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#15147 Dec 9, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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What did they do in 04, XX? Filed Bankruptcy. Now 8 Years later, PING.
Interesting. They don't want to be held to the Contract, so they are pulling a Bain.
Hostess Bankruptcy: Company Files For Bankruptcy Just Two ... www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/hostess-ban...

MAE ANDERSON and MICHELLE CHAPMAN 01/11/12 04:33 PM ET .... Hostess Reenters Bankruptcy Less Than Three Years After ... Hostess Brands, Maker of ...
Excerpt From Above Link.

This company has tremendous potential if we can remove the barriers to success," Driscoll said.

The Teamsters Union, which represents about 7,500 of Hostess' delivery drivers and merchandisers, said in a statement on Wednesday that it is also committed to working toward a solution.

The company's filing comes nearly three years after its predecessor emerged from bankruptcy proceedings. That company, called Interstate Bakeries and based in Kansas City, Mo., filed for bankruptcy protection in 2004 and changed its name to Hostess Brands after it emerged in 2009.

Hostess said Wednesday that its previous efforts to change, including the prior Chapter 11, were insufficient. Under its most recent bankruptcy filing, it is looking to restructure into a "strong, competitive" company.

In its filing with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York, Hostess listed about $860 million in debt. The company's biggest unsecured creditor is the Bakery & Confectionary Union & Industry International Pension Fund, which it owes about $944.2 million.

In the filing, Hostess also listed its estimated assets between $500 million and $1 billion and its estimated liabilities at more than $1 billion.

The Irving, Texas-based company said that it will be able to maintain routine operations thanks to a $75 million financing commitment from a group of lenders led by Silver Point Capital LP.

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#15148 Dec 9, 2012
Vulture capitalism not unions killed Twinkies - Salon.com www.salon.com/2012/11/20/vulture_capitalism_n...

Nov 20, 2012 ... Vulture capitalism not unions killed Twinkies ... the debt was owned by hedge funds Silver Point Capital and Monarch Alternative Capital,...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15149 Dec 10, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
Vulture capitalism not unions killed Twinkies - Salon.com www.salon.com/2012/11/20/vulture_capitalism_n...
Nov 20, 2012 ... Vulture capitalism not unions killed Twinkies ... the debt was owned by hedge funds Silver Point Capital and Monarch Alternative Capital,...
ha ha

robots will perform these unskilled functions moving forward; and scanners replace cashiers.

Michigan as early as next Monday may become a right to work state.

as you cheer your election win, in reality you lose.

over the cliff we all will go; and no debt ceiling raise.

taxes will be raised on everyone; and the govt shutdown to any new spending.

your trash talk is quite humorous.

you think you won; but expect 4 years more of the same with a forced balanced budget, which will eliminate the possibility of Obamacare being implemented.

IQ?....well it would appear those dummies you want to scream about just played you like a drum.

Unions will be destroyed by Michigan's right to work state, Obamacare won't be implemented; and that 47% that pays zero federal income tax will be very soon will be. A forced balanced budget has just been imposed for the next 4 years.

you go ahead and blame the GOP all you want; but remember 49% of this nation is cheering.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#15150 Dec 10, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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ha ha
robots will perform these unskilled functions moving forward; and scanners replace cashiers.
Michigan as early as next Monday may become a right to work state.
as you cheer your election win, in reality you lose.
over the cliff we all will go; and no debt ceiling raise.
taxes will be raised on everyone; and the govt shutdown to any new spending.
your trash talk is quite humorous.
you think you won; but expect 4 years more of the same with a forced balanced budget, which will eliminate the possibility of Obamacare being implemented.
IQ?....well it would appear those dummies you want to scream about just played you like a drum.
Unions will be destroyed by Michigan's right to work state, Obamacare won't be implemented; and that 47% that pays zero federal income tax will be very soon will be. A forced balanced budget has just been imposed for the next 4 years.
you go ahead and blame the GOP all you want; but remember 49% of this nation is cheering.
Here we go again with your Nostradamus trip. Perhaps if we take into account your last predictions, it will explain why everyone thinks you are buck nutty. You lost, son. Nobody cares if you get over it. My prediction about you is that you'll be up in a clock tower with a deer rifle within a decade.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#15151 Dec 10, 2012
I forgot to mention the part where your evil plan will be thwarted by R2D2 and Robocop.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15152 Dec 10, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
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Here we go again with your Nostradamus trip. Perhaps if we take into account your last predictions, it will explain why everyone thinks you are buck nutty. You lost, son. Nobody cares if you get over it. My prediction about you is that you'll be up in a clock tower with a deer rifle within a decade.
in a decade I will be retired on the beach fishing everyday.

if social security is around, then 5 years after I retire I will be eligible to collect on what I paid in.

keep laughing......I will be at you.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15153 Dec 10, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
Wow, I must check the moon.
woof
why?

you howl at anything.

you going to howl going over the fiscal cliff, or govt shutdown due to debt ceiling being declared the REAL ceiling, or Michigan becoming a right to work state this month.

