoots himself in ... ohhshoot.blogspot.com/2012/10/gun-enthusiast-...

Oct 17, 2012 ... Gun enthusiast unintentionally shoots himself in the head and dies ... Police said that alcohol was involved in the incident but don't yet know to what extent.... Some might refer to these as accidental shootings, but accident is ...

Soldier 'accidentally kills his hiccupping friend after ... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208530/Sold... ...

Sep 25, 2012 ... In a tragic accident fueled by alcohol and Sunday night football,... Soldier ' accidentally kills his friend after putting gun to his head to scare away his hiccups'... Pictured: Neighbours said Peter Lanza, centre left, and his new wife, Shelley ... As a shooting sports enthusiast I have always repeated the old ...

TEACHERS ARE KILLERS TOO!!!

carlin.news stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/activity/h/humor/Spe...

Police say a severely disturbed geography teacher has shot six people who did not ... A turnpike toll-collector has been arrested for pouring burning gasoline on people's ... claiming that a bowl of alphabet soup spelled out obscene messages to his wife.... He claims he was just cleaning his gun when it suddenly went off.

Connecticut man kills suspected burglar, then learns - NBC News usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/28/14134818-... ...

Sep 28, 2012 ... A Connecticut man shoots and kills his teenage son after mistaking him ... and he grabbed a gun and went outside to investigate, police said.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16074 Dec 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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What scientific method? To just print numbers and no explanation behind them? I don't call that scientific.
It kind of reminds me of the race debate with narcotics. They just print sentences and try to relate it to race rather than circumstance. No information about past criminal records. No data to say how the defendants conducted themselves. No data on the circumstances regarding the arrest. No data on how remorseful the defendant was. Just that white coke users get less time than black crack users. End of story.
There were numbers behind them. She offered to get them for you. What she was able to link to was called an abstract. An abstract is a brief explanation of the study and its results. The numbers and explanation you desire is contained in the complete report the abstract summarizes.

The disparity in crack versus powder cocaine sentences had nothing to do with priors or anything else. It was simply that the statutes punished possession or sale of the same weight of crack much more severely than the possession or sale of the same weight of powder.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16075 Dec 19, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Same response Che. My reply was to YOUR post!! I have occasionally agreed with your posts but when you are wrong you are just like the true blue Lib, blame someone else.
It is impossible for you to say; oops, I miss-stated, that is not what I meant, my info was in error or whatever.In other words, YOU pass the buck. Typical Obama, Pill-osi type of Lib.
It seems equally true that YOU deem yourself infallible!! Incapable of typo's, misinformation, personal bias, miscommunication & just plain 'to error is human'.
At times you argue the inarguable. Other times you have a valid point. This is NOT one of those occasions.
WE are all possible of human error but YOU can NOT admit that of yourself. So just go on your merry infallible, la-la land way & prohibit personal mental growth.
WE know you for who & what YOU are.
Ok then. Explain, in context, the original poster's comment that I responded to, my response, and your response to me and show where I was mistaken.

Since: Feb 12

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#16076 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Or we could read ALL of the words of the 2nd amendment and realize that it is no longer 1789 and we really don't need armed citizens in order to maintain a well regulated militia and just repeal that sucker. We can throw Three in there as well. Just as relevant.
I agree, but we both know we aren't goin' there. There have actually been gun nuts on TV Interviews past couple of days admitting that they want and need their assault weapons to use against the Government.

Pro-weapons group says 'gun control supporters have ...-... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249769/Gun-... ...

2 days ago ... Gun Owners of America executive director Larry Pratt said directly after ... that it was necessary to be 'prepared' and 'control the government.'...
A Gun Rights Fanatic and Gun Control Advocate Meet in the ... www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/12/david-corn-g... ...

1 day ago ... Gun Owners of America's executive director Larry Pratt on MSNBC's "Hardball" ... With a sneer, Pratt said, "You've noticed that, too?... He also would tell Chris Matthews that "we have guns in order to control the government.... jousts with gun rights advocate Richard Feldman over the need for gun control.
Larry Pratt on guns in America - Piers Morgan - CNN.com piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/18/larry-pr... ...

23 hours ago ... Pratt says he's deeply disturbed by the anti-gun supporters..... Anyone complaining about gun control and not complaining about .... Tell me where in any of the states is it required at this time the citizens need to guard the state's security?.... criminals, and to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#16077 Dec 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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That's called a gun accident and doesn't support your claim that those who use a gun are likely to make matters worse on themselves ending up with them getting shot instead.
Kinda reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with the proctologist whose license plates get misdirected to Kramer.

