Who do you support for Governor in Ohio in 2010?

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Save Yourself

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<quoted text> Too many are. They are too busy or lazy or both, to get past the sound bite & digest the core of the issues.
When you say Americans are lazy, are we talking like "food stamp" lazy or just hand me down success story bloated CEO lazy?
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xxxrayted wrote:
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I own a small company with 75 employees. I am considering moving my company overseas partly because of Obama Care. Now they want to increase my personal taxes as well. That does it. If they are going to take more from me, then I'm staying in the US.
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I have a thin hope on another position that would improve my pay from lower middle class to solidly middle class. My prospective employer has been advised to wait until Feb or March & clearly see the effects on his business from the pending B.S.
His company is one that does top the $250k threshold although he makes about 45-50K for himself. The bulk of his buyers are in Indonesia, Romania & Mexico along with a few others. With the international travel, alot of his gross income is eaten up but he'll still be taxed on money he doesn't really have. It would be no problem with NAFTA for all of us to learn Spanish & HIS production cost would go down. ALL LEGAL & jobs & revenue would be leaving too. Right along with the tractor trailer that would be needed to haul the equipment.
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Dec 6, 2012
 
Save Yourself wrote:
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Some of dumbest, most ineffective people I have ever met have been very wealthy. You have obviously confused greed for IQ.
I agree to a point, the intelligence may be in their accountants & CPA's.
The wealthiest person that I have personally known would tell you that he was under educated but that in the beginning, he worked harder, longer & cheaper than his competition & then hired smart people to grow his businesses. He was eventually worth 8 digits LIQUID, HIGH 8 digits gross & employed something like 170 people when business was slow, over 200 in his busy season.
I stand by my previous statement since I have also known near witless wealthy too. It is the people that they hire to 'work' their money that makes them wealthy & keeps them that way. They don't have to personally know everything.
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Save Yourself wrote:
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When you say Americans are lazy, are we talking like "food stamp" lazy or just hand me down success story bloated CEO lazy?
Good question. I mean thinking lazy. As in ones that read a headline but not the story, the title of a book but do not go past the chapter headings, metaphorically speaking.
Too lazy to educate/inform themselves.

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I own a small company with 75 employees. I am considering moving my company overseas partly because of Obama Care. Now they want to increase my personal taxes as well. That does it. If they are going to take more from me, then I'm staying in the US.
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Foxconn plans to expand manufacturing to U.S.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57557617/...
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I don't know. I have a job so I couldn't stay up all night watching the elections. I don't know what Fox said.
What I do know is that there is a difference between making a prediction and stating fact such as what Fox and Limbaugh do. See, if more people would go to Limbaugh and/or Fox, they would have learned that taxing people making over 250 K would only run the government for less than 9 days per year. I bet anything that MSNBC, CNN and others wouldn't mention that because it's fact. MSM doesn't like to present those facts because they are honest facts.
Instead, they leave people to believe that taxing people other than themselves will be the solution to our problems. There are no spending issues, just issues of who the government can rob to make more government dependents out of people. That's what you learn listening to Limbaugh or watching Bill O'.
Well, since you claim not to have been listening, let me tell you what they said. Fox and Rush said the polls were all wrong, that they were a fabrication by the liberal media, and that the facts were that Romney was winning by a landslide.

How did those "facts" work out?

Remember what W. said, "Fool me once. Shame on me. Fool me, won't get fooled again."
Che Reagan Christ

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Ah yes, the typical liberal one-way street.
Well, if DumBama will let everybody keep the tax rates they have now, the Republicans will sign it in a minute. If DumBama doesn't, then we know who is to blame for the other 98% of us who will see our tax increases.
One way street? What about "everybody agrees" don't you understand? Not everybody agrees with your scenario. That would be the difference, Rush.
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xxxrayted wrote:
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I own a small company with 75 employees. I am considering moving my company overseas partly because of Obama Care. Now they want to increase my personal taxes as well. That does it. If they are going to take more from me, then I'm staying in the US.
This message was brought to you by the fantasy world of liberals.
If you owned a small business with only 75 employees you couldn't afford to move it overseas. And if you did, no one would care.
Che Reagan Christ

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Dec 6, 2012
 
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> Let me break this down for you. You're NOT quite right. The repubs want the tax rate to stay the same for 100% Obama wants to exclude the top 2%, that's HIS condition.
Since you can't see that scenario, I guess that does NOT make you one of the reasonable ones on this issue.
It is guesstimated that the top 2% will be paying 80-85 billion more a year. Many are owners or heads of international companies. Do you think that most will leave their wealth open to such pillaging? Of course not. And that includes the Kennedys, Gates, Bush's, Soros, Clintons etc.
They will protect their money with trust funds & overseas investments. They are not stupid or they would not be wealthy. That is why doing away with or diminishing loop holes would be better than blatantly chasing their money away. It will do more good on shore than off shore.
Wrong again, Pops.
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Top Two Percent To GOP: Tax Us
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/05/top-...