I am howling at the fact that the 47% who don't pay any federal income tax today will be in 2013; and that with a govt shutdown Obamacare will be impossible to implement.
free

Sidney, OH

#15154 Dec 10, 2012
The emperor has no clothes. Oblame-a has snookered the 47% plus the mystery 4% who stuffed the ballot box with ignorant voters.

They will howl when the wealthy withdraw their assets from the economy and all that's left are Liberal Dirty Democrat crumbs to fight over.

Take away the Republican targets and all you have left is a circular firing squad.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15155 Dec 10, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
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Here we go again with your Nostradamus trip. Perhaps if we take into account your last predictions, it will explain why everyone thinks you are buck nutty. You lost, son. Nobody cares if you get over it. My prediction about you is that you'll be up in a clock tower with a deer rifle within a decade.
what you should have said is how stupid you were to be left holding a bag of crap.

read the news dummy.

by next Monday there is an 80% chance of Michigan becoming a right to work state.

and that fiscal cliff thingy....hold on...you are going for a ride.

at least this ride you will pay for, unlike your last 8 years ride.

back to the Clinton era we go....balanced budget and all.

obamcare has ZERO chance of implementation when the govt is shut down.

you just keep claiming how great of a win you had, as the 49% who voted against your win actually do.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#15156 Dec 10, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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what you should have said is how stupid you were to be left holding a bag of crap.
read the news dummy.
by next Monday there is an 80% chance of Michigan becoming a right to work state.
and that fiscal cliff thingy....hold on...you are going for a ride.
at least this ride you will pay for, unlike your last 8 years ride.
back to the Clinton era we go....balanced budget and all.
obamcare has ZERO chance of implementation when the govt is shut down.
you just keep claiming how great of a win you had, as the 49% who voted against your win actually do.
I'm not claiming we won. We flat out whooped your @sses. It was on national television. As far as all of the other Revelations Madlibs you keep clucking about, it doesn't even put a ripple in my pond. See there are these things called facts, and the fact is you have been so wrong about everything else you have claimed, that we all view you like some kind of dancing dwarf in a jester's suit that we toss coins at and laugh. Now please wait by the door because Obama's robot army will be by soon to collect your guns and your Bibles. Aaaaah ha ha ha ha ha! Aaaaaah ha ha ha ha!
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#15157 Dec 10, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not claiming we won. We flat out whooped your @sses. It was on national television. As far as all of the other Revelations Madlibs you keep clucking about, it doesn't even put a ripple in my pond. See there are these things called facts, and the fact is you have been so wrong about everything else you have claimed, that we all view you like some kind of dancing dwarf in a jester's suit that we toss coins at and laugh. Now please wait by the door because Obama's robot army will be by soon to collect your guns and your Bibles. Aaaaah ha ha ha ha ha! Aaaaaah ha ha ha ha!
ROBOTS!
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15159 Dec 10, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
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I'm not claiming we won. We flat out whooped your @sses. It was on national television. As far as all of the other Revelations Madlibs you keep clucking about, it doesn't even put a ripple in my pond. See there are these things called facts, and the fact is you have been so wrong about everything else you have claimed, that we all view you like some kind of dancing dwarf in a jester's suit that we toss coins at and laugh. Now please wait by the door because Obama's robot army will be by soon to collect your guns and your Bibles. Aaaaah ha ha ha ha ha! Aaaaaah ha ha ha ha!
keep laughing moron

you are the joke

over the cliff we go
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15160 Dec 10, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
ROBOTS!
correct

and Michigan is becoming a right to work state; and that will kill unions dead in their tracks.

Obama will be in Detroit today to threaten the Governor to veto the bill; but a middle finger to Obama is expected.

just google the facts moron.

wonder why the news is not all over this like they are a waiter putting fat chicks on a receipt to recognize the table?

robots and scanners on the way, so employers can end the legal issues with Govt on jobs a 5 year old could do.

over the cliff we go; and Michigan ends union strong hold of 60 years in 2 weeks.

that great leadership from Obama to the Governor of Michigan will produce both of them flipping each other off.

Michigan wins, the country wins, the Obama zealots lose.

I am laughing; and 49% of the country is laughing.

replacing all those UAW jobs with people who want to work.

priceless
Che Reagan Christ

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#15161 Dec 10, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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correct
and Michigan is becoming a right to work state; and that will kill unions dead in their tracks.
Obama will be in Detroit today to threaten the Governor to veto the bill; but a middle finger to Obama is expected.
just google the facts moron.
wonder why the news is not all over this like they are a waiter putting fat chicks on a receipt to recognize the table?
robots and scanners on the way, so employers can end the legal issues with Govt on jobs a 5 year old could do.
over the cliff we go; and Michigan ends union strong hold of 60 years in 2 weeks.
that great leadership from Obama to the Governor of Michigan will produce both of them flipping each other off.
Michigan wins, the country wins, the Obama zealots lose.
I am laughing; and 49% of the country is laughing.
replacing all those UAW jobs with people who want to work.
priceless
Let's see. Unions were declared dead when Wisconsin passed its public collective bargaining bill. Unions were declared dead when SB 5 passed in Ohio. How did those predictions work out. All you idiots are doing is waking a sleeping giant.