"One in a million chance Doc. One in a million."

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#16078 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Oh. I didn't understand the terminology. When a homeowner pulls a gun on an intruder and "wins" the confrontation, that is a gun success story. When a home owner pulls a gun on who he thinks is an intruder and shoots someone in his own family, that's just an unfortunate incident. I see. I bet that gun made that granddaughter shot in the chest feel much safer in her home.
One o those "accidentally on purpose" thingys, where ya ask for a do-over.

woof

Since: Feb 12

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#16079 Dec 19, 2012
There is no end to the idiocy. Are you seeing this Ray? Not that I think it will matter.

Man accidentally shoots self at Georgia gun show - CBS News www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57371907/man-acc... ...

Feb 6, 2012 ... Man accidentally shoots self at Georgia gun show ... Savannah-Chatham police spokesman Julian Miller says Lake bought the pistol at the gun ...
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Feb 6, 2012 ... Georgia Man Accidentally Shoots Himself at Savannah Gun Show | Charles Lake .... There is NO LAW that says you can't do that. Next- I would ...
Police: Man accidentally shoots self at Georgia gun show | Fox ... www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/06/police-man-acci... ...

Feb 6, 2012 ... Police: Man accidentally shoots self at Georgia gun show ... Savannah-Chatham police spokesman Julian Miller says Lake bought the pistol at ...

Ga. sheriff's deputy accidentally shoots himself |... www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/nov/03/ga-sh... ...

Nov 3, 2012 ... Ga. sheriff's deputy accidentally shoots himself ... Man shot during search sues deputy, City of Chattanooga, and Hamilton County ... Flintstone, Ga., woman who was shot charged with stealing a car, two guns and pain ... Probe reveals claims of unnecessary therapies at Cleveland-based Life Care Centers ...
Bonney Lake man accidentally shoots self at Packwood firing ... article.wn.com/view/2012/09/06/Bonney_Lake_ma... ...

Sep 6, 2012 ... Bonney Lake man accidentally shoots self at Packwood firing range .... The New York Fire Department says their conditions range from minor injuries to not urgent .... a guy who attempted to mount a horse a different way, a young lady who attempted to roll down ..... Protests over prison abuse rocks Georgia ...

Since: Feb 12

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#16080 Dec 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Tell your friend in the other blog that firing ranges are not like gyms. You don't have lockers or storage spaces for your personal belongings.
Most of the guns in America today are semi-automatics. So what you're suggesting is that innocent civilians go out with a revolver and try to defend themselves against criminals with semi-automatic weapons. Good luck with that one. You might as well make all guns illegal and to hell with the Constitution.
So we install "lock systems" in the schools. That way, if a shooter breaks in, we can make it more difficult for the police to enter the school. Great idea! The school in Conn. did have locked doors. The clown shot the locks out to enter the building.
Wow I read he entered through a window. Are you not aware of bullet proof glass and doors.
I am not talking about your 9MM with a 12 Rd clip. We are talking extended Magazines and Drums that hold 100 Rounds. Assault Rifles, made for killing people. You know, like the ones REAGAN wanted BANNED. Almighty Ronald Reagan.
Apparently you can't see that Shooting ranges can be modified. Big surprise. I have been there before. Of course they are not ready now. I can tell you don't want to be away from your beloved weapons.
Pops

United States

#16081 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Ok then. Explain, in context, the original poster's comment that I responded to, my response, and your response to me and show where I was mistaken.
I try to NOT be colorful in my posts so in that theme please allow me to get away with, "YOU are one convaluted, weak thinking, narrow minded, non-comprehensive individual. YOU read what has been posted & rethink it.
This is another example of you liberal thinking,(if thinking is applicable) manure talking, superficial, weak minded people that are passing the blame/responsibility boneheads. Don't put this on me because your comprehension is in negative numbers. YOU are the PUTZ.
I won't go on the defensive because you don't understand.
In fact, YOU are proving my point with this post. PUTZ.
Pops