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74 in December you say? If only science had a name for what you are seeing right in front of your ignorant eyes. Considering you are the modern version of a flat earther, I guess it doesn't matter what science says anyway. Tell us a story about a water walking Jewish zombie.
I live in GA and 74 in December isn't out of the ordinary, Jackass global warming moron.

Get on a space ship and go put out some solar flares if you don't like global warming. I happen to like warm globes myself.
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Dec 6, 2012
 
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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One way street? What about "everybody agrees" don't you understand? Not everybody agrees with your scenario. That would be the difference, Rush.
EVERYONE does NOT agree or there would NOT be this contention. That is plain & simple. What else do you NOT understand?
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Dec 6, 2012
 
Governor Kasich:

Governor Kasich has deep concerns about oil and gas companies hiring out-of-state nonunion workers, consumers, and taxpayers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life; producing Ohio’s oil and gas.

Governor Kasich supports Stockholders, corporations, farmers, businesses, outsourcer sweatshops, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organizations and Churches; defying USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And supports holding Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay property tax on state appraised value of their American Dream. Pay bank interest on purchase price of American Dream for 30 years. Pay interest on lottery winners winnings Legislators invest in school bonds, Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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#14805
Dec 6, 2012
 
Ojama won and now he doesn't give a rats behind. Who's going to fire his monkeyass ? He' got a free ride for four years, hired by a majority of ignorant voters. Hussein is a financial pipeline to offshore radicals.
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Dec 6, 2012
 
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Well, since you claim not to have been listening, let me tell you what they said. Fox and Rush said the polls were all wrong, that they were a fabrication by the liberal media, and that the facts were that Romney was winning by a landslide.
How did those "facts" work out?
Remember what W. said, "Fool me once. Shame on me. Fool me, won't get fooled again."
You still don't understand the difference between facts and speculation I see.
Speculation (done on both sides) predicted their candidate to win. Nobody knew for sure, just hopeful thinking. This goes on every presidential election.

Facts are that DumBama's tax policy won't solve one problem. Not one. That is not speculation. The fact is that DumBama only wants to please his wealth hating base for the future of the Democrat party. Polls show that he can.
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Dec 6, 2012
 
The military needs to remove monkeyass, forget treason trials.
xxxrayted

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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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One way street? What about "everybody agrees" don't you understand? Not everybody agrees with your scenario. That would be the difference, Rush.
I've said it many times before. If tax policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, the Paul's of your society have no objections.

Of course it's a one-way street because if DumBama is still hell bent on taxing people making 250K or more and Republicans don't agree, then everybody loses their tax rates. But MSM doesn't report it that way.

Should that transpire, the MSM will make sure nobody blames DumBama. They will blame the Republicans just like you do.

In my opinion, I think the Republicans should just give DumBama everything he wants. Tax increases, spending increases, debt ceiling increases, lower credit rating, more government dependents.... everything. That way when we hit another recession or possibly a depression, the Republicans can honestly say they had nothing to do with it. You reelected failure, so Republicans are giving you failure. Live with it.
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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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If you owned a small business with only 75 employees you couldn't afford to move it overseas. And if you did, no one would care.
Really? Then perhaps if you ever decide to get a job, do so in my field because I've seen it many times before. I've seen companies that small either move out of the state to southern states or out of the country altogether.

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Ah yes, the typical liberal one-way street.
Well, if DumBama will let everybody keep the tax rates they have now, the Republicans will sign it in a minute. If DumBama doesn't, then we know who is to blame for the other 98% of us who will see our tax increases.
Our tax increase will be rectified after the first of the year, yours included, but top two percent will not. Seems the way to go, since Republicans will not acknowledge just how badly they got their asses whooped.
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Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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Our tax increase will be rectified after the first of the year, yours included, but top two percent will not. Seems the way to go, since Republicans will not acknowledge just how badly they got their asses whooped.
No....... the Republican plan is for everybody to keep their tax breaks or nobody. If DumBama doesn't agree to it, then we all (including the wealthy) will see our taxes go up to pre-Bush levels.

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You still don't understand the difference between facts and speculation I see.
Speculation (done on both sides) predicted their candidate to win. Nobody knew for sure, just hopeful thinking. This goes on every presidential election.
Facts are that DumBama's tax policy won't solve one problem. Not one. That is not speculation. The fact is that DumBama only wants to please his wealth hating base for the future of the Democrat party. Polls show that he can.
Wasn't only speculation when Nate Silver had it right down to the number of Electoral Votes, Obama would win, just like he did in 08, but was called crazy and a witch by the WingNuts for more than a week before the election.
See, Math is important.

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