But, because it is you predicting it, I will breathlessly wait for the death of unions right after the teabaggers violently overthrow Washington, Romney wins in a landslide, the impeachment trials begin and Texas becomes 5 states.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15162 Dec 10, 2012
Save Yourself wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not claiming we won. We flat out whooped your @sses. It was on national television. As far as all of the other Revelations Madlibs you keep clucking about, it doesn't even put a ripple in my pond. See there are these things called facts, and the fact is you have been so wrong about everything else you have claimed, that we all view you like some kind of dancing dwarf in a jester's suit that we toss coins at and laugh. Now please wait by the door because Obama's robot army will be by soon to collect your guns and your Bibles. Aaaaah ha ha ha ha ha! Aaaaaah ha ha ha ha!
hey Jester!

over the cliff we go; and the GOP Michigan Governor ends 60 year old union stranglehold that ruined his state.

PS: if you send out the Obama army to collect all the guns of America from citizens, then remember to tell Obama to stockpile lime; and order some D9 cats to cover those who try.

PSS: and while you dance around like a fool throwing coins laughing, the entire world is at this exact moment laughing at you.

PSSS: another fact....when the govt is shutdown for the next 4 years.....how will you survive?
free

Sidney, OH

#15163 Dec 10, 2012
Newspaper headline: Unions vow political payback for Michigan right-to-work law.

We are a country of laws ? Not a country of Unions.

Let all Unions migrate to a No Right to Work states and see how much industry they can attract to their new unionized state .... Take Illinois and the rest America knows what state to avoid, OHARE and all. Would you see business and industries leaving enmasse ?
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15164 Dec 10, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Let's see. Unions were declared dead when Wisconsin passed its public collective bargaining bill. Unions were declared dead when SB 5 passed in Ohio. How did those predictions work out. All you idiots are doing is waking a sleeping giant.
But, because it is you predicting it, I will breathlessly wait for the death of unions right after the teabaggers violently overthrow Washington, Romney wins in a landslide, the impeachment trials begin and Texas becomes 5 states.
keep laughing moron

watch tomorrows news when Governor of Michigan signs law making Michigan a right to work state.

yeah....you keep laughing.

you can get your wadsworth from your boyfriend.

sleeping giant is the problem....employers demand work for pay, not sleep for pay.

teabaggers will be laughing as we ride over the cliff understanding that the 47% who paid no income tax under the evil Bush plan now will. Obamacare is impossible to implement when govt is shutdown.

and the next 4 years will redefine the term lame duck, as just lame in Obama's case.

with your ignorant gods holding the majority in the senate and own the white house, the tea baggers are tea bagging you.

that is funny.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15165 Dec 10, 2012
free wrote:
Newspaper headline: Unions vow political payback for Michigan right-to-work law.
We are a country of laws ? Not a country of Unions.
Let all Unions migrate to a No Right to Work states and see how much industry they can attract to their new unionized state .... Take Illinois and the rest America knows what state to avoid, OHARE and all. Would you see business and industries leaving enmasse ?
the unions will be destroyed; and their vow is useless

by the time the next Presidential election occurs.....Govt will have been shut down for 4 years, a forced balanced budget imposed, tax increases for everyone, and the recession will impact only those who rely on govt.

quite funny actually
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15166 Dec 10, 2012
free wrote:
Newspaper headline: Unions vow political payback for Michigan right-to-work law.
We are a country of laws ? Not a country of Unions.
Let all Unions migrate to a No Right to Work states and see how much industry they can attract to their new unionized state .... Take Illinois and the rest America knows what state to avoid, OHARE and all. Would you see business and industries leaving enmasse ?
unions vow political payback?
how do they do that when they have been neutered?
no income?
and all the old union jobs were ended and replaced with people with ambition to succeed on their own merit?
sounds like lip service from a cleft lip.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#15167 Dec 10, 2012
over the cliff we go into the wild red yonder

tax increases across the board for all; but the 47% who pay nothing currently in income tax have the highest increase in all fairness to finally pay their fair share.

the debt ceiling is the ceiling; and no borrowing moving forward.

Michigan Governor makes Michigan a right to work state.

Balanced budget amendment forced to adhering to debt ceiling for next 4 years.

Obama's reelection has made him a radical tea bagger, or as always he is incapable of negotiating anything.

either way.....Mitt could never have all these magnificent changes implemented prior to his term starting like Obama has.

Obama is the best GOP candidate in Washington ever.

In one moth of re-election Obama's accomplishments are:

tax increases for everyone
balanced budget
neutering unions
impossible to implement Obamacare due to balanced budget and govt shutdown
and cut spending in half with his negotiation skill sets

problem with above is Obama demanded the opposite; and gave speeches to prove it.

wonder if Obama will ever learn words fix nothing; and action does.

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