United States

#16082 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Or we could read ALL of the words of the 2nd amendment and realize that it is no longer 1789 and we really don't need armed citizens in order to maintain a well regulated militia and just repeal that sucker. We can throw Three in there as well. Just as relevant.
What do you think is the primary reason that the Founders wrote the 27 words of the 2nd amendment? Letters/writings from Jefferson, Madison, Franklin & others clearly explain that it was/is to protect the citizenry from an oppressive government like that of King George III. One could call that amendment the 4th level of government.
It leaves open & possible a NEW revolution just like the revolution that lead to the writing of the constitution & Bill of Rights. The Right of the citizens to affect change when the Ruling factions go too far.
That is why the 2nd amendment has only 27 words. It is NOT incumburd with ambiquitious words. It is Black & White, plain & simple if you would.
That is why 'progressives/liberals' fear the right of the people to bear arms.
The PEOPLE are a danger to all of those that want to venture outside of the Constitution.
Remember, the Constitution & Bill of Rights LIMIT the government but NOT the PEOPLE except for treason!!!And what is treason depends on who is the victor as our founders proved to King George
It maintains that the PEOPLE ARE the Government, NOT the beauracrats.
The PEOPLE ARE the Militia!! Just as they were in 1776 or 1789 or they are in 2012 & Beyond.
What part of the English language do you not understand? PUTZ

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

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#16084 Dec 20, 2012
Huh, I'm pretty wary of predicted trends so I'm not wholly into the side of the chart in the future, but I wasn't aware that firearms linked deaths were going up. I suppose their rate of accidental death and use in suicides keep going up as ownership goes up, even as the overall crime rate continues to sink?

They've apparently been on an uptrend for the past 10 years.

Super exciting to see traffic fatalities moving down, though!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-19/amer...
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16085 Dec 20, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I try to NOT be colorful in my posts so in that theme please allow me to get away with, "YOU are one convaluted, weak thinking, narrow minded, non-comprehensive individual. YOU read what has been posted & rethink it.
This is another example of you liberal thinking,(if thinking is applicable) manure talking, superficial, weak minded people that are passing the blame/responsibility boneheads. Don't put this on me because your comprehension is in negative numbers. YOU are the PUTZ.
I won't go on the defensive because you don't understand.
In fact, YOU are proving my point with this post. PUTZ.
I didn't think you were capable of doing it, Pops. I will do it for you. Fred was blaming Australia's lack of similar mass assaults with firearms on what he called Australia's homogeneous society. When others pointed out to him that he was wrong, he changed his definition to say that it was because Australia didn't have the same number of "poor, uneducated,third worlders" as the US has. Based on that, I suggested to him he check to see how many "poor, uneducated, third worlders" had recently shot up a mall or a school. You then, until that time not a part of the dialogue, come with this,
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Can't answer that.'3rd worlders' are largely illiterate & largely have censorship. But many '3rd worlders' do have easy access to all kinds of weapons.
which is totally non-responsive to the discussion about the comparison of mass violence with guns between Australia and the US. If you think that your post somehow does further that conversation, I welcome your explanation. Frankly, I think you wrote it in your neverending quest to somehow get the better of me and didn't understand a word of the ongoing conversation.

So there is your explanation. Now call me a bunch of names and do exactly what you accuse me of doing. Classic wingnut.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16086 Dec 20, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>What do you think is the primary reason that the Founders wrote the 27 words of the 2nd amendment? Letters/writings from Jefferson, Madison, Franklin & others clearly explain that it was/is to protect the citizenry from an oppressive government like that of King George III. One could call that amendment the 4th level of government.
It leaves open & possible a NEW revolution just like the revolution that lead to the writing of the constitution & Bill of Rights. The Right of the citizens to affect change when the Ruling factions go too far.
That is why the 2nd amendment has only 27 words. It is NOT incumburd with ambiquitious words. It is Black & White, plain & simple if you would.
That is why 'progressives/liberals' fear the right of the people to bear arms.
The PEOPLE are a danger to all of those that want to venture outside of the Constitution.
Remember, the Constitution & Bill of Rights LIMIT the government but NOT the PEOPLE except for treason!!!And what is treason depends on who is the victor as our founders proved to King George
It maintains that the PEOPLE ARE the Government, NOT the beauracrats.
The PEOPLE ARE the Militia!! Just as they were in 1776 or 1789 or they are in 2012 & Beyond.
What part of the English language do you not understand? PUTZ
Really? When was the last time you grabbed your .9mm and drilled on the public square with your neighbors?
Reality speaks

Columbus, OH

#16087 Dec 20, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Just so you will now tell us how you can't do scientific research through a Google search, do one on "shot with own gun."
perform diligence also on:

killed with own car, or motorcycle, or bicycle
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16088 Dec 20, 2012
Reality speaks wrote:
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perform diligence also on:
killed with own car, or motorcycle, or bicycle
Ok. Right after you show me the article about the last guy that killed 20 school kids with his bike.

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